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  • Hey Guys,
    Was just wondering how many cornering junkies are on ZMR Thread. Anyone got Knee Down on a ZMR ?
    If yes, Post pics please. Having hard time in sitting position and stuff .
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    • Originally posted by RedFlash View Post
      Hey Guys,
      Was just wondering how many cornering junkies are on ZMR Thread. Anyone got Knee Down on a ZMR ?
      If yes, Post pics please. Having hard time in sitting position and stuff .
      I am one of the corner crazies over here..I think I might have leaned till I can touch the knee, my style I wont keep my knee out... howere no pictures what so ever...

      Tried pictures of cornering once and BHAM ended up on pavment will search my acrchives if I can find any and post!!!
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      • Originally posted by RedFlash View Post
        Hey Guys,
        Was just wondering how many cornering junkies are on ZMR Thread. Anyone got Knee Down on a ZMR ?
        If yes, Post pics please. Having hard time in sitting position and stuff .
        I am not a cornering junkie but my foot-pegs touched while i was driving from mumbai to gorai.
        It just happened.

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        • ^^^^

          Watch out, thats another flaw I noticed with Karizma's, even a small corner is enough for the footpegs to touch the ground, its cool and all, but the thing to notice is that if you're not wearing proper shoes then you can loose a lot of skin, the tip of my sandals are missing cause of that.

          And to avoid spills while cornering, its always best to scrub the tyre before taking it out for practice,or just riding and warming it up will also do the job. The stock tyres got alot of potential, its just that people dont realize it.
          Motorcycling Experience:
          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

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          • Originally posted by ahmedraza View Post
            I am not a cornering junkie but my foot-pegs touched while i was driving from mumbai to gorai.
            It just happened.
            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            ^^^^

            Watch out, thats another flaw I noticed with Karizma's, even a small corner is enough for the footpegs to touch the ground, its cool and all, but the thing to notice is that if you're not wearing proper shoes then you can loose a lot of skin, the tip of my sandals are missing cause of that.

            And to avoid spills while cornering, its always best to scrub the tyre before taking it out for practice,or just riding and warming it up will also do the job. The stock tyres got alot of potential, its just that people dont realize it.
            If your footpegs are touching it simply means your cornering method is wrong.... in actual cornering your footpegs dont touch the ground... i have seen a RE corner like hell so please dont say footpegs have to touch... if your lean angle and body weight is correct footpegs will NEVER touch the ground...

            As far as cornering... i am not a cornering junkie but from what i have done at Lavasa and Amby valley i can say that ZMR corners decently... certainly not like Apache or R15.... because of the weight, the sitting position and the overall bike dynamics.. ZMR is not meant to corner... this doesnt means it CANT corner... it can but with limitations....

            Dont wish to sound arogant or expert but wanted to be point blank so that no misinterpretations stem out... sorry if anyone feels offended...
            Last edited by siddharth_ZMR; 01-05-2012, 01:44 AM.
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            • A link to one of the most happening threads as far as i know is dedicated to topic of cornering... we all newbies in cornering can learn a lot from it... http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...ed-debate.html
              WARNING!! Objects seen in Mirror are Disappearing Rapidly!!!!!!

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              • I have cornered my ZMR without any problem whatsoever, and I do it all the time. This bike has a superior handling characteristic, but certainly different from the other track bikes like the R1, ZX, CBR etc..

                All you need to do is to learn how to corner this bike in a proper way. Then you will see the difference. I have a whole lot of experience in every kind of tracks, with a number of bikes, all of them behave a different ways specific to the model. So this is not supermoto style cornering with one foot out nor track style cornering with knee out, it is just the rider needs to lean rather than leaning the bike, then the bike will follow the rider to some extent. With ZMR it is about 40 degree angle from the ground before the bank angle sensor kicks in, but in that angle bike is stable, and you can lean further more to touch the ground with your knee easily..

                So first lean yourself, not the bike, this is the proper way of leaning ZMR, I have tried and tested quite a lot of times, all of them were successful, and I am amazed by the stabilty and control it provides apart being a heavy street bike(I am not going to the detailed explanations of the chassies, shocks, weight distribution and the swing arm of the ZMR here right now)..

                Needless to remember, do wear proper riding gear, and watch out the main stand touching the ground(rarely happens though) also importantly, experience counts more than anything else. Happy cornering guys..

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                • Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                  If your footpegs are touching it simply means your cornering method is wrong.... in actual cornering your footpegs dont touch the ground... i have seen a RE corner like hell so please dont say footpegs have to touch... if your lean angle and body weight is correct footpegs will NEVER touch the ground...

                  I know, its all about smooth throttling and suspension control, but thats applicable only for tracks and highways, when we enter smaller roads, and tighter corners, then its pointless, no matter how much throttle control, you're foot pegs are bound to scrape or you're going head on into the vehicle coming from the opposite lane.

                  As far as cornering... i am not a cornering junkie but from what i have done at Lavasa and Amby valley i can say that ZMR corners decently... certainly not like Apache or R15.... because of the weight, the sitting position and the overall bike dynamics.. ZMR is not meant to corner... this doesnt means it CANT corner... it can but with limitations....

                  I read a track log sometime back, and it was reported that after the R15, Karizma's the next when it comes to handling and maneuverability.

                  Dont wish to sound arogant or expert but wanted to be point blank so that no misinterpretations stem out... sorry if anyone feels offended...
                  Replies in BOLD.
                  Motorcycling Experience:
                  2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                  2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                  2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                  2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                  2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                  2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                  The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                  Adios Comrades!
                  A.P. 2018

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                  • Originally posted by Dan_GP View Post
                    All you need to do is to learn how to corner this bike in a proper way. Then you will see the difference. I have a whole lot of experience in every kind of tracks, with a number of bikes, all of them behave a different ways specific to the model. So this is not supermoto style cornering with one foot out nor track style cornering with knee out, it is just the rider needs to lean rather than leaning the bike, then the bike will follow the rider to some extent. With ZMR it is about 40 degree angle from the ground before the bank angle sensor kicks in, but in that angle bike is stable, and you can lean further more to touch the ground with your knee easily..

                    So first lean yourself, not the bike, this is the proper way of leaning ZMR, I have tried and tested quite a lot of times, all of them were successful,
                    I completely agree with your each sentence.... thanks for sharing this method of cornering..
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                    • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                      Replies in BOLD.
                      I still dont agree.. Lavasa, Amby valley and Ambaghat are not tracks or highways... they are roads in excellent condition with loads of twisties but without any divider so issue of incoming traffic or for that matter tight corners do exist but still no footpeg scrapping... i am not able to comprehend how one can go stably through a corner if the footpeg starts scrapping.... wont it spoil the flow and stability of the bike?

                      Sorry but i dont agree to footpeg scrapping as a acceptable part of cornering at least on ZMR.... rest depends on the rider and his feel of the bike.... Happy Cornering with safety gear!!!
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                      • Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                        If your footpegs are touching it simply means your cornering method is wrong.... in actual cornering your footpegs dont touch the ground... i have seen a RE corner like hell so please dont say footpegs have to touch... if your lean angle and body weight is correct footpegs will NEVER touch the ground...

                        As far as cornering... i am not a cornering junkie but from what i have done at Lavasa and Amby valley i can say that ZMR corners decently... certainly not like Apache or R15.... because of the weight, the sitting position and the overall bike dynamics.. ZMR is not meant to corner... this doesnt means it CANT corner... it can but with limitations....

                        Dont wish to sound arogant or expert but wanted to be point blank so that no misinterpretations stem out... sorry if anyone feels offended...
                        I am not into much of biking stuff but as far as i know & as i have seen. Even the R15 has some conical like screws on its foot-peg's which goes in when they touch the ground.
                        In R15 the action is very smooth so u hardly notice it but after you do corner it to lil over its limit u will notice some scratches on it(if its your 1st time)
                        In other Bikes like ZMR you notice this.
                        You cant judge wot is write or wrong. People Like us get happy when our foot-peg's touch.
                        After all happiness n safety is wot we all agree on.

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                        • ^^^

                          While riding you wont notice it, if you're wearing shoes, with sandals you'll surely notice it since after the sandal tips wear of its you'r toes that's going to do the scraping.

                          Both ZMA/ZMR has that conical thingi at the end of the footpeg, its designed to encounter such instances.

                          It doesnt in anyway interfere with riding flow, i.e if you follow the right procedure of keeping the ball of the foot on the footpegs, else you'll be irritated when you're toes start scraping.
                          Motorcycling Experience:
                          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                          Adios Comrades!
                          A.P. 2018

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                          • Originally posted by ahmedraza View Post
                            I am not a cornering junkie but my foot-pegs touched while i was driving from mumbai to gorai.
                            It just happened.
                            It is WRONG method of cornering as far as I know.

                            Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                            If your footpegs are touching it simply means your cornering method is wrong.... in actual cornering your footpegs dont touch the ground... i have seen a RE corner like hell so please dont say footpegs have to touch... if your lean angle and body weight is correct footpegs will NEVER touch the ground...

                            As far as cornering... i am not a cornering junkie but from what i have done at Lavasa and Amby valley i can say that ZMR corners decently... certainly not like Apache or R15.... because of the weight, the sitting position and the overall bike dynamics.. ZMR is not meant to corner... this doesnt means it CANT corner... it can but with limitations....

                            Dont wish to sound arogant or expert but wanted to be point blank so that no misinterpretations stem out... sorry if anyone feels offended...
                            Bang on !
                            I've exactly same thoughts, just posted querry here to see if anyone is experienced enough to knee down like R15 on a ZMR.

                            Originally posted by Dan_GP View Post
                            I have cornered my ZMR without any problem whatsoever, and I do it all the time. This bike has a superior handling characteristic, but certainly different from the other track bikes like the R1, ZX, CBR etc..

                            All you need to do is to learn how to corner this bike in a proper way. Then you will see the difference. I have a whole lot of experience in every kind of tracks, with a number of bikes, all of them behave a different ways specific to the model. So this is not supermoto style cornering with one foot out nor track style cornering with knee out, it is just the rider needs to lean rather than leaning the bike, then the bike will follow the rider to some extent. With ZMR it is about 40 degree angle from the ground before the bank angle sensor kicks in, but in that angle bike is stable, and you can lean further more to touch the ground with your knee easily..

                            So first lean yourself, not the bike, this is the proper way of leaning ZMR, I have tried and tested quite a lot of times, all of them were successful, and I am amazed by the stabilty and control it provides apart being a heavy street bike(I am not going to the detailed explanations of the chassies, shocks, weight distribution and the swing arm of the ZMR here right now)..

                            Needless to remember, do wear proper riding gear, and watch out the main stand touching the ground(rarely happens though) also importantly, experience counts more than anything else. Happy cornering guys..
                            Thanks for the tips !
                            Happy Cornering !

                            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                            ^^^

                            While riding you wont notice it, if you're wearing shoes, with sandals you'll surely notice it since after the sandal tips wear of its you'r toes that's going to do the scraping.

                            Both ZMA/ZMR has that conical thingi at the end of the footpeg, its designed to encounter such instances.

                            It doesnt in anyway interfere with riding flow, i.e if you follow the right procedure of keeping the ball of the foot on the footpegs, else you'll be irritated when you're toes start scraping.
                            P.S. Scrapping Footpegs - Good Idea or Bad - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

                            No more footpeg scrapping discussion over here PLEASE.
                            It'll just confuse people.

                            Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                            A link to one of the most happening threads as far as i know is dedicated to topic of cornering... we all newbies in cornering can learn a lot from it... http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/pit-stop...ed-debate.html
                            P.S. That one is for cornering.
                            Last edited by RedFlash; 01-05-2012, 12:21 PM.
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                            • Originally posted by RedFlash View Post
                              No more footpeg scrapping discussion over here PLEASE.
                              It'll just confuse people.
                              Oops, sorry.
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Oops, sorry.
                                No need to be sorry bro. Just avoid any further discussion. .

                                Happy Cornering .
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