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  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Which engine and pgmfi is used by hero from honda. Is the engine is crf250

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    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by vijaycool View Post
      Which engine and pgmfi is used by hero from honda. Is the engine is crf250

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      The engine which the Karizma uses is of CRF230.. the ZMR uses the same engine as the Karizma except it is a pgmfi.. the pgmfi is a Honda Technology.. it is used in the CBR & Stunner FI in the Indian Market
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      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Thanks. I checked pgmfi for crf230 but I could find pgmfi only in 250 and 450f.

        Some more info I have found. My guess was right PGMFI uses Alpha-N (TPS*rpm) as load sensing and not using MAP sensor for load sensing. So removing snorkel will reduce the throttle input hence less fuel is injected. Keeping the throttle in its least position for the particular speed will improve mileage. For example in highway one reaches the speed of 80 kmph. He just need to reduce the throttle gradually so that there wont be any change in speed. At one point of time the speed starts to reduce just increase the throttle little more to maintain the speed in its least throttle position. This will yield maximum mileage for that speed.



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        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Drain out 100 ml if you're so tensed. Else, leave it. Nothing to worry.BTW, my bike returned exactly 50.3 kmpl in the weekend's Chennai trip.
          Are you sure your bike has the ZMR engine and not extreme engine mated to FI. Ok, jokes apart, that is indeed a splendid mileage. Most of the members here get 45+ kpl on highways, thats good.Although two guys at my friends shop was saying that their ZMR was returning 30 kpl. I just smiled and ignored as i know how they will be maintaining their rides. Even my friend who has bought the ZMR six months back is consistently getting 44-46 kpl easily.And [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]sharan i accuse you of diverting my mind. Why?Because my heart is sold on ZMR because after riding my friends ZMR i am addicted to its torque and the FI response. Moreover the fuel efficiency is a bonus.But the thing is that my extreme is almost new at 25k on odo and as my uncle puts it better than new bike. So it is not feasible to sell it financially( see the mind of a banker is slightly getting to as father and me both are banker) moreover extreme is running fine with no problem returning a mileage of 50+ kpl with me touching a top speed of 120 kph( same sensor as ZMR so speedo damn accurate). Bike is excellent but miss the torque of ZMR and even low end torque of my JOY. But the top end pull after 6k rpm is ballistic which makes me grin.So your mileage post and also photos posted by members just stirs the heart.
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          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by sibun View Post
            Are you sure your bike has the ZMR engine and not extreme engine mated to FI. Ok, jokes apart, that is indeed a splendid mileage. Most of the members here get 45+ kpl on highways, thats good.Although two guys at my friends shop was saying that their ZMR was returning 30 kpl. I just smiled and ignored as i know how they will be maintaining their rides. Even my friend who has bought the ZMR six months back is consistently getting 44-46 kpl easily.And [MENTION=47074]Divya[/MENTION]sharan i accuse you of diverting my mind. Why?Because my heart is sold on ZMR because after riding my friends ZMR i am addicted to its torque and the FI response. Moreover the fuel efficiency is a bonus.But the thing is that my extreme is almost new at 25k on odo and as my uncle puts it better than new bike. So it is not feasible to sell it financially( see the mind of a banker is slightly getting to as father and me both are banker) moreover extreme is running fine with no problem returning a mileage of 50+ kpl with me touching a top speed of 120 kph( same sensor as ZMR so speedo damn accurate). Bike is excellent but miss the torque of ZMR and even low end torque of my JOY. But the top end pull after 6k rpm is ballistic which makes me grin.So your mileage post and also photos posted by members just stirs the heart.
            Hehehe.. then you will be more shocked to hear my what my bike returned on highways.. i got a shocking 54kmpl on avg.. highest being 56 and least being 52kmpl when i toured to Nepal. At speeds ranging between 70-95kmph.. top speed achieved during that ridr was 125kmph.. yes. The zmr is truly above all when it comes to FE

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            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Originally posted by sarkartheruler View Post
              I have a basic question. Can we call the Hero Karizma ZMR as a 100% Indian bike manufactured completely in India with no assistance from Honda?
              It was made with assistance from Honda but manufacturing is completely based in India I guess.

              But if i remember correctly, the Karizma when launched in 2003 had its complete engine sourced from Japan?
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              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                Hehehe.. then you will be more shocked to hear my what my bike returned on highways.. i got a shocking 54kmpl on avg.. highest being 56 and least being 52kmpl when i toured to Nepal. At speeds ranging between 70-95kmph.. top speed achieved during that ridr was 125kmph.. yes. The zmr is truly above all when it comes to FESent from my Spice Mi-530 using Tapatalk 4
                Now you are saying 54-56, man you all are forcing me to join your gang. Man, you do not know me, i am actually a bit crack. If my mind gets set then this sunday itself will buy one as you know once i have decided something i do not think twice. Will not look at this thread otherwise you guys will make me buy one.
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                • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by sibun View Post
                  Now you are saying 54-56, man you all are forcing me to join your gang. Man, you do not know me, i am actually a bit crack. If my mind gets set then this sunday itself will buy one as you know once i have decided something i do not think twice. Will not look at this thread otherwise you guys will make me buy one.
                  oops.. sorry.. signing out for the night

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                  • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by sibun View Post
                    Are you sure your bike has the ZMR engine and not extreme engine mated to FI. Ok, jokes apart, that is indeed a splendid mileage. Most of the members here get 45+ kpl on highways, thats good.Although two guys at my friends shop was saying that their ZMR was returning 30 kpl. I just smiled and ignored as i know how they will be maintaining their rides. Even my friend who has bought the ZMR six months back is consistently getting 44-46 kpl easily.And @Divyasharan i accuse you of diverting my mind. Why?Because my heart is sold on ZMR because after riding my friends ZMR i am addicted to its torque and the FI response. Moreover the fuel efficiency is a bonus.But the thing is that my extreme is almost new at 25k on odo and as my uncle puts it better than new bike. So it is not feasible to sell it financially( see the mind of a banker is slightly getting to as father and me both are banker) moreover extreme is running fine with no problem returning a mileage of 50+ kpl with me touching a top speed of 120 kph( same sensor as ZMR so speedo damn accurate). Bike is excellent but miss the torque of ZMR and even low end torque of my JOY. But the top end pull after 6k rpm is ballistic which makes me grin.So your mileage post and also photos posted by members just stirs the heart.
                    Guilty as charged dada.
                    Yes, kmpl figures are a bonus for this bike. I love the low-mid range so very much. But I must say I rarely ride above 100 kmph even on empty highways. In fact I love cruising in 80-90 range and the bike keeps going and going!
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                    • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      How does a flat/broken speaker sound at high volume? A sound that's loud but irritates you due to the distorted speaker.
                      That kinda sound comes.
                      Like a ferrari ???
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                      • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                        Guilty as charged dada.
                        Yes, kmpl figures are a bonus for this bike. I love the low-mid range so very much. But I must say I rarely ride above 100 kmph even on empty highways. In fact I love cruising in 80-90 range and the bike keeps going and going!
                        80-100 is when the ZMA engine settles into a comfortable growl that munches up the miles easily, without any stress, it just keeps going.

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                        • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          After honda seperation does hero still uses hondq pgmfi?

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                          • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by vijaycool View Post
                            After honda seperation does hero still uses hondq pgmfi?

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                            • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by vijaycool View Post
                              After honda seperation does hero still uses hondq pgmfi?

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                              PGMFI HECS and everything else is still intact in the current ZMR...
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                              • Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Ok thanks. Looks like honda plonked some pgmfi ecu could be cbr250. Crf250 doesnt have bank angle sensor and crf230 doesnt have pgmfi

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