From my experiences not even a single mechanic said that you should follow owners manual...i think they hav allergy with that book,,
Mechanics fear that they will lose their job if we will follow the book..and no longer they can proclaim themselves as encyclopedia

Nice article about foam filters

It's simpler than that . They cannot read .

Ever since that spill-day, I was riding the Crux (which much needed the exercise, after Splendor came) . I was suspecting some electrical loose connection etc for the stalling, strongly feels to me that way . Today it's raining since dawn here , and I got the bike into a vacant room downstairs somehow . Right now I have taken out the seat and panels and the tank . Cleaned out all damned electrical connections there I could find and reach , other than those inside the headlight-fairing and back-light panel . Using 800 emery followed by iso-propyl alcohol and clean dry cloth . Now I am having a good mind to solder them all permanently instead of these pesky connector thingies ... next weekend . Any reason why I should not be doing this ?
I also found that resistor rat behind the back-light assembly , bolted to the frame underneath (thanks Sibun brother) . It looks like some sort of ceramic resistor to me , and it is mighty corroded white . I am going to clean it up best I can with sandpaper/alcohol and give it a coat of aluminum paint or my fav red-lead oxide primer . Any reason why I should not be doing this either ?

I had fixed a turn-indicator beeper , minda make a few days before that . Could it be the source of any trouble ?

The bike is still dismantled ... So anything else I may have missed checking in there ?

LOL

Did you clean the carburetor as Sibun said ? Before checking everything else,clean the carb and dry it first.

You need to check the ignition switch connector contacts.(MUST)
Ignition coil contacts.
Cdi contacts.

??? You will strip the connectors and solder them directly ???? But why ???

In my car,I removed all the fuse connectors and tinned them so that it holds the fuses better and prevents loose contact issue.

No need to do all those to that resistor,just make sure that it is still alive and there is good contact with ground.

No problem,I am using a local relay-buzzer for last 6 years.

It is not the fault of mechanics. The fault lies with us. Most of the people that i know never ever open the manual. As soon as they get the bike home they just throw the manual to a corner and only search it when they need free service.
When we got the joy, i was only 13 years old, but still i read the manual like text book even though i didn't ride the bike. My father also read the manual of joy and also splendor which he got in 2010. I read the manual of cbz extreme which i bought in sept. 2011, although everybody knows that i knows a lot about bikes.
But my sister didn't read the manual of pleasure nor did my cousin brothers read the manual of their bikes when they got the bikes.
So the fault lies with us. Also most people get time to go for movies, spend time with wife or girl friend, waste time in shopping malls but when comes to bike maintenance they just leave it in the hands of mechanics without standing themselves.
I am fortunate to get a excellent mechanic who not only maintained my bike but also taught me a lot about bikes. But all are not fortunate.
Most people i have seen that their bikes will be dirty like gutters and when asked will tell that they do not get time. I have gotten up at 4 AM to wash my bike. The thing is that we do not get time but we have to keep time aside in a week for bike as it is not a thing but a part of your life.
Why did you completely dismantle the bike.After the bike has a fall petrol enters the venturi and thus causes idling problem. just open the carburettor and clean it. Your problem will go. Do not solder the connectors. In fact there is no need to fiddle with the connector. My bikes wiring has never been touched. Not even a single connector has been opened and all are sealed as it came from factory. In bajaj bikes mostly connectors requires cleaning with air pressure but in hero honda the connectors are very good and never need attention. Do not solder the connectors. If soldering was the solution then company would have provided it. Instead connector provides ease of maintainable.But there is no need of fiddling with connectors. Just clean your carburettors and your bike will be ok.
@shoeb- did you get the PM.

Yes,you are right.

I also have the habit of reading all the manual of everything I have.
In the manual one can find some small features which most don't know.
I have read manuals of different cars,bikes, gadgets,datasheet of many electronic components,computer hardware and the list is endless.

I like to spend some time with my mechanic but my parents dont like it ,he is very good person with lots of knowledge of bike and moral values ,anyone will become his friend by just meeting once.

I did not get any PM.

Sibun ji any info of aftermarket HH fiber parts manufacturer web ?

Pinaki ji & Sibun ji got a info that HH Spare Catalogue & Shop Manual are also provided in digital ( pdf ) format to ASC's , try if you can get it .

Just imagine any one of indicator got damaged & needs replacement , then those sockets will make replacement easy .
So leave the connectors as it is , its good to have plug & play . Isn't it .
Also working with solder gun near petrol bike is not good idea . ( Though i have done it many time fixing all my secrete switches )

If it is working good then i don't think cleaning of resistor required . But if have time & wish then proceed .

To be fair, I found very little tarnish in the connectors and no looseness . Only thing I disliked is they are collecting water and holding it inside them . Keeping an metallic electrical junction soggy wet like this for prolonged periods , ummmm I dunno ... maybe these connectors can withstand it maybe not . Monsoons are long here in kolkata, and generally it's a very humid place ...
Soldering up all connectors like that is called hardwiring , it's practiced by hot-rodders and custom bike makers . I have just read about it , but I think I can do it ... I'm pretty good at soldering .

Yes I know the consequences of course . If sometime later on an electrical problem develops in the bike , you can't just unplug parts of the wiring loom to isolate different parts to detect the problem . You have to snip wires then . Also you can't replace some(very few) electrical parts , like the foot-brake switch or one of the turn-indicators in a jiffy . But I may be able to live with that , given the many-fold increase of reliability and cleanliness of the circuits with good soldered splices and heat-shrink wraps . But it would not be an easy job ... too many various type connectors in there . Well at least I am considering it carefully .

Finished the work started today . Can tell after a few days of riding only . Carb cleaning next if necessary , am trying to avoid it since the carb was very clean last I saw and it would take some time to tune as well as it is now (the way I like it) , lets see ..

This is that resistor ( SE10, 20W 6.7Ω ,3PU written on it ) ... Initially, cleaned and now painted .



Sorry for poor focus on first and last pic . Also couldn't measure the resistance etc , because my el-cheapo multimeter is flashing "low-battery" since today only .

If you don't want to clean it , at least remove the top nut ,piston slide and let the carb dry.

Did you paint both the sides ? Sand the back side of the resistor and mounting area so that it makes a very good contact with ground.

How is the water entering into contacts ? They are supposed to be covered with a black rubber protector/cover.
I never had any problem with wiring or loose contact issue,the contacts are of very good quality and they have a plastic sleeve.
Water does not enter there even after me pressure washing the bike every alternate day.

Can you post some pictures of the wiring behind RH side panel and under the seat behind the tail lamp assembly ?

BTW,I got a tune of 1.65 turns on carburetor and I am very happy with it.

@Pinaki ji
To be true, i haven't cleaned my any clips from 9 years. I haven't got any problem, even if its hold the water, nothing wrong is gonna happen. Those clips are junk free. If u feel some carbon, then apply petroleum jelly a bit.
I only clean sometimes if i open something to fix.

Where is the location to that resister?

How did u tune your carburetor. There is not fix turn for every carburetor, they may have little bit difference.
How do u set a perfect ratio?

In passion,joy,cd dawn -It is under the rear grab rail mount (under the seat).
In CD-deluxe,splendor,nxg it is behind tail lamp assembly.


I followed Sibun's procedure,learnt it from my mechanic also.
I think Sibun is going to make a DIY thread on that,he mentioned somewhere in this forum.

@ Paul.1911 - I did it by trial and error . I think I'm at 2 turns out from closed on the air-screw now . Idle set near 900 at cold .

I dont know about that, but i use this method & its really work. Here is how i've posted on different thread

Now if u ask me from where u've learn this
I google & learn from different web sits a year ago. And is the right method for me to get a perfect AFR.

mechanic in bangalore east

Wonderful thread.
I have been enjoying the reliable service of my splendor from 2002 onwards. Its at 45k on odo.

I stay at Kasturi Nagar (near Banaswadi) and dont find any good hero honda A.S.S nearby. Could someone suggest a reliable independent mechanic/work shop for my bike?
Thanks!

Welcome to the forum windride.
The guys here are very helpful, they are always ready to give quick response. Post your problems and we are ready to help.
As for mechanic, a person from your area can tell you.
Have a pleasant stay