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  • Originally posted by hash101 View Post
    Sure...will definately let u guys know. Will probably go there day after tomorrow. By the way, in case the prob is with the ecu, is it covered under the warranty? and would the SC guys agree to change it without much hassles?
    I had a problem with the ECU and it was replaced under warranty by PBK. They will agree to change it under the condition that it is not working properly.
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    • Originally posted by andy.rebels View Post
      Same problem with me brother.......... but it happens only few times...... may be 2 or 3 days in a month....
      hey buddy i have also same problem with my bike..when i ws ride with pillion rider than brakes nosie comes on but it is on 15 TO 25 kmph speed not on above that.
      i just changed rear brakes pad..n ma bikes km is above 24000km....so any other issuie??????
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      • Originally posted by hash101 View Post
        Hi people! Just joined xbhp and have read through a lot of posts here..... There's a lot of great info about 220 and I am sure that you guys can help me out with a problem with my 220.
        Ever since the first servicing, the bike refuses to go beyond 6k RPM..If I keep trying, it just starts stuttering and and I have to give up....This means that the top speed of my bike is about 84 kmph. I have been to the SC 3 times and each time they do some CO setiing and then take the bike on the machine( i think it's dyno?) and show me that the problem has been solved. THe bike performs exactly as it should on the dyno and also on my way back home. However, by the next evening, the problem comes back.....the last time I went to SC ( that was the day before yesterday) the mechanic told me that I should come in the afternoon sometime and he would solve the problem by cleaning up the G&D sensor and replacing the roll-over sensor ( not really sure if I have the names right, but htis is what he told me).... could you guys help me by pointing out the issue with my bike? Because I get the impression that the SC guys have no idea of what needs to be done aand are just using the trial and error method which is eating up a lot of my office and weekend time.
        Also the last time these people set the CO to 2.05....is this setting correct, i asked him twice and he said that it's okay. in fact he reduced the CO setting from another 220 from 3 to 2.05 in front of me.
        I am in mumbai and go to the Sai Service centre in Amboli, Andheri west.. I plan to go there this thursday Afternoon and see if replacing the sensors will sort the issue. I hope they can sort it..I don't see the point of buying a 220 if it can't go at more than 90..
        Hope you guys forgive the lengthy text! Looking for a solution from you guys...
        Ditto problem here....The problem started 1 day after the first service and yeah even my bike's CO was quite high as checked by them during the service and even the Pbk guy is persuading me to get the tuning done again....
        Originally posted by pranay View Post
        Welcome to xBhp. hash101!

        I think you are the second person who have faced the same problem.

        Prongs here in this forum had faced the same problem. I had advised him to get the ECU/solenoid checked. I would advise the same to you.

        @Prongs: What happened to that problem by the way? Any update?
        Well....I didn't got time to take my bike to the Pbk....the competitive entrance exams being the culprit....Will take it within next weekend and I hope they are gonna solve the problem this time round....

        Originally posted by hash101 View Post
        Thanks! I guess i will ask prongs the specifics...will ask the mech to check ecu and solenoid....by the way do you think that the sensors i mentioned could be the issue? because i know for sure that the mech will try to replace those and then insist that the problem has been solved.

        Originally posted by pranay View Post
        The Roll Over sensor could be the issue. If the mechanic is so insistent that it is the problem, then I guess you will have to go ahead and do as he says. If it does solve the problem then its all fine and good. If it doesn't then I think ECU/solenoid could be the culprit. Do update us on the specifics. Also ask prongs to do that. It will be useful for all future problem queries.
        I don't know anything about the Roll Over Senser...what is that used for....Can anyone explain in detail....and yeah I talked to Mr. Venkat and he asked me to get the fuel filter changed....According to him the filter is clogged..Check that as well...

        Originally posted by hash101 View Post
        Sure...will definately let u guys know. Will probably go there day after tomorrow. By the way, in case the prob is with the ecu, is it covered under the warranty? and would the SC guys agree to change it without much hassles?
        Do tell me what was the solution of the problem....And yeah get me the phone number of that Pbk guy so that in case the guys here aren't able to solve the problem I can ask them to call that guy....

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        • The Problem is noticed similar as in our School day we rode bicycles & when there is a misalignment of rear wheels we feels some tightness at the rear & does not feel comfortable at rear .Also as someone stated the sound disappears after a few Kms ride .My pads has only been replaced few months b4 & i am sure the sound is not from disc pads .

          Also has anyone had a feeling when we apply the front brakes in such a manner that the bikes feels like stopping on edge of the tire or as we cannot feel the full tire grip during braking .

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          • @Durvesh:Not any other than this....and ya vibes .....rest everything fine
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            • Here is some info about the "OKS Chain Lube Spray" mentioned in Bike India April 2009.

              Yes, this one is water repellent & dust resistant. No product code it seems. Just the name as mentioned above in quotes. The OKS engineer suggested to stick to 451 chain lube for o-ring chains for personal use and the product in question is only for service centers.

              The reason as per him is that this lube needs the chain to be absolutely clean & dry before application and should be applied after a full cleaning in the service center. I am thinking that we can use this product (if it can last long) with an occasional chain cleaning with kerosene!

              The 451 however can be used even with some dirt on the chain. Even when we use degreaser all the dirt doesn't go away.

              Forgot to ask if this lasts longer than the 451. Also as per the magazine the cost is Rs 220 - whereas the 451's MRP is Rs 370. The text on the 451 can reads - "Adhesive Chain Lubricant Spray" !!!

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              • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                I am thinking that we can use this product (if it can last long) with an occasional chain cleaning with kerosene!
                kerosene+O-ring chain= not a good idea!
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                • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                  kerosene+O-ring chain= not a good idea!
                  Kerosine is the Only recommended cleaning agent mentioned in a many international bike manuals (about 8-10 of them that I went through - Honda's, Yamaha's & Suzuki's) for o-ring chains.

                  That guy also mentioned that they supply this to Bajaj service centers.
                  Last edited by HydBiker; 04-29-2009, 01:16 PM.

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                  • Can you share the bike manuals please....?

                    From the forums that I read across, have mentioned Kerosene/Petrol/WD-40 to be highly active which hardens O-Rings. Instead diesel is comparatively less active to the both and is hence better for cleaning the chain IMO.

                    And that is what I've been using too all this while.
                    Last edited by Praful; 04-29-2009, 01:21 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                      Can you share the bike manuals please....?

                      From the forums that I read across, have mentioned Kerosene/Petrol to be highly active which hardens O-Rings. Instead diesel is comparatively less active to the both and is hence better for cleaning the chain IMO.

                      And that is what I've been using too all this while.
                      I lost some manuals but do have some. Will pull out the info later.

                      Petrol is an absolute no. I was told that diesel is more active than kerosine. we use diesel in India as kerosine is not available in free market.

                      I remember a test we did in our school days. diesel catches fire much easier than kerosine. means diesel is more volatile / active.

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                      • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                        I remember a test we did in our school days. diesel catches fire much easier than kerosine. means diesel is more volatile / active.
                        This makes sense!

                        But getting a bit deeper into chemistry here, the fact that flash point being a measure of volatility of a liquid is not completely accurate and valid only for very specific liquids.

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                        • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                          I lost some manuals but do have some. Will pull out the info later.

                          Petrol is an absolute no. I was told that diesel is more active than kerosine. we use diesel in India as kerosine is not available in free market.

                          I remember a test we did in our school days. diesel catches fire much easier than kerosine. means diesel is more volatile / active.
                          Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                          Can you share the bike manuals please....?

                          From the forums that I read across, have mentioned Kerosene/Petrol/WD-40 to be highly active which hardens O-Rings. Instead diesel is comparatively less active to the both and is hence better for cleaning the chain IMO.

                          And that is what I've been using too all this while.
                          Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                          Kerosine is the Only recommended cleaning agent mentioned in a many international bike manuals (about 8-10 of them that I went through - Honda's, Yamaha's & Suzuki's) for o-ring chains.

                          That guy also mentioned that they supply this to Bajaj service centers.
                          Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                          kerosene+O-ring chain= not a good idea!
                          This is straight out of my R1 service manual. But kerosene as an O-ring chain cleaner is not ideal at all.

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                          • Without getting into chemistry too much, I believe both of you are correct.

                            Cleaning O-Ring chains is a point of discussion throughout biking community worldwide. Some people have responded saying they have actually soaked the chain in buckets of Kerosene and using the chains for thousands of miles without any noticeable wear. Some people have confirmed that usage of Kerosene and WD-40 on the O-Rings make them wear out faster.

                            Cleaning a Motorcycle Chain - webBikeWorld
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                            • Originally posted by pranay View Post
                              Without getting into chemistry too much, I believe both of you are correct.

                              Cleaning O-Ring chains is a point of discussion throughout biking community worldwide. Some people have responded saying they have actually soaked the chain in buckets of Kerosene and using the chains for thousands of miles without any noticeable wear. Some people have confirmed that usage of Kerosene and WD-40 on the O-Rings make them wear out faster.

                              Cleaning a Motorcycle Chain - webBikeWorld
                              LOL!

                              So I guess we should continue to use whatever like as long as its not Petrol/WD-40. Kerosene or Diesel should be fine!

                              Motul Chain clean is there, but miser me prefers sitting down and getting my hands dirty!
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                              • Originally posted by rossiter View Post
                                This is straight out of my R1 service manual. But kerosene as an O-ring chain cleaner is not ideal at all.
                                I hear that argument too Akhil.... I have cleaned my chain once so far with kerosine in 14K KMs. But which one is better is probably a never ending argument. Here are two snaps for you all -

                                1) from Hayabusa 2001 manual


                                2) from R6 2002 manual

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