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**Divya Sharan** · 03-06-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by xwarrior View Post

But am not sure whether it is original.Bit afraid since there are fake engine oils.If you can post a picture of the bottle it would be better sir.Also, I have put just one bottle oil (1l) to my zmr.Is that 1l sufficient???

Never heard of Mobil1 fakes in the market yet. Its a silver bottle with silver cap, but the dealer said it also comes in dark grey bottles in North India. Verified his claims on a few websites and it seems he was right.

1 L is 'just' sufficient for oil changes. Keep checking the dipstick in due course of time.

P.S - Kindly don't call me sir. Call me Divya.

**Praj zm** · 03-06-2013, 11:00 AM

hello zmrians
i replaced the battery to a new exide vrla z7 and it costed me 1.5k.
i have a query regarding the brake oil, i searched for the dot 4 brake oil but it is not avaiolable anywhere , is it okay to use dot 3 and mix it with the already filled dot 4 brake oil?
and about the tire, i have zeroed down to michelin sirac , he is quoting 2.2k and he will make it tubeless it seems so is there any drawback if changing it from tube type to tubeless and also can you guys suggest me if the price quoted is right

**Divya Sharan** · 03-06-2013, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

hello zmrians
i replaced the battery to a new exide vrla z7 and it costed me 1.5k.
i have a query regarding the brake oil, i searched for the dot 4 brake oil but it is not avaiolable anywhere , is it okay to use dot 3 and mix it with the already filled dot 4 brake oil?
and about the tire, i have zeroed down to michelin sirac , he is quoting 2.2k and he will make it tubeless it seems so is there any drawback if changing it from tube type to tubeless and also can you guys suggest me if the price quoted is right

Don't mix DOT3 and DOT4. If you're getting DOT3, pour in DOT3 completely after bleeding out DOT4. You can get DOT4 brake oil at TVS SVCs. Also, you can order them online.
Regarding Michelin TT tire, go for it. Its a good buy. And trust me, no mechanic can convert a TT tire to a TL tire.

What he meant was that, he'll put Michelin Sirac without a tube, but that's not advised. Its a TT tire, use it with a tube.

P.S - There are riders who're using it as a TL tire, but that risk isn't worth taking.

**Praj zm** · 03-06-2013, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Don't mix DOT3 and DOT4. If you're getting DOT3, pour in DOT3 completely after bleeding out DOT4. You can get DOT4 brake oil at TVS SVCs. Also, you can order them online.
Regarding Michelin TT tire, go for it. Its a good buy. And trust me, no mechanic can convert a TT tire to a TL tire.

What he meant was that, he'll put Michelin Sirac without a tube, but that's not advised. Its a TT tire, use it with a tube.

P.S - There are riders who're using it as a TL tire, but that risk isn't worth taking.

but are you sure the bike in stock would have had dot4 oil, please confirm.
and i can not risk putting a tube tire as i tour a lot so i guess it is a bad idea going for michelin sirac then
are there any riders who are using michelin sirac tubeless and faced problems here ??

**satyajitrc** · 03-06-2013, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

hello zmrians
i replaced the battery to a new exide vrla z7 and it costed me 1.5k.
i have a query regarding the brake oil, i searched for the dot 4 brake oil but it is not avaiolable anywhere , is it okay to use dot 3 and mix it with the already filled dot 4 brake oil?
and about the tire, i have zeroed down to michelin sirac , he is quoting 2.2k and he will make it tubeless it seems so is there any drawback if changing it from tube type to tubeless and also can you guys suggest me if the price quoted is right

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

but are you sure the bike in stock would have had dot4 oil, please confirm.
and i can not risk putting a tube tire as i tour a lot so i guess it is a bad idea going for michelin sirac then
are there any riders who are using michelin sirac tubeless and faced problems here ??

Praj Bro,

Never ever think of mixing Dot-3 & Dot-4. You happen to do this and then you are messed up.
Yes AFAIK my Bike in May-2010 was with Dot-4 but also have seen some new Bikes in Dec-2012 with Dot-3.
Although I am not sure about your Location but go to any 4 Wheeler accesory shop and ask for Dot-4.

Castrol is available and quite decent.
KBX & Motul are very good but not found everywhere. TVs will still do.

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Don't mix DOT3 and DOT4. If you're getting DOT3, pour in DOT3 completely after bleeding out DOT4. You can get DOT4 brake oil at TVS SVCs. Also, you can order them online.
Regarding Michelin TT tire, go for it. Its a good buy. And trust me, no mechanic can convert a TT tire to a TL tire.

What he meant was that, he'll put Michelin Sirac without a tube, but that's not advised. Its a TT tire, use it with a tube.

P.S - There are riders who're using it as a TL tire, but that risk isn't worth taking.

Always it is recommended to use a TIRE as mentioned. But again Tube Types can be used as Tubeless.
But make sure it is done very nicely since in most cases there is a faint gap between Tire & Rim which makes it difficult.

Had been using michelin M-62 as Tubeless in front from Sep-2012 and had some issues.
Once the Rim was painted it was gone. Although not aware of current status since bike is also gone

**Divya Sharan** · 03-06-2013, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

but are you sure the bike in stock would have had dot4 oil, please confirm.
and i can not risk putting a tube tire as i tour a lot so i guess it is a bad idea going for michelin sirac then
are there any riders who are using michelin sirac tubeless and faced problems here ??

Praj, please understand that Michelin is a TT tire from factory. It has softer sidewalls than a TL tire. In case, if you're using it use with a tube.

<2011 ZMA came with TT tires and people toured on them.

My ZMR came with DOT3 fluid from factory/showroom. Read the reservoir cap (beside front brake lever). It says DOT3 or DOT4.
Use DOT4 as it has a higher boiling point and results in less brake fade. But you don't have an option if its not available, do you?

**Praj zm** · 03-06-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by satyajitrc View Post

Praj Bro,

Never ever think of mixing Dot-3 & Dot-4. You happen to do this and then you are messed up.
Yes AFAIK my Bike in May-2010 was with Dot-4 but also have seen some new Bikes in Dec-2012 with Dot-3.
Although I am not sure about your Location but go to any 4 Wheeler accesory shop and ask for Dot-4.

Castrol is available and quite decent.
KBX & Motul are very good but not found everywhere. TVs will still do.

Always it is recommended to use a TIRE as mentioned. But again Tube Types can be used as Tubeless.
But make sure it is done very nicely since in most cases there is a faint gap between Tire & Rim which makes it difficult.

Had been using michelin M-62 as Tubeless in front from Sep-2012 and had some issues.
Once the Rim was painted it was gone. Although not aware of current status since bike is also gone

Got it sathyajith
Any suggestions on the tire
Thanks

@divya
Got ur point dude
Thanks
Any other tubeless tire u would recommend apart from PSD and
How can I know which brake oil have been put in my zmr

**Divya Sharan** · 03-06-2013, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

Got ur point dude
Is there no other good tubeless tire for zmr except for PSD
And how can I know which brake oil have been put in my zmr

Try MRF Vyde 120mm. Else Zapper Q. Its 110mm.

Brake fluid you can't say. DOT3/4/5/5.1 come in multiple colors.
Just get DOT4 and put it. Its mentioned on the brake fluid reservoir cap too.

**rreneav1987** · 03-06-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

Got it sathyajith
Any suggestions on the tire
Thanks

@divya
Got ur point dude
Thanks
Any other tubeless tire u would recommend apart from PSD and
How can I know which brake oil have been put in my zmr

I am using Michelin Sirac Street as TL for both front and back.. so far no issues.. i have completed over 1000kms and next month going for a tour to Bhutan.. not sure how safe its going to be hence I am going to be carrying a liquid solution and the inflator which is gonna help me out in case I face any issues.. also i am going to be carrying tube which is gonna cost me 200 bucks in case I face issues..

Will let you know how it performs once I get back from the tour

**Praj zm** · 03-06-2013, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Try MRF Vyde 120mm. Else Zapper Q. Its 110mm.

Brake fluid you can't say. DOT3/4/5/5.1 come in multiple colors.
Just get DOT4 and put it. Its mentioned on the brake fluid reservoir cap too.

Ya sure
Thanks
It's mentioned dot 3 or dot 4 so
IMO it s better to bleed all the oil and fill it with new oil

**rreneav1987** · 03-06-2013, 08:12 PM

Hey Guysss..

Few Pics of my Black Pearl.. She is 3 years and 10 days Old

and I love her more and more

She has completed 24000 kms on the odometer and she will complete 30000 next month

**Divya Sharan** · 03-06-2013, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by Praj zm View Post

Ya sure
Thanks
It's mentioned dot 3 or dot 4 so
IMO it s better to bleed all the oil and fill it with new oil

Hey Prajwal, BTW MRF Vyde is available in 100mm section also. Its a round profile tyre but softer compound. Do give it a try as well in case you're "not" looking for an upsize.
And one more thing, everytime you replace the brake pads/change the grade of brake oil; the old oil MUST entirely be flushed out and then brakes must be properly bled!

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Hey Guysss..

Few Pics of my Black Pearl.. She is 3 years and 10 days Old

and I love her more and more

She has completed 24000 kms on the odometer and she will complete 30000 next month

[Thank you Monk, I was unable to edit my posts]

Dude, get yourself a roll of conspicuity tape. Since you'd be doing a long trip; it'd be very helpful.

[Available on eBay as well as local shops/3M dealerships]

All the best for the trip in advance.

**rreneav1987** · 03-06-2013, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Dude, get yourself a roll of conspicuity tape. Since you'd be doing a long trip; it'd be very helpful.

[Available on eBay as well as local shops/3M dealerships]

All the best for the trip in advance.

Thanks for the suggestion mate.. I will do it

as I am in the tail position.. its definitely needed for me

One more question.. Can you please get me some photos of where you have pasted the rubber tubes to arrest the vibrations...?? I am thinking to get it done this weekend.. hence it will be helpful for me..

Cheers..

**abhi7013** · 03-06-2013, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Thanks for the suggestion mate.. I will do it

as I am in the tail position.. its definitely needed for me

One more question.. Can you please get me some photos of where you have pasted the rubber tubes to arrest the vibrations...?? I am thinking to get it done this weekend.. hence it will be helpful for me..

Cheers..

The pics would help me too bro. To show the mech. You yourself heard the vibes!

**Divya Sharan** · 03-06-2013, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Thanks for the suggestion mate.. I will do it

as I am in the tail position.. its definitely needed for me

One more question.. Can you please get me some photos of where you have pasted the rubber tubes to arrest the vibrations...?? I am thinking to get it done this weekend.. hence it will be helpful for me..

Cheers..

Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post

The pics would help me too bro. To show the mech. You yourself heard the vibes!

I have put the tube strips prominently at 2 places:
1. Around the meter console.
2. Under the fairing above the front fender holding the number plate.

Clicked pics now @ night hence please bear the quality from my phone cam.

This is the stock setup (courtesy - Google)

My setup. (notice the rubber layer around the console)

Now time for some pics of my ride

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