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  • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
    Been there done that! Have spent numerous hours at PBK, maybe a good double digit percentage of my life in the past 1 year would be spent in PBK at Chennai/Bangalore/Pune! Even if I want to get something fixed my way, it all boils down to mech who's servicing it, his depth of knowledge, his dedication to solve an issue....

    You are not the only Hyd 220 owner whos getting good service at the PBK there, and thus I'm sure its the svc center thats actually doing a good job. I am actually considering riding down to Hyd to get my bike's issue(s) resolved if that does not happen with the existing PBK here in another months time.



    Hey, this issue has been faced by a couple of others also. Do post a detailed resolution once its resolved.



    If you look at the P220 lights in your rear view mirror it would look white!

    The P220 lights are of 'H7' type and are 55W. Osram has a Night Breaker bulb which comes in the proper specs, you can thing about these bulbs if you want to change.

    PS: 21 days are over dude, whats news update about your R1?


    EDIT: Small update about my bike...

    -Completed the 1000kms running and changed oil to Motul 5100T.
    -After the replacement of the crank bearing the vibes had disappeared almost by 90% during the running in period.
    -The vibes are again back by almost 50% after a short 500km ride yesterday.
    -The mech had not tightened the oil cooler bolts and I was leaking oil through the ride yesterday. Incidentally I had forgotten to carry my allen key set so I could tighten it.
    -After 15K kms (mostly touring!), my bike is looking for change in clutch plates and chain sprocket set as both are showing signs of aging now.
    -My low battery indicator issue decided to get nasty yesterday and decided that it will disappear only after I touch 100-110.
    -Rear tyre seems to developed an invisible puncture, pressure is dropping down to almost 18-22 psi. Need to sit with a magnifying glass and a bucket of water to find out the exact spot of the puncture. Zapper Vyde's are almost finished after 10.5K kms.
    Let me know before U come!!

    I'll also come to the SVC.
    I'm an engineer as I mentioned earlier so know about the way things need to be Adjusted.
    Also Can U just Jot down all the problems U face now???
    May be able to suggest Some solutions.

    The AS in Banglore also does a pretty good Job.

    Not sure how They failed in UR case.
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    • Originally posted by Prabhakar View Post
      Let me know before U come!!

      I'll also come to the SVC.
      I'm an engineer as I mentioned earlier so know about the way things need to be Adjusted.
      Also Can U just Jot down all the problems U face now???
      May be able to suggest Some solutions.

      The AS in Banglore also does a pretty good Job.

      Not sure how They failed in UR case.
      Buddy even I'm a mech. engineer , though not working in my field of study for the past 3 years.

      I have 2 basic issues:-

      1. More than normal NVH levels post 6k rpm, also a drop in top-end performance. Svc center attributes it to the age of the bike being 35K. I say there is definitely something that can be done to get back to how things were.
      2. Low-Batt indicator at idling with headlights On. Goes only after riding for a certain distance!
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      • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
        -The vibes are again back by almost 50% after a short 500km ride yesterday.
        did that get any better after the oil change?

        -Rear tyre seems to developed an invisible puncture, pressure is dropping down to almost 18-22 psi. Need to sit with a magnifying glass and a bucket of water to find out the exact spot of the puncture. Zapper Vyde's are almost finished after 10.5K kms.
        But that tyre was supposed to be a soft compound one... need your views on its grip level & handling.

        Originally posted by Prabhakar View Post
        Let me know before U come!!

        I'll also come to the SVC.
        I'm an engineer as I mentioned earlier so know about the way things need to be Adjusted.
        Also Can U just Jot down all the problems U face now???
        May be able to suggest Some solutions.

        The AS in Banglore also does a pretty good Job.

        Not sure how They failed in UR case.
        I guess that it would also depend on how "touch wood" your bike is... small niggles are attended to but repeated major issues... they run out of solutions and hardly anything can be done.

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        • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
          did that get any better after the oil change
          Quite frankly, this was the first time a mineral oil (that too castrol!) lasted me 1K kms, can probably be attributed to the fact that I was perpetually riding only between 4-6K RPM for 80% of the time.

          So answering your question, the only difference I had was a slightly cooler running engine. Rest was all almost the same! Its only after the ride yesterday the NVH levels have again gone for a toss.


          Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
          But that tyre was supposed to be a soft compound one... need your views on its grip level & handling.
          Its is a softie for sure, but I have done a fair amount of off-roading on these tyres too without which I'm sure it would last another 5K kms more. Vis a Vis the Zapper C, the Vydes score when it comes to cornering grip, flickability and braking performance. The only issue with the Vyde when compared to Zapper C is that when one locks the rear wheel this leaves line and wiggles about a bit. The Zapper C when new never did any such natak!

          But I would even suggest that Bajaj make the Vyde their stock tyre as opposed to the Zapper C. Handling improved by a pretty good margin!
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          • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
            Buddy even I'm a mech. engineer , though not working in my field of study for the past 3 years.

            I have 2 basic issues:-

            1. More than normal NVH levels post 6k rpm, also a drop in top-end performance. Svc center attributes it to the age of the bike being 35K. I say there is definitely something that can be done to get back to how things were.
            2. Low-Batt indicator at idling with headlights On. Goes only after riding for a certain distance!
            Sorry If I sounded in a wrong way!!!!
            What I meant about my being engineer was to mention that I get my hands dirty in the SVC along with the guys to get things right.

            The NVH levels of the 220 are always higher than normal in the 6k range - which can be reduced considerably with the Dual sided tapes in the fairing.
            I'm planning to even open it completely & get the brackets which hold the fairing also get some dampening to reduce it further.
            Will be doing it in the 2nd weekend of may most probably.
            Will update once I try it out.

            The Performance drop needs to be checked as the age of 35k is not considerable for a new - generation engine.
            As U mentioned rightly some internal component in the engine is failing to deliver its full potential.

            Some things which may be be worth checking are -

            1) Throttle Body Cleaning,
            2) Fuel Pump, Filter & Fuel Lines,
            3) Fuel INJECTOR working,
            4) De-carbonising (if not done yet),
            5) Checking the Compression Ratio,
            6) Spark Plugs & the Spark Timings & Voltages,
            7) Valve Adjustments & seals,
            8) The Manifold Duct also needs some cleaning,
            9) The Piston Rings.

            I can't think anything else of my head now.
            But once all these are done it may restore most of the earlier performance.
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            • Originally posted by Prabhakar View Post
              Sorry If I sounded in a wrong way!!!!
              What I meant about my being engineer was to mention that I get my hands dirty in the SVC along with the guys to get things right.

              The NVH levels of the 220 are always higher than normal in the 6k range - which can be reduced considerably with the Dual sided tapes in the fairing.
              I'm planning to even open it completely & get the brackets which hold the fairing also get some dampening to reduce it further.
              Will be doing it in the 2nd weekend of may most probably.
              Will update once I try it out.

              The Performance drop needs to be checked as the age of 35k is not considerable for a new - generation engine.
              As U mentioned rightly some internal component in the engine is failing to deliver its full potential.

              Some things which may be be worth checking are -

              1) Throttle Body Cleaning,
              2) Fuel Pump, Filter & Fuel Lines,
              3) Fuel INJECTOR working,
              4) De-carbonising (if not done yet),
              5) Checking the Compression Ratio,
              6) Spark Plugs & the Spark Timings & Voltages,
              7) Valve Adjustments & seals,
              8) The Manifold Duct also needs some cleaning,
              9) The Piston Rings.

              I can't think anything else of my head now.
              But once all these are done it may restore most of the earlier performance.

              Arre you got me wrong...I just said that even I'm a mech engr!

              My fairing has zero vibes, it is damped using the dual sided tape that you have mentioned. The NVH is clearly coming from the engine!


              Originally posted by Prabhakar View Post
              Some things which may be be worth checking are -

              1) Throttle Body Cleaning,
              This has been done every 10K

              2) Fuel Pump, Filter & Fuel Lines,
              Filter replaced every 3-5K kms, lines and pump has not been touched by svc center as they decline from doing touching these


              3) Fuel INJECTOR working,
              It is working for sure , the O-ring for the injector was replaced at the 30K service.


              4) De-carbonising (if not done yet),
              Done at 30K and that is what has led to to all engine probs!

              5) Checking the Compression Ratio,
              I have been wanting to get this checked, but have never managed to get it done in front of me....They said its fine. But I suspect that its not!


              6) Spark Plugs & the Spark Timings & Voltages,
              New Spark plugs at 29.5K, again put NGK Iridiums. Timing/Voltage has not been checked.

              7) Valve Adjustments & seals,
              Valve Lapping done at the 30K service.

              8) The Manifold Duct also needs some cleaning,
              Exhaust or Intake?

              9) The Piston Rings.
              New rings at 34K to check for oil drinking issue. Done 1.5 kms after that, still have not managed to check if piston ring change has helped in checking oil drinking issue.

              I can't think anything else of my head now.
              But once all these are done it may restore most of the earlier performance.
              My answers in bold
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                • -There is mild scoring inside the cylinder block. This was observed post de-carb. Svc center says its normal!

                  -Got a new batter at 27K. Even with the new battery the issue persists. They refuse to touch the alternator/magneto. They put the blaim on the RR unit, we tried a brand new RR unit and the issue was still there. They are now "thinking" of solutions!
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                  • @Prabhakar: A question out of curiosity, which rvms did you changed to.....
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                    • Originally posted by andy.rebels View Post
                      @Prabhakar: A question out of curiosity, which rvms did you changed to.....
                      The P150/180 ones!

                      Difference between fitting the RTR and P150/180 ones :-
                      -The RTR mirrors don't vibrate, they shake (ie the mirrors dont got 'tizzy' at high rpms)
                      -The RTR mirrors look better!
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                      • i am planning to get rtr mirrors on my bike. but as you said thoda setting karna hoga..... so for that i would have to meet a reliable mech...
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                        • Help me

                          My bike has done 11500 kms until now. When I ride my bike at slower speeds and I release the throttle to normal position the bike feels lasy and drags me towards front.

                          During my first days of 220 when I release the clutch it makes a smooth ride clocking around 2000 or 2000+ rpm on the tacho. But now it get down to 1100 rpm or 1300 rpm even in 1st and second gears. I cant understand what exactly the problem was?

                          Help me regarding the problem.Thanks in advance.

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                          • Guys help me! My bike is still not showing reserve even when i have crossed 170 kms on Rs. 200 worth of petrol! Still showing three bars.

                            Usually i get the light on at 150kms.

                            Does that mean i am getting more average or something wrong with fuel indicator?

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                            • Originally posted by ajaydevb View Post
                              My bike has done 11500 kms until now. When I ride my bike at slower speeds and I release the throttle to normal position the bike feels lasy and drags me towards front.

                              During my first days of 220 when I release the clutch it makes a smooth ride clocking around 2000 or 2000+ rpm on the tacho. But now it get down to 1100 rpm or 1300 rpm even in 1st and second gears. I cant understand what exactly the problem was?

                              Help me regarding the problem.Thanks in advance.
                              I can't say much about your first issue, might be issue with front disc or the front forks... get them checked....
                              the second issue is related to CO and RPM setting... get it set properly.

                              Originally posted by nitrosatya View Post
                              Guys help me! My bike is still not showing reserve even when i have crossed 170 kms on Rs. 200 worth of petrol! Still showing three bars.

                              Usually i get the light on at 150kms.

                              Does that mean i am getting more average or something wrong with fuel indicator?
                              Don't be happy that your bike is returning miraculous mileage . The fuel float has gone kaput..... get it checked/changed under warranty.
                              Last edited by chetanpulsar; 04-27-2009, 09:31 PM.
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                              • ^The tech fuel indicators are known to have a mood of their own.
                                Even Bunny bhaiya reported(some months back in BI) that he has been stranded two times on the middle of a highway when the indicator showed 4 bars!
                                No Nonsense Biker.

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