No, we are not bashing honda, but i am telling the facts. Your choice of alloy or spoke. Just post ownership and buying experience. And also welcome to this thread.
I am not bashing, sorry if you got it wrong. Even we own a stunner. But i am saying why hero cost more than Honda bike.

Splendor is always easy to wheelie. While most think splendor is low powered, but you will see splendor wheelie easily. Heck even my joy wheelies easily than my extreme. Regarding unintentional wheelie, just slow down in first gear with a pillion and suddenly give accelerator, you will be surprised that front will lift. It is because splendor series have direct throttle control and thus the accelerator response is very sharp.

re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

With a pillion all the bikes wheelies easley, more weight on the back = easy to lift the front up. Thats the reason, not because of splendor's amazing power or 'direct throttle control' (what is it this direct throttle control anyway? )



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Short gearing plays a part too,low weight on front makes it easy to wheelie than other bikes like platina,discover etc.I am sometimes surprised that generally splendor is considered "boring".I find it really enjoyable,due to low weight,gearing!I prefer splendor to my bro's unicorn if considering fun factor.
The activa (automatic transmisson helped)could pull more load on a inclined road,I had to ask my pillion to get down from the bike to go up in a really inclined road.

Ok, you got the facts wrong.For wheelie torque is important than power and most hundred cc bikes have very high low end torque. Torque is what which pulls the front end up.
Let me take an example of my extreme and my joy. My joy makes around 8 N-m of torque and my extreme 12.8 Nm, so do the math and see that torque of joy/splendor is almost equal when compared to cc. Even take the case of classic 500 which makes 41 n-m torque. Divide it and you will get the same result.
So what happens that we can increase the power of a bike by modification but torque is a function of displacement as torque is the amount of rotational force produced on crank shaft. So more the force on piston more the rotational force produced. So until and unless capacity is bumped torque cannot be bumped.
But there is a catch, the unit torque produced by an engine per cc is constant unless some other fuel with higher calorific value is used. So you see in terms of torque production splendor is there with rest as higher cc bikes when equated comes to same torque.
Now lets come back to my Joy and extreme.
Extreme makes its maximum torque at 6500 rpm but my joy makes at 5000 rpm. Moreover joy is light at 115 kg than extreme at 145 kg.
Then comes the gearbox part. Gear box acts as torque multiplier. Power remains same in each gear but torque varies. In my joy the first gear ratio is 3.178:1, so the torque reaching to rear wheel is 3.178*8= 25.425 Nm, so you now know why it wheelies easily. So splendor is not underpowered when it comes to torque.Most 100 cc bikes have so much low end torque that they will pull from stand still in 2nd gear.
Now coming to splendor and my joy, then the difference are:-
So if my Joy pulls up the front wheel if slightly mishandled with clutch then splendor will easily pull up the front wheel.In fact in my fathers splendor i have pulled wheelies a number of times.
Regarding direct throttle control, then the bikes like apache, pulsar,karizma,stunner, e.t.c employs CV carb while splendor employs slide carb. In those carbs the slide opens due to vacuum and thus no matter how much you twist the throttle the slide will open gradually. But in splendor, the slide is directly controlled by accelerator, so when you suddenly open the throttle the venturi opens rapidly and thus response is quick.This is what direct throttle control means.
You will see race prepared bikes run slide or flat slide carburettors rather than CV carbs.

If you are thinking splendor is short geared, then my friend you are wrong. Just ride shine and stunner and then you will know what short geared is. Splendor gear ratios are perfectly matched to the bikes torque.
Regarding pillion getting down, i have never encountered the same even in steepest incline on my joy. I think you were not able to control the sharp response of clutch while in incline.
Regarding CVT of Activa then if i explain then it will become too long. From my pleasure manual, i am posting that the CVT varies ratio in the range 9.35-1, so you can imagine how much the gear ratio will be varying. In your splendor you have only 4 ratios to play, but CVT has infinite ratio to play. So they have a advantage over manual gears in incline surface.
But they have a drawback that if they are stuck somewhere like mud or rocks then they will not pull, while your geared bike will happily pull up.

When it comes to stunt then you are wrong the boxer series engine like boxer, CT 100 and platina will lift the front wheel easily than splendor. It is because there front end is taller, first gear is very short and they have vertical engine which releases power abruptly. Also there clutch are sharp unlike splendor which is progressive. Ride a Ct 100 and be sure that for first time you will pull a wheelie unknowingly.
For me some of the bikes that can pull wheelie even without trying are:-
RX 100 and 135(need i say more)
TVS-SUZUKI MAX 100( this bike weighs only 92 kg and has a torque of approx 9 Nm @3500 rpm. So wheelie are child play)
BAJAJ BOXER SERIES(these engines have first gear extremely short and also clutch are like on - off switch, so it becomes difficult to control in first gear)
Shine and stunner( Same the first gear is too short, sometimes not required as 2nd gear is enough to pull from stand still)
Hero honda splendor series(more easily in CD 100 SS and CD 100)

Enough of talking. Yesterday i was browsing you tube of splendor videos and some stunt videos are:-

STOPPIE:-




THOSE GUYS ARE IDIOTS TO DO STUNTING WITHOUT HELMETS OR RIDING GEAR BUT SINCE WE DO NOT KNOW THEM SO WE CANNOT ADVISE THEM. SO ALWAYS WEAR SAFETY GEARS BEFORE ATTEMPTING STUNTS.

since we cannot post more than one video in each post then see another video:-

I would like to repeat same thing here:-
THOSE GUYS ARE IDIOTS TO DO STUNTING WITHOUT HELMETS OR RIDING GEAR BUT SINCE WE DO NOT KNOW THEM SO WE CANNOT ADVISE THEM. SO ALWAYS WEAR SAFETY GEARS BEFORE ATTEMPTING STUNTS.

@sibun, man,that is one hell of a post.This is what I love in splendor ownership thread.People don't reply each other,but they actually teach each other.
You are absolutely right,regarding everything.I was a little afraid to climb that incline with pillion,it was not a road,but a shortcut made for people to walk,I did n't know before going halfway.Many people were walking so I thought safe is to ask pillion to walk.
I rode my friends shine,turns out it is indeed shorter.In the practical sense,really short means,the speed achieved on each gear will be less,compared to long gear,right?
One thing I can't understand..why is short better in cities than long?Many time in cities(towns),we have to stop,then accelerate as hard as possible to cross a crowded junction(No police/traffic lights,oncoming traffic won't slow down,so rip if you want to live kind of situations).So splendor needs large no of gear changes to reach a decent speed.Thats short,right?

Hey,my bike now 10 year old,19k(bike was resting a lot)still running on stock tire in front.Now bike fishtails at even <20kmph on braking rear hard.Good time to change tire?(Lot of grip still left).Any suggestions for tires?Planing to keep stock specs.

@ sibun
I want know...
The number of teeth on GPT? =
The number of teeth on Clutch gear? =

The number of teeth on Drive Shaft of...??
1st Gear =
2nd Gear =
3rd Gear =
4th Gear =

and the number of teeth on the main shaft of....?
1st Gear =
2nd Gear =
3rd Gear =
4th Gear =

Thanks in advance
And HAPPY NEW YEAR to all!!

I will post it today night as gear ratios of pre 2000 bikes and after 2000 bikes are different. And also the main shaft has three gears and counter shaft four gears. I will confirm and then post.

Mine is 2003 model.

I will post all models gear ratios and primary and secondary reductions. Let me confirm at night and then i will post.

re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

You're absolutely right and I was wrong.
Never knew splendor uses slide type carbs, I'm myself gonna get one after the bigbore process is done.
Cheers.



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No, you were not wrong. Its that you were not aware of the technical aspects so you said so. Nothing to feel, as everyone gets to know something from others.
By the way which bike were you doing for bigbore and from whom.

Wow ! I Never knew that gear ratios were changed since y2k.
I had calculated the gear ratios of my 1990 CD engine sometime ago,All this while I thinking that even the newer ones had same ratio so I never bothered to calculate on the newer engines.
What do you mean by three gears on main-shaft ? Each gear on main-shaft has a corresponding gear on counter-shaft,no ?
All this gears sets should be interchangeable with each other(y2k and pre y2k,as a pair of-course).

GPT and Clutch gear teeth no. also changed ? OK,ok Further comments and doubts only after seeing the gear ratios.Please post it soon.

Splendor Pro or Passion xPro

Friends,
I am riding Honda shine for last 1 year and feeling below two problems:
1. I feel bike is taller for me especially when driving through heavy traffic. My height is 5 ft 4 inch.
2. I feel bike's balance is not uniform and it tend to move to right side when tried to drive with less pressure on handle bar.
So I decided to quit this bike and find a suitable bike for me which goes with my height.
I am looking for basic office commuter bike and shortlisted splendor pro and passion xpro.
i have driven splendor pro and it looks quite comfortable for my height.
I have seen the specifications of Passion xpro on Hero website and they are saying Saddle height of passion xpro is 785mm (which is same as splendor + and splendor pro). I have not driven passion xpro.
But if any of you has driven both the bikes, could you please explore it more about its seat hight, comfort etc.
Thank you all!!!