Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Ordered this on Amazon a week back. Arrived today. Gonna use it on my Splendor Pro. Frequent rains and water seeping has ruined the handle lock and the previous owner didn't give me a spare key to use in case of emergency, so I thought it'd be a nice move to change the lock set all total. The cost is way less than the stock Hero locks and the MINDA quality seems better.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

holding the handlelock keyhole shutter open with a thin screwdriver ( or something similar ) I dribble some sewing machine oil or spray wd40 into the lock once in a while , and that keeps it working smooth even during rains .
Yes , Minda products are really good quality . This lock-set does not include the helmet-lock ?

The steering bearings needs periodic lubrication ( clean , grease and new bearing-balls ) and tightening , without which they'll fail early . If the bearing races run dry they become scored or even broken . I have used bajaj's bearing-balls ( very cheap ) because during opening mechanic will invariably drop and lose the old balls . Twice done in 8 years and still running fine on the original races ( my bike is also 2010 model ).
What's a chassis bush ? do you mean swing-arm bush ? As for the rear wheel problem, check the wheel bearings on both wheels , replace if any play or roughness in them .
You can try AdonP ( available at IOC pumps in 9 Rs pouch ) with petrol , I am using it regularly , it's really good . The stuff is made by Total of France . I can say this because I clean the carb by myself at least once a year , and since using adonp I find it very clean inside everytime I open it, and jets do not clog up as easily as before . My Splendor+'s idle-jet had a tendency to clog .

Need to take into consideration the time also for oil change . I'm sure everyone has read the owner's manual , but the general recommendation for motorcycles is 3000 km or six months , whichever occurs earlier . I usually drain oil in 2000 kms because by that time it's been nearly six months for my bike . My bike loves fresh oil . Motul 3000 4T+ and Gulf synth 4T are the best oils I have used on this bike until now . Presently am running on Valvoline champion 4T 10w30 , which is kinda so-so , not the best .
Air filter ( foam ) is to be cleaned with kerosene and soaked in 90 gear-oil and then squeezed almost dry before fitting .
I cannot agree with on the carb . At least on my bike the carb NEEDS to be cleaned ( mostly just the idle jet ) at least once a year .
Oil drain nut on Splendor is 17 mm , not 12 . A 16-17 ring spanner is good investment for this bike , 17mm for the oil-drain nut and the 16mm end for spark plug . Good practice to replace the aluminum crush-washer often , the OE ones are Rs 5 apiece .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

The helmet lock is a part of the set but it's not given in the picture. My bike surprisingly didn't have a helmet lock though.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

I would rather suggest '6 Point' box spanner sockets to do the job, reason being ring spanners are not available in '6 point' option and hence they have a tendency to deform bolt heads, especially the ones made of aluminium.

Here's an example of what might happen;



Here's a picture of a '6 Point' 17mm box socket;



If you don't wish to invest in tools it is fine because the stock tool kit comes with a '6 Point' dual head tool which can be used to take out the spark plug with one end and remove the drain bolt with the other.

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some 6-point ring-spanners are also made , only not in our country . Yes , 6-point technically has superior grip undoubtedly , but there is a big debate whether it makes a significant difference in practical automotive & mechanical work . 12-point double-end ring spanners have been use for ages and preferred by mechanics because it has advantage of 12 angles of engagement ( rather than the 6 ) and requires less effort in use . I have never found anything wanting with the grip of a well made 12-point double-end ring spanner . Never has one slipped on a nut in my hands . The advantage of 6-points seems more or less theoretical to me .
As for sockets and handles , I have tried using them for servicing this bike and always found disadvantage . Like the big rear wheel nut on the right side cannot be engaged by socket because of lack of space , and an open spanner has insufficient torque , you'll HAVE to use 19mm ring spanner for it . Like the spark-plug cannot be engaged with a normal 16mm socket , you's require an expensive special 16mm "spark-plug" socket for it ( taparia makes one ) . The spark-plug socket that comes in the bike's toolkit is the worse , only to be used in an emergency . Likewise there are many important fasteners on this bike that calls specifically for a ring/open spanner , and sockets won't do for them . So rather than a mixed set of tools , I ( like the mechanics ) keep just a few essential double-end 12-point ring-spanners and a full set of open spanners

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

True that a 12 point might suffice in most cases but the challenges that I see is material density and deterioration like aluminium cover bolts etc, and smaller sized bolts and nuts have a higher chance of deformation.

Hence why for small hard to get bolts and nuts I have a long-reach 6 point box kit which is better at undoing bleeders than a ring spanner, have deformed many to risk any more. Long reach axle box kits are also available and can be bought per piece, one time investment and easier to carry under the seat, will post a picture when I get back home.

As for spark plug I insert the stock tool over the plug and then use a box spanner on the other end, gets the job done with the least hassle, especially considering that Pulsar plugs are hard to reach due to them being inside a sleeve, even in the case of other Motorcycles the leverage helps avoid any mishaps to self or cooling fins in the event of a slip. The stock tool costs peanuts and the ones provided along with Bajaj motorcycles are of a better make than the ones that came with my ZMA, though for some reason Bajaj completely ignored to add the suspension adjustment tool.

Again this is a subjective practice, I might be deforming more bolts due to my inexperience and lack of patience to use penetrative oils, or thread lock fetish.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Cannot say for other bikes , I've only tinkered with small-capacity yamahas, a tvs max and star-city and this splendor+ I have now . For the splendor's spark plug and oil-drain nut I can confidently say that the double-end 16-17 ring-spanner is by far the best tool , and I have tried all else . Am sure you'll agree if you practically test this out . The tubular plug socket that comes in the splendor's tool-kit has loose grip and rounds off the corners of hex-nut on the plug ( I have tried another one from another splendor too , same problem ) . it'll however do the job in an road exigency . Yamaha's tool-kits were much better , still have some of them .
Other than this the second most used spanner on splendor is the 10-12 open spanner . taparia makes this odd combinations like 10-12 , 14-17 etc which matches the splendor's OE toolkit sizes . taparia's open spanners are excellent for small nuts , tight fit and zero wiggle , never slips . I was quite surprised with it's grip when I got the small taparia 10-12mm open spanner . Previously I had some other brand 10mm ones in open , combination and double-end ring types . But this new small beauty is now a favorite . Sorry for ranting , like many of you here , I have an emotional attachment to my tools

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Rode to hometown from workplace. (from Dindigul to Kanyakumari), It was a 4 days trip. Clicked very few pictures as i have traveled this route n number of times. Will post some pictures tomorrow. Rode 735 kms in 4 days.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Thanks Pinaki Sir for the reply. Yes, i am asking about the swingarm bush. Wheel bearings were checked , they are good. Mechanic said that swingarm bushes need to be replaced. So I was wondering if something like Sibun sir using old bushes with new bushes in his Xtreme can be done for my bike as well. Or if there is any other better solution ?

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If they need to be changed , just change them . Use OE parts from Hero for this , no problem in it . Also the bush set is not costly , but being a laborious job mechanic may ask more labour charge than the actual parts - that's quite justified too .
Periodic lubrication may prolong their life but I don't know of an easy way to lube the swingarm bush on this bike . Myself am waiting for the rains to pass to lubricate them on my bike soon . If anyone knows of a shortcut way of doing this , please help .

even a few pics is worth waiting for . I am also living away form home now for job , so I know it is a great feeling to ride back home everytime , even after many such trips .

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Pinaki ji , the bush can be lubricated by using grease . we need to remove only axil ,chain covers and magnet cover. Also OE bush set cost lessthan rs 100 .

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Is there any way of getting the Alloys from Hero Xtreme 2013/14 models to fit into the Splendor Pro? Both are 18 inch wheels and the ones on Xtreme seem more rigid and lighter. Plus, my local mechanic took them off an Xtreme whom he changed to spoke wheels for the user. Getting those at a good price. Let me know guys. Really excited to get these to fit.

Also, I'm looking to decrease the weight of the bike. It's too small for me and the power to weight ratio doesn't feel proper like that of Livo, Dream DX or even the regular splendor+. I'm using the outgoing 2015 model and the kerb weight is about 116kgs. I'm an average rider of 60kg in weight and about 5'8 in height. I would like to make the bike more flickable. Any good non functional parts that I could get rid of to decrease some weight? What I had in mind:

1. Removing the side box
2. Removing the starter motor (needs some repair work, I can live without it with a kick)
3. Removing the utility box (never had a use for it)
4. Changing the alloys with that of the spoke ones from my CD100 and vice versa. Opinions?

What else should I do?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

If you do not carry a pillion at all, you could remove the grab rail and the saree guard.

Then there's the chain cover, though I suspect you'll want to keep that as it is very functional.

You could try a battery delete as well (ashwinprakas has described it in detail in the DIY section) since you're fine with only kick start.

I don't know whether the headlight unit will be heavier than a round dome, maybe this could help reduce weight.

Also the alloys I think will be lighter, although the ones from Xtreme are wider and will have a disc to take care of as well.

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I think I'll keep he chain cover. I carry a pillion every now and then. I'll keep the saree guard but might just do away with the luggage carrier. Gonna replace it with the grab rails from Dawn or Deluxe. The dome headlight doesn't seem that much of heavy tbh. Since the Xtreme wheels won't fit, I might just go for a spoke replacement from the other bike I own.

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Very much agree with you , no way a 97.2cc bike should weight 110 Kgs with todays modern materials and tech .
I feel that Splendor badly needs a proper upgrade , and I'd love to see at least 30% reduction in weight , fuel-injection , a better 130mm brake on rear wheels , a better headlamp , LEDs on all the meter-panel lights / tail-light / brake-light / turn-indicators , a more modern battery etc etc . But very unfortunately Hero is not going for such useful upgrades anywhere . Only some cosmetic "upgrades" and new names every year from them , pretty disappointing . When they separated from Honda, Hero had promised a slew of new innovative technologies - but nothing has happened in years . They are playing safe just keeping-up with market demand & reaping profits from their earlier tie-up , instead of investing on research & new innovations . Even the most beautiful colours of the Splendor is no longer in production ! Yamaha on the other hand has taken up weight-reduction and all their models now are 10-20% lighter and consequently their fuel-mileage has also increased significantly . Their 150cc R15S is now only 134kgs and 250cc FZ25 is 148kgs , ( with full fuel, oil & coolant i.e kerb weight ) .
which axle ? From what I can see - the rear wheel , brake assembly , rear sprocket carrier , magnet-cover , chain covers has to be removed . Additionally the silencer , pillion step-brackets on both sides , both rear shockers may need to be removed too , I felt . Pulling out the swing-arm axle/shaft without removing the rear wheel will cause big problem because the weight of the whole rear wheel is still on it .