Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

@Bibhu da - put your RVMs back on the bike. How do you manage riding without one?

@Parth - Sorry if you felt that I was throwing a rant, I was justifying what PSR sir had said.

@all - there's no kolaveri here, at least in this thread. And as far as top speed/power/torque is/are considered, we buy budget bikes within our pockets' reach. With our mentality, comparisons are bound to happen. Consider the upcoming CBR500R, its top end is ~180 kmph. It may have ~46 odd hp on tap. Ninja 650 has 72, but does 210 kmph.
On the other hand, Suzuki Bandit is a 1255 cc mill, producing "just" 85 bhp and tops out at 240 clicks. People say its the most practical SBK for India.

We know, its about the tuning. What we were discussing here is - if P220 can produce more power than our bikes, with R15/CBR150R producing near about similar hp, what was stopping HMC from upgrading the Karizma? Doesn't it look like a healty topic to discuss. There were no rants IMO.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hey divya bro, I COMPLETELY agree with that last paragraph. That was exactly why I posted about that topic. Why did hmc stop at 17bhp? I only compared it with 220 cause I took that as an example. I agree in the past I've raced with one and have compared top ends but that was just for knowledge sake! As of now I took the example of 220 for asking that question. Why just 17bhp. Some people may have got me wrong.

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Every bike has it's place in our life and on the road..be it the little TVS 50 or a Ninja ....and owners do love their bike....Comparison between bikes takes place to either know the reason for differences or to make a Purchase, befitting one's preference....
No serious, committed Biker will ever look down on another bike , and neither did I. I had owned varied bikes and so respect each one.
I sincerely hope I had not triggered another Bike Vs Bike argument here,which is farthest from my intention.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

nope.. not at all.. its just people didn't go thru the previous chats hence this misunderstanding..

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Sir it entirely depends on the angle of perception of people. No one here had any intentions of looking down on other bikes. Depends how the person viewed the conversation.

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Re: ZMR fishtail issue

Query Approved and Merged​

Re: ZMR fishtail issue

Changing tyre is not the solution. The swing arm maybe the cutprit if it got hit during the fall. Also check for rim bends.


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Shrey buddy.. I too have a doubt that the swing arm is at fault.. when you look from the back of your bike.. can you see that the front tire and rear tire are not in sync?? in the sense, if you see from behind.. the front tire should be covered by the rear tire.. if not, then the swing arm is at fault.. get it checked.. correct me if I am wrong guys..

Re: ZMR fishtail issue

Suspect the swingarm bush, then the coneset.

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Man.. after a long time I see you here

Re: ZMR fishtail issue

Thanks The Monk for quick approval.

I am not in town now, will check and let you know if that's the issue, thanks for the prompt reply abhi7013, rreneav1987, ashwinprakas.

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Hey Guys, My views were not just based on the current discussion, but were actually on quite a few discussions made previously. So please don't get me wrong. I just believe that every bike is unique in it's own right.

Frankly HMC's funda behind producing such low power/torque out of 223 cc is strictly to do with it's own business fundas. Nothing else. HMC has been THE brand for our people in terms of reliability & sustained fuel efficiency... It was never a hallmark for power bikes & HMC is well aware of what customers expect out of it's bikes.. HMC knows that people buy it's bikes making a slight compromise with their full blown wishes.. So it has stuck to it's age old successful funda of "play safe"

I certainly don't believe that generating more power or torque would negate long term reliability of engine.. or revving would.. If an R15 150 cc engine can produce power beyond it's capability & can still be a hallmark of reliability even if you revv it day in day out, why cant a Hero engine be as reliable producing more power.. BUT then HMC would need to use engine parts of much much much better quality, a better cooling system & ways to handle continuous stress, not to forget a significant amount of effort in quality tests... Now all these would increase the price of the bike significantly .. But the question is, if price of a ZMR increases by 35-40K more, how many would buy it, considering there is a Honda bike available with better specs at around the same price..!!! HMC knows it, doesn't it ??

Therefore it instead chooses to provide you a bike which gives you some standard power (a level its engine can manage for a long time), a good FE & reliability, all within an affordable amount of money. Though a ZMR is still overpriced, but then HMC is known to charge a bigger margin in term of profit.. It just exploits the average customer's trust a bit more

Btw, you are right Divya.. I should put the RVM(s) back.. am also feeling a bit unsafe.. but my obsession with speed is creating this issue.. I find it difficult to ride at a higher speed in the traffic with the mirrors spread out.. so took them off.. but even am also planning to put them back to where they belong

Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

Just fold the rvms when you think they are hindering your speed. Open them when required. Zmr looks cool when the rvms are open!

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Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

At last got hold of PSD 110, but charging me 3800/- Price isn't a bit high???

Ohh yes just change the car's horn to trumpet horn skoda type?? Anybody using in their car or bike.. i like the feel of the horn the road presence.

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PSD great....price seems to be little high...but does not matter since product is excellent...do post your experience on PSD..

i am searching for the same in Delhi but could not found yet....

The horn you are referring having a skoda horn type sound...popular nowadays...i had in my cars from last 4 years...sound i set as average as i do not like extreme loud sound in horns...brand i not remember....