Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Welcome to the thread Mr.Karthik. Do share your experience with us about your 11 year old bike.

@all, passion pro has completed 36,000 kms today. Adjusted the drive chain and lubricated it with 140 gear oil. Bike is running good.

Cleaning & Lubrication of handlebar switches .

As promised ..

Better to start any job with a clean washed vehicle . It simplifies maintenance jobs a lot and is a safety measure . This is why Hero service center shall insist on a wash before any other job on a bike .



Unlock the right side cowl . ( I know I got the wrong one )



Disconnect battery connectors and drain tube . Undo battery cage bolt .



Remove battery from bike and set it aside in dry place .



Looking from under the handle , there are just 2 screws holding the switch assembly together , I marked them with the red arrows .



Undo the screws , clean them , put a drop of oil on the threads and set aside carefully in clean place . I use an empty matchbox .



Gently pry open the upper and lower halves of the assembly .



Don't yell , I kept mine filled with black grease , which has just hardened up in 5 years



Undo the small screw pointed out by red arrow , clean lube and keep aside as usual .



Remove the cover plate .



Flush these two halves by repeatedly filling with solvent and draining , I used kerosene . And gently brushed with old toothbrush .



let it drip dry , then wipe clean with shop-rag .



Lubricate all things inside with a light oil , I used sewing machine oil (wd40 , Zorrik etc is also suitable). Work every switch several times to ensure smooth operation after oiling . Wipe off excess . (also these are the only things you'd need for this job).



Don't forget to clean up the handle bar ( the portion that goes under the switch ) and grease lightly . Sometimes it rusts there .



Now just by pressing together the two halves of the switch assembly on the handle by hand , insert and tighten the two screws from below .



and my HMT Kohinoor says it took all of 45 minutes on a cold foggy day in Kolkata .

Re: Cleaning & Lubrication of handlebar switches .



Dear Pinaki,

If these switches went wrong. Can we able to change contacts for Horn/ Indicator switch ? or need full set as replacement ?

Yogesh

Re: Cleaning & Lubrication of handlebar switches .

Request anyone to answer this since I have no idea . Same thought also crossed my mind

By the looks of it I feel the replacement must come as a set , alongwith the connecting wire cable (since it is firmly soldered to the switch-assembly) . Small repairs may be possible on further disassembly, if necessary . The mechanisms are rather simple and robust .

Re: Cleaning & Lubrication of handlebar switches .

Normaly not available as spare,but can just clean the contacts and little lubrication will give its life to back or you can replace the small parts with other old units,which you can easily get from mechanic junk box.

Re: Cleaning & Lubrication of handlebar switches .

Pinaki sir, that was well explained. Bike is looking like new. Is that a dent in your bike's tank?

Re: Cleaning & Lubrication of handlebar switches .

Yes . The story behind this dent goes like - my classmate's little boy was visiting here from newyork and I had taken him out for ice-popsicle which he loves . So I had parked the bike on mainstand was chatting up someone while he was enjoying his ice behind me . Suddenly hearing people yell , I looked back and saw that the little fellow was trying to sort of climb up the bike from the right side and the bike gradually toppling on him . I don't know how in the heaven I was able to yank him away in an instant and let the bike fall . It fell partway on the right and came to rest with a dull thud on a street lamp-post and got that mild dent on the tank. Anyway thankfully the kid was safe, and the dent though painful wasn't affecting the bike's smooth running, so I let it be

Need Carbuerator Tuning Tips - HH Super Splendor

How to tune the carbuerator of HH Super Splendor. All i know is carb mixes the fuel and air and sends the mixture to engine.

Need to know which screw controls air and which screw controls the fuel and what does the clockwise / anticlockwise movement of different screws do.

Attached a pic of my HH Super Splendor Carb..

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

First of all very very happy new year wishes to all the xbhpians and senior members from Pranab Pandey from Jabalpur (M.P.)
I have been going through some major problems with my bike and for the purpose of solving those problems I have been reading hundreds of posts of senior members of xbhp. This particular thread has helped me a lot to rectify those problems. My Hero Honda Passion+ is more than 10 years old and was bought in 2004. I use to hate this bike too much at the beginning and use to abuse it quite a lot but with time it has gained a lot of respect and at this point when it started giving all sorts of problem I am not willing to sell this bike at any cost and determined to solve the issues myself because my mechanic failed to rectify problems.
For the past almost 9 years it didnt gave any trouble.. But for the past one year upon starting the bike at morning engine oil use to come on the spark plug and I was only left with the option to open the spark plug and clean it and start the bike again. I got fed up and took the bike to my mechanic and even showed it to Hero honda service centre also and they suggested both suggested me for piston change because it was more than 10 years and has clocked 1Lakh plus Kms but I was surprised that the bike wasnt giving white smoke. But still I thought that everyday oil was coming on the spark plug so I thought that the piston rings must have gone bad. So finally I did the engine rebore from my mechanic. Changed both valves ,timing chain, rocker arms and rebored with usha ring piston set (.25). I thought that the oil coming on the spark plug problem has solved but to my surprise on the very 2nd day i experienced same problem and had to again open the spsrk plug and saw oil in it. So I realized that the problem was not the bad piston rings, thats why there wasnt any white some from my bike. ....... Upon realizing this I thought to figure out the problem my self. I started tinkering few things on my bike and started reading threads and visiting forums. I have registered to Xbhp just to share my experience so that it may help someone in future. The steps i took for the engine oil coming to the spark plug problem.

1. I cleaned the air filter thinking that it may have been clogged and wasnt letting enough air flow to the carburetor.

2. I checked the engine oil level and found out that it was over filled. Searched for the owner's manual which I have kept with me for the past 10 years and found in it that the recommended quantity is 750ml. I think my mechanic has filled 1L oil during the servicing.

3. I tried to reduce the petrol supply from carburetor because black carbon / black oily stuff was accumulating on the spark plug. but even with reduced petrol supply carbon was still accumulating. So I opened up the petrol supply/pilot screw and found there was black sooty stuff on its lower 1/3rd part. So I cleaned it with petrol and screwed it back. It actually worked . The black soot wasnt allowing the screw to close the petrol supply properly.

4. I read on this thread and started to hunt for a non resistor type plug. Because I was going through oily plug condition I thought it would help if I can get a non resistor plug because it would give a hotter spark and better/complete combustion and will help the oil (which was coming on spark plug) to burn off during combustion. To my surprise the spare parts shop dosnt have any idea about resistor or non resistor spark plug. All I could find was the Champion PR7Z somethin somethin which I am already using and is a resistor spark plug.

5. Upon failing to get a non resistor plug I started googling about how the spark plug is actually made and if there is any possibility I can get rid of the RESISTOR. Upon reading some articles I found out that there is a possibility. I took my Champion spark plug and took off the resistor and the plug is now giving Bluish white spark as compared to earlier when it use to give red or orangish spark. I think it is giving a getter and hotter spark.

6. Then I retuned the carburetor on a leaner setting (not very lean) and now after 5 or 6 days of riding, took off the spark plug and it was clean and there wasnt any carbon deposit on it................................ I am the happiest guy on earth heheeee

Note: I have been facing this problem from last 1 year and was avoiding the engine rebore but got fed up with the oily spark plug problem and did the rebore couple of days back in December 2015 but the problem didnt go. Then upon doing some small tits and bits by myself the bike has again came to its full glory.

Now only a little tik tik tik tik sound coming from head side of the engine. I think its the more than recommended loose tappet gap . My mechanic has a history of doing more than recommended things as we all know lolzz..... Senior members kindly give your opinion on this.

Regards
Pranab

Re: Need Carbuerator Tuning Tips - HH Super Splendor

Approved and merged!

Please go through this thread.

Re: Need Carbuerator Tuning Tips - HH Super Splendor

The one in left - slanted screw is the air screw, opening anticlockwise will cause more air. Better not to screw up if bike running properly. The one next to it is idling screw, for changing idling rpm (this is not related to afr ratio)

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

armed with your advices , got new shoes for my Splendor+ rear brakes .



It is a OE Hero part , old asbestos type ( which I prefer ) , for 110mm drum brake , costing Rs 110.00 . Few other shops selling for Rs 105.00 too .

From the strange part number 43120365H70S I am almost sure they are not a Splendor part , maybe CD100 part . But the OE dealer here assured they'd fit perfectly . Shall update this post about fitment & performance asap .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

They will fit for sure. I bought in March 24, 2015 for Rs.120 with part number 45125KCCH00S. Don't know wheres the difference is. They keep on changing part numbers.

Edit: i think yours is small. I bought small 110mm for Rs.110...that's right :thumbup: the above one i mentioned is 120mm for front.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Hi All,

I have serious problem in my bike, need your help and suggestions. Please help.....

Let me start explaining what happened from yesterday. I started back home from my office and on one kick bike started and was able to go for around 50ft and stopped all of sudden. Tried starting by multiple kicks and also tried other option by push start but ended with no luck. Took to mechanic near by and surprisingly me started in sec by just removing the spark plug cap and hold directly at plug. Next on, bike was smooth and started with out any issue was back home.


To reached office without any start issue. Now when was starting back home again same issue. On one kick bike started and was able to go for around 50ft and stopped. Tried starting but again ended with no luck. Took to same mechanic and he did the same and started the bike.

Now when I ask what's the issue? Why I'm facing this problem? his reply "oil is reaching piston head, hence this issue. To rectify need to remove engine and fix it. Cost goes around 1800/-. Can be fixed and done by 6hours".

Could you suggest me, what I need to do now? I'm puzzled and more varied of bike.

Bike: Splendor (2002)
Odometer Reading: 90,000
Not done any major changes. (most parts are factory fittings. Changed only tyres and regular services)

Looking forward for all you suggestions and help at the earliest.

Pradeep

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Replace spark plug with NGK CR7HSA and the plug cap with OE one (of the same type that came with your bike) .
After this check all the regular service items with your bike is okay - like oil level , carburetor clean & tuned correctly , airfilter foams intact, cleaned & oiled , ignition coil & wiring in good condition etc etc . Considering the high mileage of your bike it deserves a good checkup .
I don't get what your mechanic means by that , because oil is supposed to reach engine head for normal operation .