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  • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

    Originally posted by TranquilRage
    Out of topic - I remember in school, my friends used to put in Rs.5 worth of oil when they would put Rs.50 of petrol in their scooters. Why was that? Just mixing a little cheaper 'fuel'? Or something to do with lubrication or combustion?
    Mixing oil with petrol in the tank itself is done for two stroke IC engines eg. Chetak, Rx100 etc.

    And it is not used for combustion as cheaper fuel...... It is for Lubrication!! You must have noticed white smoke out of RX 100.... this is because oil getting burned.
    Last edited by prashant_m; 09-18-2013, 12:14 PM.

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    • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

      Originally posted by TranquilRage
      Wax, sandpaper, WD-40 definitely going to pick up. Do enlignten in more detail about the sprays/oils, though I know you already mentioned in your last post.
      Maybe you could check if the disc oil is at optimum level.

      Originally posted by TranquilRage
      Worn out disc pad should be unlikely in a new bike.
      Exactly and hence I did recommend change of it.

      Originally posted by TranquilRage
      Also, I clean the mud out thoroughly.
      If you do it without a pressure wash, hope you remove the caliper and then wash it? Ensure to clean the holes in disc plate also and then sand the plate and pads.
      My DIY(s) - Sprocket bearing change | Paint job | Custom speedo dial

      Getting angry at somebody is the same as getting angry with a bike that just won't go. You should stop and start thinking.
      A good mechanic will let you watch even without charging you for it. |
      It is funny to know that we've been imitated and copied so well
      and surprising when we notice our mistakes are copied as well.

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      • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

        Originally posted by TwilightRider View Post
        Disaster strikes my poor T'bird!!!
        Not even 10 days after taking delivery, and a Rust like formation on the joint where the exhust pipe joins the muffler... Pics attached...
        Never expected this kind of quality issues from RE... Have to get it fixed during first service...

        [ATTACH=CONFIG]116883[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]116884[/ATTACH]
        Chromium is a metal and it doesn't rust, and is opaque - that's what you see. The chrome's oxide layer is clear. So, you have this (crude diagram):


        ************** Air **************
        --------- Chrome Oxide (Clear) ---------
        ------- Chrome (Metallic, Shiny) -------
        -- Base Metal (Won't see this anymore)

        Once a chromium finish is applied oxidation cannot form or continue as active because there is no oxygen to feed the reaction.
        One scratch or surface blemish that penetrates the chromium surface and allows oxygen to the surface metal and rust can and will form not only at the surface break but it can continue to consume the base metal under the chrome finish.

        So the thing you see in the above pics are definitely not rust as chrome do not rust. And i would not recommend using sand paper as you will be losing protective coating the chrome provides. You can go ahead and get rid of all iron oxides/rust( looks red/maroon). Only Aluminium rusts like the way you see in the pictures with white stains.

        I don't know the exact solution to the problem but i hope this may help.
        [MENTION=61439]TranquilRage[/MENTION]- I read your ownership experience and I feel after you had done Anti-rust treatment you should kept it till monsoon ends. As our mothers say.... best way to avoid rust is avoid contact with water .

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        • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

          Originally posted by TranquilRage
          Out of topic - I remember in school, my friends used to put in Rs.5 worth of oil when they would put Rs.50 of petrol in their scooters. Why was that? Just mixing a little cheaper 'fuel'? Or something to do with lubrication or combustion?
          I guess it must have been a 2 stroke bike/scooter. The oil is mixed with petrol in 2 strokes.

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          • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

            Originally posted by TranquilRage
            Thanks bud! Will fix it for sure. Do let me know what you use for the chain & lever lubrication. WD-40 is mainly for preventing and loosening up rust, right?
            Yes mate! WD-40 is for removing rust, tar and also a lubricant. As for chain lubrication you can use Wurth or cyclo chain spray that is available at most shell fuel stations.
            My DIY(s) - Sprocket bearing change | Paint job | Custom speedo dial

            Getting angry at somebody is the same as getting angry with a bike that just won't go. You should stop and start thinking.
            A good mechanic will let you watch even without charging you for it. |
            It is funny to know that we've been imitated and copied so well
            and surprising when we notice our mistakes are copied as well.

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            • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

              Hello All,
              Have been pretty busy the last week... so could not post my replies
              Thanks for the inputs. I will do what is needed.
              My T'bird finished her first tankful today, and has given 35 KMPL!!! I think for a new bike, this is pretty good

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              • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

                ***Need inputs in RE TB 2004 model***

                Is it twinspark or not?
                A friend says it can start without battery as well?
                What are the common known issues in this model?
                Are input on spares?
                What could be best price offered for this model considering it is single owner and 14k kms clocked

                Please pour in suggestions!
                My DIY(s) - Sprocket bearing change | Paint job | Custom speedo dial

                Getting angry at somebody is the same as getting angry with a bike that just won't go. You should stop and start thinking.
                A good mechanic will let you watch even without charging you for it. |
                It is funny to know that we've been imitated and copied so well
                and surprising when we notice our mistakes are copied as well.

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                • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

                  Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post
                  ***Need inputs in RE TB 2004 model***

                  Is it twinspark or not?
                  A friend says it can start without battery as well?
                  What are the common known issues in this model?
                  Are input on spares?
                  What could be best price offered for this model considering it is single owner and 14k kms clocked

                  Please pour in suggestions!
                  If it is RETB 2004 model the definitely it must have AVL (aluminum engine) engine and it is not twinspark.

                  Common know issues -- to be honest I am not much aware about it, but know one thing AVL engine Bulls have solid tappets (unlike hydraulic tappets in new UCE bullets) and solid tappets require periodic checking/tightening/loosening and it won't guarantee that tappets are adjusted well as you see it has to be adjusted manually, and a badly adjusted tappet means not so ideal opening and closing of two valves. You might have to run to mechanic often for getting it adjusted, especially if ridden hard.
                  Rest I am not aware much but I do know the pros and cons of all three engines to some extent.

                  Spares-- AVL no more into production, so spares very specific to it might be little difficult to get. But still since Bullet uses very simple machinery, so shouldn't be too difficult either but at any given day spares of UCE would be easier to get for one simple reason, this is the Bullet which is being produced now.

                  Best price -- Since CI Bullets are kind of vintage thing, so they are sold really costly but AVL I think anything between 50-60K for 14K odo reading shouldn't be a bad deal, unless the bike needs no more heavy work after that

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                  • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

                    Originally posted by gyan_recl350 View Post
                    If it is RETB 2004 model the definitely it must have AVL (aluminum engine) engine and it is not twinspark.

                    Common know issues -- to be honest I am not much aware about it, but know one thing AVL engine Bulls have solid tappets (unlike hydraulic tappets in new UCE bullets) and solid tappets require periodic checking/tightening/loosening and it won't guarantee that tappets are adjusted well as you see it has to be adjusted manually, and a badly adjusted tappet means not so ideal opening and closing of two valves. You might have to run to mechanic often for getting it adjusted, especially if ridden hard.
                    Rest I am not aware much but I do know the pros and cons of all three engines to some extent.

                    Spares-- AVL no more into production, so spares very specific to it might be little difficult to get. But still since Bullet uses very simple machinery, so shouldn't be too difficult either but at any given day spares of UCE would be easier to get for one simple reason, this is the Bullet which is being produced now.

                    Best price -- Since CI Bullets are kind of vintage thing, so they are sold really costly but AVL I think anything between 50-60K for 14K odo reading shouldn't be a bad deal, unless the bike needs no more heavy work after that
                    Hey...thank you very much for the timely help. I read your reply in my email but was unable to respond immediately. You see, my kid was trying to learn the phone mechanism while I was asleep and she somehow managed to tear it apart. I was wondering how the phone looked inside like the board and all. My long time has been fulfilled by my daughter .

                    Anyways, your feedback really helped and I was able to check on the '04 bull and found that not worthy enough.
                    I am now keeping fingers crossed on a 2006 model TB @ 63k. I've asked for 45k (greedy eh???). He has taken time until Thursday. If god permits, I should be able to get my hands on it by Friday max.

                    There is this weird noise on the top part of the head - guess it is tappets or cam adjustment. Most of the bullets that I visited in the past 3 days use free flow silencer for added thump. I just hope this does not take a toll on mileage et al.

                    1. I'd like the original TB silencer. Wonder how much would that be?
                    2. Have you come across somebody who have rebuilt the engine of RE TB? How much does the rebuild conclude to mate?
                    3. Can you point me to service/workshop/owner manual and technical specification for a 2006 TB please?

                    Sincere thanks for your time and responses!
                    Last edited by petrolhead_chn; 10-01-2013, 08:08 AM.
                    My DIY(s) - Sprocket bearing change | Paint job | Custom speedo dial

                    Getting angry at somebody is the same as getting angry with a bike that just won't go. You should stop and start thinking.
                    A good mechanic will let you watch even without charging you for it. |
                    It is funny to know that we've been imitated and copied so well
                    and surprising when we notice our mistakes are copied as well.

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                    • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

                      Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post
                      Hey...thank you very much for the timely help. I read your reply in my email but was unable to respond immediately. You see, my kid was trying to learn the phone mechanism while I was asleep and she somehow managed to tear it apart. I was wondering how the phone looked inside like the board and all. My long time has been fulfilled by my daughter .

                      Anyways, your feedback really helped and I was able to check on the '04 bull and found that not worthy enough.
                      I am now keeping fingers crossed on a 2006 model TB @ 63k. I've asked for 45k (greedy eh???). He has taken time until Thursday. If god permits, I should be able to get my hands on it by Friday max.

                      There is this weird noise on the top part of the head - guess it is tappets or cam adjustment. Most of the bullets that I visited in the past 3 days use free flow silencer for added thump. I just hope this does not take a toll on mileage et al.

                      1. I'd like the original TB silencer. Wonder how much would that be?
                      2. Have you come across somebody who have rebuilt the engine of RE TB? How much does the rebuild conclude to mate?
                      3. Can you point me to service/workshop/owner manual and technical specification for a 2006 TB please?

                      Sincere thanks for your time and responses!
                      Welcome friend.
                      Now your one wish got fulfilled by your daughter and the second awaits

                      1. You could get that for around 3k I guess but if you are really keen on changing the silencer then better get a short bottle Indori which has three baffles inside. Beautiful thump and not free flow, doesn't effect mileage either. A good ine here in Bangalore cost just 1200 rs.

                      2. Not come across anyone as such

                      3. Service manual and technical specification surely I would share with you if I happen to get

                      BTW: This TB must be an AVL one right?

                      Sent from my X10i using xBhp Connect mobile app

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                      • Re: Royal Enfield Thunderbird 350 Owners Experiences

                        Originally posted by gyan_recl350 View Post
                        This TB must be an AVL one right?
                        Yes it is! The bike does need some plating here and there or even replacement. Waiting until Thursday.
                        My DIY(s) - Sprocket bearing change | Paint job | Custom speedo dial

                        Getting angry at somebody is the same as getting angry with a bike that just won't go. You should stop and start thinking.
                        A good mechanic will let you watch even without charging you for it. |
                        It is funny to know that we've been imitated and copied so well
                        and surprising when we notice our mistakes are copied as well.

                        Comment


                        • Rear Gas Shock Absorbers

                          I own April 2012 Thunderbird and have done 14500 kms so far. Last 200-300 kms, the rear gas shock absorbers seem to have given up and the rear tyre seems to touch the mudguard at each major speed breaker. Is it because it has lost the gas or I need to change the same? Has anybody faced with similar problems? How long should the rear shock absorber last?

                          Also the drain nut seems to leak the oil as the threads have taken a hit. As per the Authorized service center, this can be rectified by refilling and rethreading. Again has this been done by anyone? what can be the remedy?

                          take care and ride safely

                          Rajesh Kavthekar

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                          • Re: Rear Gas Shock Absorbers

                            Went for my first long drive on mt T'bird to Nandi Hills last weekend to quickly munch up the miles to 500KM
                            The first service is done at 600 KM (Yeah its more, but could'nt just stop the bike at Nandi Hills after it reached 500 KM right )
                            After the service, the bike's performance and rhythm has changed completely!! It feels far more refined now, and gearshifts are very precise.
                            I have one question, though... the fuel meter shows very erratic readings. At one moment, it shows lot of fuel is there, and a minute later, it drops to just one bar!!
                            Is there something wrong with the fuel sensor, or is this an issue I have to live with??

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                            • Re: Rear Gas Shock Absorbers

                              Originally posted by TwilightRider View Post
                              Went for my first long drive on mt T'bird to Nandi Hills last weekend to quickly munch up the miles to 500KM
                              The first service is done at 600 KM (Yeah its more, but could'nt just stop the bike at Nandi Hills after it reached 500 KM right )
                              After the service, the bike's performance and rhythm has changed completely!! It feels far more refined now, and gearshifts are very precise.
                              I have one question, though... the fuel meter shows very erratic readings. At one moment, it shows lot of fuel is there, and a minute later, it drops to just one bar!!
                              Is there something wrong with the fuel sensor, or is this an issue I have to live with??
                              You will have to live with it brother. Ask anyone who has the new TB.... everyone has this same problem...

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                              • Re: Rear Gas Shock Absorbers

                                Originally posted by rkavthekar View Post
                                I own April 2012 Thunderbird and have done 14500 kms so far. Last 200-300 kms, the rear gas shock absorbers seem to have given up and the rear tyre seems to touch the mudguard at each major speed breaker. Is it because it has lost the gas or I need to change the same? Has anybody faced with similar problems? How long should the rear shock absorber last?

                                Also the drain nut seems to leak the oil as the threads have taken a hit. As per the Authorized service center, this can be rectified by refilling and rethreading. Again has this been done by anyone? what can be the remedy?

                                take care and ride safely

                                Rajesh Kavthekar
                                Hi Rajesh,
                                I had seen in other forums regarding your issue about the tyre touching the mudguard. I think the problem might be that in order to tighten the chain, the mechanic has increased the rear wheel's position. You can get it checked, and if it does'nt work out, you can get the mudguard bent outwards so that the tyre won't touch it again (this was the solution in the other forum... not my personal opinion )
                                And regarding the drain nut, the mechanics sometimes force tighten the nut, which results in the thread to wear out. The only solution is rethreading, but this may lead to further issues. Please take care and check the work before you confirm.

                                -Regards,
                                Sudhir MK

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