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  • Originally posted by albyjose View Post
    Oiled/Replaced air filter.Thanks to you guys for providing good info.After replacing,bike took more than one kick to start in morning.This usually never happen.Now its ok.But does it mean that I over oiled the filter?
    Another trouble:I think its throttle free play problem.The problem is that I have to give a lot of throttle.For eg,earlier bike used to touch 80's in 4th when 3/4th throttle was applied.Now when giving full throttle only 65 kmph.It feels very easy to give full throttle on any gear,but engine is not revving up high enough?
    Both problems are from same source - i.e the air filter . You have either over-oiled the filter making the AF mixture rich or it was overoiled previously and now being correctly oiled the AF mixture is too lean . I suspect the first case , that you have over oiled the foam elements A and B . Whichever the case your Air-Fuel mix is now incorrect . Do not adjust throttle .

    Corrective measure consists of -

    a) check the air filter elements for signs of excess oil . i.e any oil dripping below it , if so remove excess oil by soaking it up in paper . There should be just enough oil on the foams to make your fingertips oily when you pinch the foam , but no visible oil or drips anywhere on it . Next time after oiling fold up the foam element and keeping it fully enclosed inside the palm of one hand and squeeze it hard and hold it squeezed like that untill no further oil comes out of it . Wipe off with paper . That is correctly oiled . After the first few times you'll get the hang of it .

    b) after fitting correctly oiled filter , ride the bike for sometime (say a 100kms) . Then if necessary have the carburetor slightly retuned to match from good mechanic or ASC .

    Originally posted by paul.1911 View Post
    Only front sprocket has worn out from side wall. And i reverse it and fitted. Rest chain & rear sprocket is fine...
    Yes , your front sprocket looks severely worn . Replace the front one only and see .
    Last edited by Pinaki; 12-23-2012, 01:46 PM.

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    • HH Dawn replacement ??

      Friends, need feed back from the owners, on how they feel about Honda Dream Yuga when they compared with their splendour?? Need to replace my dad's bike. HH Dawn(2002). Splendour is the obvious choice. But just want to know, your take on Dream Yuga. You people can compare better, if you have ridden the Yuga.
      The Dawn has served well for 10 years and around 1.7 Lacs kms.
      HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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      • Do not omit to take a look at the Passion-Xpro sambit ...
        Last edited by Pinaki; 12-23-2012, 04:49 PM.

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        • Originally posted by sambit View Post
          Friends, need feed back from the owners, on how they feel about Honda Dream Yuga when they compared with their splendour?? Need to replace my dad's bike. HH Dawn(2002). Splendour is the obvious choice. But just want to know, your take on Dream Yuga. You people can compare better, if you have ridden the Yuga.
          The Dawn has served well for 10 years and around 1.7 Lacs kms.
          Actually look at passion x pro. You will get much better service and spares support. Also passion x pro comes with digital meter and disc brakes. Also bike is bigger in size than dream yuga.

          But be assured you will not get the same quality as my your DAWN.
          I have ridden x pro and i can assure you you will never go wrong with your choice. Bike feels smooth, riding position is comfortable, and the disc is same as extreme, so best braking in its class. Even you will get best back-up from hero. Go for it. Dream yuga feels too filmsy when you will compare with your dawn. Also the parts costs will be high as compared to passion x pro.
          Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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          • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
            Both problems are from same source - i.e the air filter . You have either over-oiled the filter making the AF mixture rich or it was overoiled previously and now being correctly oiled the AF mixture is too lean . I suspect the first case , that you have over oiled the foam elements A and B . Whichever the case your Air-Fuel mix is now incorrect . Do not adjust throttle .

            Corrective measure consists of -

            a) check the air filter elements for signs of excess oil . i.e any oil dripping below it , if so remove excess oil by soaking it up in paper . There should be just enough oil on the foams to make your fingertips oily when you pinch the foam , but no visible oil or drips anywhere on it . Next time after oiling fold up the foam element and keeping it fully enclosed inside the palm of one hand and squeeze it hard and hold it squeezed like that untill no further oil comes out of it . Wipe off with paper . That is correctly oiled . After the first few times you'll get the hang of it .

            b) after fitting correctly oiled filter , ride the bike for sometime (say a 100kms) . Then if necessary have the carburetor slightly retuned to match from good mechanic or ASC .
            Now the bike is running fine.Starting trouble(Not starting on first kick,starts on second) was only there for 2 days after oiling air filter.I think I did n't squeeze air filter hard enough.
            The second problem was due to excessive free play on throttle.Watched some videos on you tube,and adjusted it.Now its fine.
            Do any of your splendor fish tail when on sudden brakes?Mine always fish tail on sudden brakes, now I learned to control it.Will a worn front tire cause fish tailing?
            "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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            • Originally posted by albyjose View Post
              Now the bike is running fine.Starting trouble(Not starting on first kick,starts on second) was only there for 2 days after oiling air filter.I think I did n't squeeze air filter hard enough.
              The second problem was due to excessive free play on throttle.Watched some videos on you tube,and adjusted it.Now its fine.
              Do any of your splendor fish tail when on sudden brakes?Mine always fish tail on sudden brakes, now I learned to control it.Will a worn front tire cause fish tailing?
              Yes, a worn front tyre will cause fish tailing. Even if slight mis alignment of both side adjuster will cause fish tailing. Regarding chassis balance i never find my joy to fishtail on braking. Even i have braked with rear brake without catching the handle and still my bikes skidded in a straight line. Also check rear shock absorber, if it soft then also bike will fishtail on breaking.
              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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              • nxg

                how is nxg. how's its different from other slplendor series bikes

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                • Originally posted by int86 View Post
                  how is nxg. how's its different from other slplendor series bikes
                  NXG is peppier than Splendor+ and is on par with Splendor Pro. Makes 7.8 PS of max power at around 7.5k RPM.
                  Mileage overall is north of 60 in all conditions taken together.
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                  • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                    Do not omit to take a look at the Passion-Xpro sambit ...
                    Originally posted by sibun View Post
                    Actually look at passion x pro. You will get much better service and spares support. Also passion x pro comes with digital meter and disc brakes. Also bike is bigger in size than dream yuga.
                    But be assured you will not get the same quality as my your DAWN.
                    I have ridden x pro and i can assure you you will never go wrong with your choice. Bike feels smooth, riding position is comfortable, and the disc is same as extreme, so best braking in its class. Even you will get best back-up from hero. Go for it. Dream yuga feels too filmsy when you will compare with your dawn. Also the parts costs will be high as compared to passion x pro.
                    Thanks friends.
                    I Was omitting Passion, due to its weight. Splendour and Dream Yuga are a little on lighter side.Any ways, I havent tested the XPro. I will soon, then decide. Hopefully the price difference between the Xpro and Dream wont be much. I dont really want the Digi console , but tubeless tires and disk brakes are really important for safety.

                    Query-
                    Has anybody changed the splendour to tubeless tires?? OR can it be done with the same alloy rim??
                    HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                    • Originally posted by int86 View Post
                      how is nxg. how's its different from other slplendor series bikes
                      Splendor nxg is one of the best commuter bikes but is highly under-rated. It is quite good bike and actually feels better than spl+. It is peppier and also the riding position and height is roomier than spl+ and also styling is quite good. Also the bike is quite taller than spl+. I would definitely recommend splendor nxg over splendor +.

                      Originally posted by sambit View Post
                      Thanks friends.
                      I Was omitting Passion, due to its weight. Splendour and Dream Yuga are a little on lighter side.Any ways, I havent tested the XPro. I will soon, then decide. Hopefully the price difference between the Xpro and Dream wont be much. I dont really want the Digi console , but tubeless tires and disk brakes are really important for safety.

                      Query-
                      Has anybody changed the splendour to tubeless tires?? OR can it be done with the same alloy rim??
                      Actually passion x pro is heavier on paper, but once on move it feels lighter. Yes, you can convert splendor to tubeless on same alloy so no problem. But the problem is finding tubeless in that size.
                      Passion x pro is costlier by approx 5k from splendor pro. The on road cost of passion x pro is coming to about 61k in cuttack.
                      For that you get more than splendor are:-
                      1. New model engine which is vertical rather than sloping or horizontal engine. So crank life will be more.
                      2. Self start which you will get for 55k in splendor pro but for only 5k more you will get many other features.
                      3. Tubeless tyres. Also tyres are wider- front is 80/100-18 which is same as new extreme/hunk/ZMR. and the rear is 90/90-18.
                      4. Engine is 110 cc with 8.7 ps @7500 and 9.36 Nm @ 5500 rpm. In a city like cuttack the high torque will help you a lot. Even some 150+ bikes will find it difficult to catch it in city.
                      5. The chassis is diamond type with rectangular swing arm which increases the handling and safety in sudden maneuverer. The splendor comes with double down tube and tubular swingarm.
                      6. Also disc brakes is an added advantage.
                      7. Ignition is transistorized rather than CDI. Since you ride an apache you know the advantages of TCI over CDI.
                      8. the styling is updated and the fuel filler cap is like extreme unlike old model.

                      So i would recommend it for you. Even sometimes you will feel to ride it rather than apache in a city like cuttack. So think and decide. By the way for whom you are buying it. If it is for your own family then it is highly recommended. Also go for a test-ride and see the difference. Even when i went for test-ride i was mighty impressed although i am not buying any bike now.
                      Check the specs and features:-
                      Bike - Passion XPro
                      Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                      • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                        Splendor nxg is one of the best commuter bikes but is highly under-rated. It is quite good bike and actually feels better than spl+. It is peppier and also the riding position and height is roomier than spl+ and also styling is quite good. Also the bike is quite taller than spl+. I would definitely recommend splendor nxg over splendor +.


                        Actually passion x pro is heavier on paper, but once on move it feels lighter. Yes, you can convert splendor to tubeless on same alloy so no problem. But the problem is finding tubeless in that size.
                        Passion x pro is costlier by approx 5k from splendor pro. The on road cost of passion x pro is coming to about 61k in cuttack.
                        For that you get more than splendor are:-
                        1. New model engine which is vertical rather than sloping or horizontal engine. So crank life will be more.
                        2. Self start which you will get for 55k in splendor pro but for only 5k more you will get many other features.
                        3. Tubeless tyres. Also tyres are wider- front is 80/100-18 which is same as new extreme/hunk/ZMR. and the rear is 90/90-18.
                        4. Engine is 110 cc with 8.7 ps @7500 and 9.36 Nm @ 5500 rpm. In a city like cuttack the high torque will help you a lot. Even some 150+ bikes will find it difficult to catch it in city.
                        5. The chassis is diamond type with rectangular swing arm which increases the handling and safety in sudden maneuverer. The splendor comes with double down tube and tubular swingarm.
                        6. Also disc brakes is an added advantage.
                        7. Ignition is transistorized rather than CDI. Since you ride an apache you know the advantages of TCI over CDI.
                        8. the styling is updated and the fuel filler cap is like extreme unlike old model.

                        So i would recommend it for you. Even sometimes you will feel to ride it rather than apache in a city like cuttack. So think and decide. By the way for whom you are buying it. If it is for your own family then it is highly recommended. Also go for a test-ride and see the difference. Even when i went for test-ride i was mighty impressed although i am not buying any bike now.
                        Check the specs and features:-
                        Bike - Passion XPro

                        Just came from the test ride. Feels good. But high in price point of view.The drum version costs 57.5K which is 2 K more than Dream Yuga. Now thats unjustifiable. The fancy digi speedo console would cost at max Rs.400 more than the analoge one( remember, it doesnt have speedo meter). Totally not VFM. I would better go for Splendour for my Dad. Beside, he wont need that extra torque either.His biking days are over .He has sold his old Bullet a decades ago. Any ways, now the main ques is, if the dream yuga's tubeless tires can fit the Splendour or not?? (both size= 18).

                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        NXG is peppier than Splendor+ and is on par with Splendor Pro. Makes 7.8 PS of max power at around 7.5k RPM.
                        Mileage overall is north of 60 in all conditions taken together.
                        Today, was inquiring about NXG, they said, Hero has stopped manufacturing it.
                        HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                        • Went for a small trip around town with friends for a fun ride.There were 220,r15,fz,activa,forced to take my splendor along as I don't have any other bike currently.Did my first unintentional wheelie with a pillion,while giving a little too much throttle when going over a bump.
                          "Vibes transmitted from crank shaft to frame, then through the bearings of the head stock and into the stem where it meets the triple clamp and into the clip-ons where it is greeted with great pleasure by my hands"-ratfighter mod rtr

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                          • Originally posted by sambit View Post
                            Just came from the test ride. Feels good. But high in price point of view.The drum version costs 57.5K which is 2 K more than Dream Yuga. Now thats unjustifiable. The fancy digi speedo console would cost at max Rs.400 more than the analoge one( remember, it doesnt have speedo meter). Totally not VFM. I would better go for Splendour for my Dad. Beside, he wont need that extra torque either.His biking days are over .He has sold his old Bullet a decades ago. Any ways, now the main ques is, if the dream yuga's tubeless tires can fit the Splendour or not?? (both size= 18)...Today, was inquiring about NXG, they said, Hero has stopped manufacturing it.
                            You did the right thing - nothing like a ride to judge a bike . It's not exactly unjustfied and I'll say this at great peril of a flame fight here - Hero parts are much better quality & long lasting than Honda (hmsi) ones in each item . Closely inspect a 4-5 year old Honda bike(or any other make) and HeroHonda bike and you'll see what I mean . Very much more VFM than the dream yuga IMHO - without even considering that you have to pay extra for the standard fittings like a leg guard for the Yuga .
                            Also PassionXpro's weight is very close to/same as Splendor's - this is possible because of the reduced weight of a diamond type frame .
                            Can't say about tubeless tyre on Splendor , I prefer wire-spoke wheels . I'd go for kick-drum-spoke models . These bikes needs a very light kick and 130mm drum brake on both wheels is adequate .
                            But yes , dad would love Splendor+ just as well - it is the most loved bike in India ever .

                            NXG's manufacture is not stopped - dealers say things like that when they have other stock to sell . A phonecall to Hero toll-free number(1800-266-0018) to confirm that it's in production and an email to Hero Reach Us - Query Form should quickly cure their lethargy . I did the same thing when my dealer said that Splendor+ no longer comes in spoke wheels and extended-warranty+some Hero club membership was compulsory . They retracted on both counts with profuse apology .
                            Last edited by Pinaki; 12-27-2012, 03:50 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              You did the right thing - nothing like a ride to judge a bike . It's not exactly unjustfied and I'll say this at great peril of a flame fight here - Hero parts are much better quality & long lasting than Honda (hmsi) ones in each item . Closely inspect a 4-5 year old Honda bike(or any other make) and HeroHonda bike and you'll see what I mean . Very much more VFM than the dream yuga IMHO - without even considering that you have to pay extra for the standard fittings like a leg guard for the Yuga .
                              Also PassionXpro's weight is very close to/same as Splendor's - this is possible because of the reduced weight of a diamond type frame .
                              Can't say about tubeless tyre on Splendor , I prefer wire-spoke wheels . I'd go for kick-drum-spoke models . These bikes needs a very light kick and 130mm drum brake on both wheels is adequate .
                              But yes , dad would love Splendor+ just as well - it is the most loved bike in India ever .

                              NXG's manufacture is not stopped - dealers say things like that when they have other stock to sell . A phonecall to Hero toll-free number(1800-266-0018) to confirm that it's in production and an email to Hero Reach Us - Query Form should quickly cure their lethargy . I did the same thing when my dealer said that Splendor+ no longer comes in spoke wheels and extended-warranty+some Hero club membership was compulsory . They retracted on both counts with profuse apology .
                              For the 2k that you pay extra cut 1k for extended warranty and good life program. So in Actual you are paying only 1k extra. And pinakiji you are right, although there is a chance of flame fight i will back you as hero quality is better than Honda. I will back it as i have personally seen. Near my mechanic there are Honda shine which are coming at 30-35k for engine overhaul and will be smoking like two strokes. Any hero honda you see will have run 70-80k and still not smoking.
                              The previous shines were nice but new bikes are not so good. Even in unicorns they smoke at 40k and require engine overhaul with valve guides change.
                              In unicorns if you change to new bore kit then also it will consume oil. The only solution is to re-bore and run tighter clearance. My mechanic regularly work on honda bikes which smoke at as low as 30k. Even another mechanic also verifies the same.
                              And i will always say hero quality is better than Honda.
                              @sambit- If you want you can talk to my mechanic over phone and verify my facts. And splendor nxg is not stopped and neither acheiver. These idiots always give some excuse. If you want nxg then come to bhubaneswar and i will get it for you.

                              Even i had previously told shoeb about the same of problems in new Honda bikes. Even my cousins stunner although has run only 12k, is drinking oil like crazy. Only day before yesterday i topped up around 400 ml of engine oil. Next time i will open the bore to check the condition.
                              Splendor will be best for your father as splendor is the perfect gentleman bike.
                              Go for splendor pro spoke and self start. Splendor pro always looks good in spoke rather than alloy. After buying just plonk Honda tuff up tube of size 3.00-18 in both the tyres. Splendor pro also comes with new model engine and puts out as much as 8.04 N-m @ as low as 4500 rpm. So it can pull in low speed in 4th gear which is needed in city like cuttack. Go for splendor pro. It has many advantages over spl+ and you can see it two pages back.
                              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                              • Thanks Friends... and yes, forgot about the Tuff up tubes... I guess shine's tubes can go well with Splendour pro.
                                I am selecting Alloy wheel because it needs less maintainance(cleaning) , though it always looks better with spokes. But hey, common man. Dont bash Honda that much... We are using its tech. remember. hehe... cheers...
                                HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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