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  • #12766
    Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

    Originally posted by jsg View Post
    Madhav, bro its not exactly downgrade. I have used both and can say with confidence that the mineral AX5 is way better than the "SS" TVS Tru Oil. Maybe just my personal experience. Leave that apart. In any case what RTRLover said is bang on - you need to give time to break in your engine, the piston and its seals. For that you need denser oils, which is exactly why Mineral oils are to be used atleast till 5000kms. I agree, SS oils are usually better than Minerals in almost all aspects. But there's a time for each of it. You dont use a FS Oil at 1000km. Similarly.
    I've asked this and had it answered many times. Please explain the credibility of this information. A source or an article would help. Please. Seniors like pinaki and blackthorn said semi synthetic oils have additional stuff that fortify an engine. They say. There is no harm in using such an oil right away.

    Please do not get me wrong. I only want the best care for my bike. Thus I ask so many questions.

    Sent from my WT19i
    Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

    Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

    Break-in tension? Read this.

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    • #12767
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      • #12768
        @madhav766
        Hope this would be of some help
        Engine Running In- Comprehensive Details [What, Why & How] | Bike Chronicles of India

        P.S. I and a whole lot of others here in xBhp do not support Motoman technique for engine break-in.
        The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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        • #12769
          And to be honest, you gotta check any Engine Oil level no matter what Motul (4k), Castrol (3k) or Shell (2.5k-3k) claims, sometime due to some issue in engine or due to temperature & few other factors oil level drops.. So its better to check minimum 1k Kilometer without fail (Those who ride max) else check it in 15 days ...

          No mechanic will charge you if you just visit for Oil level Check, so its free & 1 min Job too...

          Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post
          As Shaby said, Shell Advance Ultra is a superb Full Synthetic engine oil. But, one has to wait at least till 7000kms before trying as it is a FS engine oil.

          P. S. This oil's level will drop a little faster so frequent checks and required top ups are a must. There should always be a spare bottle at your home (won't be that easy on the wallet for many). Cost in Trivandrum 780INR.
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          • #12770
            Yes, it's always safe to check the engine oil level on a regular basis no matter what oil is in use But with the Advance Ultra, one has to be more careful. This oil's level will drop much faster than any other oil especially if spirited riding is done often. Me along with Drifty Bro has experienced this.

            It would be much better if oil level is checked at home preferably on mornings. All the oil would be drained to the sump and an accurate reading can be taken. The owners manual clearly states how to check oil level. Just make sure the bike is in central stand for about 10 mins prior to checking. If one rides to a SVC/local garage and get the level checked soon after reaching there (IF that's the case), reading will be so very wrong

            P.S. As Traveller01 shared below, FS engine oils in general need way more attention than mineral/SS ones. I have experience with the Shell Ultra FS only. But, it's a superb oil at that, put aside the cost factor.
            Last edited by Rtrlover83; 12-13-2012, 08:19 PM. Reason: for bit more clarity and for adding post script.
            The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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            • #12771
              Yes, I had similiar incident of drop in oil level when using shell advance, even castrol power racing FS has the same problem. Creates a problem/worry during long rides.

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              • #12772
                hi guys,
                I have a question for you, I serviced my bike on last 27th Nov and completed approx 660km on ODO, Suggest me oil which can improve my bikes performance & reduce vibration problems. As i have read before lot of guys talking about shell petrol, Is really shell gives the smoother control for RTR..... If yes then i'll follow it

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                • #12773
                  Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                  Originally posted by Satishrajdev View Post
                  hi guys,
                  I have a question for you, I serviced my bike on last 27th Nov and completed approx 660km on ODO, Suggest me oil which can improve my bikes performance & reduce vibration problems. As i have read before lot of guys talking about shell petrol, Is really shell gives the smoother control for RTR..... If yes then i'll follow it

                  waiting
                  Well. Can't promise anything. But using the best will guarantee the best. for now stick to tvs oil. Later you may start experimenting with different oils.

                  Sent from my WT19i
                  Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                  Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                  Break-in tension? Read this.

                  Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                  • #12774
                    Or use Shell Ultra Advance SS 350rs...

                    BTW CLutch plate gone
                    Last edited by shahbaz63; 12-14-2012, 11:18 PM.
                    Pride & Prejudice: Ladakh Ride,

                    Ride To Raajmachi - Highway, Off Roading, Tent fire & Dhamaal

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                    • #12775
                      Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                      Originally posted by shahbaz63 View Post
                      Or use Shell Ultra Advance SS 350rs...

                      BTW CLutch plate gone
                      Thats what happens when you do 13000km in 5 months.

                      Sent from my WT19i
                      Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                      Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                      Break-in tension? Read this.

                      Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                      • #12776
                        Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                        Thats what happens when you do 13000km in 5 months.

                        Sent from my WT19i
                        Not true, I did same sort of riding on my previous RTR and there was no clutch problem even after 30k
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                        • #12777
                          Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                          Originally posted by rocker View Post
                          Not true, I did same sort of riding on my previous RTR and there was no clutch problem even after 30k
                          Really... Wow.. Then I have no way of explain what happened.

                          Sent from my WT19i
                          Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                          Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                          Break-in tension? Read this.

                          Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                          • #12778
                            Madhav - True That 5 month 13k on higher rpm it happens hahahah ! waise TVS Service Center's are pathethic .. will never ask any mumbaikar to buy TVS ever
                            Pride & Prejudice: Ladakh Ride,

                            Ride To Raajmachi - Highway, Off Roading, Tent fire & Dhamaal

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                            • #12779
                              2k on the ODO :P and still enjoying every single second on the beast.
                              btw guys is it ok to cross 4k rpm before the 2nd service (ie the 2.5k mark) ? if so whats the safe max speed or rpm that i can go without harming the engine ?
                              Last edited by Shadowknight; 12-16-2012, 02:57 AM.

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                              • #12780
                                Originally posted by Shadowknight View Post
                                2k on the ODO :P and still enjoying every single second on the beast.
                                btw guys is it ok to cross 4k rpm before the 2nd service (ie the 2.5k mark) ? if so whats the safe max speed or rpm that i can go without harming the engine ?
                                Yes, it's OK to do so. But, use the throttle gradually (slowly build up speeds) till 5000 km. This will ensure best fuel economy and performance from your bike.

                                Constant redlining will harm the engine. Anything below that is not much of a concern for the short stroke screamer mill.

                                The safe max speed is for you to decide after judging the road/your bikes condition, riding gear and speed limits set by our Law and whatever you might find worth considering
                                The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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