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**krish2778** · 03-10-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

That would be the Cat Con. There is no Cat Con on the P220 Fi (AFAIK)

Oh, is that the cat con, i was in doubt about that, in some bikes i have seen the cat con inside the pipes and all, and the service center guys never address that part as the cat-con too.
And mine is the carb version. And i was under the assumption that there is one.

**Abhishek Mushran** · 03-10-2012, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by The Monk View Post

If its a metallic sound, then maybe your mech is right. The bash plate on the front of the silencer at times get loose. This makes a vibrating metallic sound. Since this is just next to the engine, many mistake it for an engine sound. Check that out before you touch the engine.

Hope this helps.

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Congrats on achieving a great milestone. Wishing you more problem free miles with her.
As monk said it can be the heat plate getting loose. But from my experience , recently i too had a rattling sound coming from the engine area, at first it was at some time while riding,it would come and then go, in that fashion. Slowly it became more and more present. I though it was from engine and engine oil was low, but refilled it and it was not it. Later found out it was from exhaust area. My first guess was the heat plate loose issue, but it was not it , the box like thing under the engine which is a part of exhaust had some damage to it internally. Do get it checked. It caused a very annoying rattling sound while riding and i was practically unable to ride my bike due to that sound.

Just an another probable thing, so get it checked too.

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

That would be the Cat Con. There is no Cat Con on the P220 Fi (AFAIK)

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Oh, is that the cat con, i was in doubt about that, in some bikes i have seen the cat con inside the pipes and all, and the service center guys never address that part as the cat-con too.
And mine is the carb version. And i was under the assumption that there is one.

HI Thanks for all your responses
@ Krish: I have the exact problem as mentioned by you. the noise comes and goes but is a very irritating sound. Its not the heat plate got it checked that day. The Bajaj guys also said there is nothing wrong with the engine but a noise from the exhaust area.
The main reason to get worried was that i use the bike 70kms daily & also do frequent trips to Mumbai over the weekend.Plan to give it for servicing next week. Lets hope it all gets resolved then

**krish2778** · 03-10-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Abhishek Mushran View Post

HI Thanks for all your responses
@ Krish: I have the exact problem as mentioned by you. the noise comes and goes but is a very irritating sound. Its not the heat plate got it checked that day. The Bajaj guys also said there is nothing wrong with the engine but a noise from the exhaust area.
The main reason to get worried was that i use the bike 70kms daily & also do frequent trips to Mumbai over the weekend.Plan to give it for servicing next week. Lets hope it all gets resolved then

Ok so we can take heat shield out of the equation. Do give it for check up as soon as possible, i delayed it too long and the sound had become constant, it came to stage were i couldn't ride any longer, even i have about 70-75kms commute daily, so you can guess why i couldn't get the time. And in the end i had to replace the silencer, they said no other way, cutting the cat con was a method which they dint suggest. Anyway i went for the Race concept aftermarket exhaust after that. Since my ride was well out of the warrenty period.

**Abhishek Mushran** · 03-10-2012, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Ok so we can take heat shield out of the equation. Do give it for check up as soon as possible, i delayed it too long and the sound had become constant, it came to stage were i couldn't ride any longer, even i have about 70-75kms commute daily, so you can guess why i couldn't get the time. And in the end i had to replace the silencer, they said no other way, cutting the cat con was a method which they dint suggest. Anyway i went for the Race concept aftermarket exhaust after that. Since my ride was well out of the warrenty period.

Yup will get it done next week
THe cost for the same is being quoted @ Rs 700 just hope it resolves the issue. Else a new silencer would cost about 8K

**krish2778** · 03-10-2012, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Abhishek Mushran View Post

Yup will get it done next week
THe cost for the same is being quoted @ Rs 700 just hope it resolves the issue. Else a new silencer would cost about 8K

Ok bro, do update us on what they do there, and if any changes have come about.

**Praful** · 03-12-2012, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

That would be the Cat Con. There is no Cat Con on the P220 Fi (AFAIK)

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Oh, is that the cat con, i was in doubt about that, in some bikes i have seen the cat con inside the pipes and all, and the service center guys never address that part as the cat-con too.
And mine is the carb version. And i was under the assumption that there is one.

That box is the exhaust-tec box which is present on both the Fi & Dts-i. The cat-con is placed elsewhere in the exhaust. And yes the original Fi exhaust did not have a Cat con, and thats why it made the awesome throaty roar which is absent on the 220 Dts-i. But if any of the Fi owners have changed their exhausts in the last 2 years then its a Cat-conned exhaust that they are running.

Originally posted by Abhishek Mushran View Post

HI Thanks for all your responses
@ Krish: I have the exact problem as mentioned by you. the noise comes and goes but is a very irritating sound. Its not the heat plate got it checked that day. The Bajaj guys also said there is nothing wrong with the engine but a noise from the exhaust area.
The main reason to get worried was that i use the bike 70kms daily & also do frequent trips to Mumbai over the weekend.Plan to give it for servicing next week. Lets hope it all gets resolved then

The internal welds of the of your bend pipe near the exhaust manifold might have given way, its a common problem with the older 220 exhausts, especially the Fi ones. It can be welded back together, but it will not hold for long.

But I am guess this is your issue, mine had this problem frequently with a lot of exhausts.

But do check for a loose nuts on the heat shield for the exhaust and the nuts which can come loose under the exhaust-tec box.

**vkuchhal** · 03-12-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

That box is the exhaust-tec box which is present on both the Fi & Dts-i. The cat-con is placed elsewhere in the exhaust. And yes the original Fi exhaust did not have a Cat con, and thats why it made the awesome throaty roar which is absent on the 220 Dts-i. But if any of the Fi owners have changed their exhausts in the last 2 years then its a Cat-conned exhaust that they are running.

The internal welds of the of your bend pipe near the exhaust manifold might have given way, its a common problem with the older 220 exhausts, especially the Fi ones. It can be welded back together, but it will not hold for long.

But I am guess this is your issue, mine had this problem frequently with a lot of exhausts.

But do check for a loose nuts on the heat shield for the exhaust and the nuts which can come loose under the exhaust-tec box.

What is a Cat con??? If it the same a short form of catalytic converter.. then how can Fi miss on that... No 2 wheeler or 4 wheeler is allowed in the market without the Catalytic converter..

**Praful** · 03-12-2012, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post

What is a Cat con??? If it the same a short form of catalytic converter.. then how can Fi miss on that... No 2 wheeler or 4 wheeler is allowed in the market without the Catalytic converter..

Neither the 220 Fi nor the RTR 160 Fi have Cat-con's in their exhausts. (You will notice this from a throaty exhaust note they produce due to a lesser restrictive exhaust)

Apparently, the Fi keeps emission in check. This is as per the manufacturer.

**vkuchhal** · 03-12-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Praful View Post

Neither the 220 Fi nor the RTR 160 Fi have Cat-con's in their exhausts. (You will notice this from a throaty exhaust note they produce due to a lesser restrictive exhaust)

Apparently, the Fi keeps emission in check. This is as per the manufacturer.

The below 2 links show that the Fi comes with catalytic converter..

Pulsar 220 vs karizma zmr | - (To increase the performance of the engine they have come up with a larger resonator and catalytic converter.)

Bajaj Pulsar 220 review | BAJAJ (a modified intake port, high lift cams, a larger resonator and a bigger catalytic converter were the other modifications that aided in generating more power giving Pulsar 220 the best power-to-weight ratio.)

**Praful** · 03-12-2012, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post

The below 2 links show that the Fi comes with catalytic converter..

Pulsar 220 vs karizma zmr | - (To increase the performance of the engine they have come up with a larger resonator and catalytic converter.)

Bajaj Pulsar 220 review | BAJAJ (a modified intake port, high lift cams, a larger resonator and a bigger catalytic converter were the other modifications that aided in generating more power giving Pulsar 220 the best power-to-weight ratio.)

The Pulsar 220 Dts-i has a cat-con. Not the Fi! Both those links talk about the 220 Dts-i!

You will not find a link on the internet where Bajaj claims to have not had a cat-con. This will only be know if one has spent time at SVC centers when these bike's are being serviced.

**Abhishek Mushran** · 03-12-2012, 05:21 PM

The internal welds of the of your bend pipe near the exhaust manifold might have given way, its a common problem with the older 220 exhausts, especially the Fi ones. It can be welded back together, but it will not hold for long.

But I am guess this is your issue, mine had this problem frequently with a lot of exhausts.

But do check for a loose nuts on the heat shield for the exhaust and the nuts which can come loose under the exhaust-tec box.[/QUOTE]

Hi Thanks Praful.

THats exactly what the service station guys told me that the internal pipe has to be welded.Also i noticed that because of this there is a drop in the pick up of the bike. Is that normal ?
I have already titened the nuts next to the heat shield so pretty sure the noise is not from there

**Praful** · 03-12-2012, 10:41 PM

Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

Hi Thanks Praful.

THats exactly what the service station guys told me that the internal pipe has to be welded.Also i noticed that because of this there is a drop in the pick up of the bike. Is that normal ?
I have already titened the nuts next to the heat shield so pretty sure the noise is not from there

Yes there will be a drop in performance once the exhaust starts cracking up.

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**kustomizer_me** · 03-13-2012, 02:07 AM

Fuel PUMP!

hey bikers....I am facing a problem in my bike. My bike doesn't rev afta 4000 rpm. It sounds like its not getting the proper fuel intake to the engine. Like it feels the bike is choking and going to die. I took it to the ProBiking in Chennai, they told me the fuel pump is not working and have to get it replaced. But they told me they don't have the spares and they are asking me to convert it to carburetor type. I am owning a P220 FI 2007 Model. And yesterday I tried starting the bike. No chance. Apparently even the Engine ON Switch, whn I turn it ON dat sound doesn't come where the fuel pumps to the engine and it doesn't start. What do I do? I really Miss Riding it.! My Bike ODO Reading is 35000 kms exact. Please Do Help ME!

**Mik** · 03-13-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by kustomizer_me View Post

hey bikers....I am facing a problem in my bike. My bike doesn't rev afta 4000 rpm. It sounds like its not getting the proper fuel intake to the engine. Like it feels the bike is choking and going to die. I took it to the ProBiking in Chennai, they told me the fuel pump is not working and have to get it replaced. But they told me they don't have the spares and they are asking me to convert it to carburetor type. I am owning a P220 FI 2007 Model. And yesterday I tried starting the bike. No chance. Apparently even the Engine ON Switch, whn I turn it ON dat sound doesn't come where the fuel pumps to the engine and it doesn't start. What do I do? I really Miss Riding it.! My Bike ODO Reading is 35000 kms exact. Please Do Help ME!

I hope its not a battery issue. Your probiking should have a battery tester equipment. Do get it checked.
Also, fuel pump is generally not stocked. But, if you place an order for it, you will get it in a week or two. If in NCR, check the probikings of gurgaon and noida too. I had to get mine changed and finally found three in stock in the gurgaon probiking.

**Praful** · 03-13-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by kustomizer_me View Post

hey bikers....I am facing a problem in my bike. My bike doesn't rev afta 4000 rpm. It sounds like its not getting the proper fuel intake to the engine. Like it feels the bike is choking and going to die. I took it to the ProBiking in Chennai, they told me the fuel pump is not working and have to get it replaced. But they told me they don't have the spares and they are asking me to convert it to carburetor type. I am owning a P220 FI 2007 Model. And yesterday I tried starting the bike. No chance. Apparently even the Engine ON Switch, whn I turn it ON dat sound doesn't come where the fuel pumps to the engine and it doesn't start. What do I do? I really Miss Riding it.! My Bike ODO Reading is 35000 kms exact. Please Do Help ME!

If your fuel pump is not priming when you switch ON the kill switch, then first check for a battery/RR unit failure before going to a fuel pump. Try swapping your battery with another working 220Fi to eliminate that as one of the probable causes.

But if it is really the fuel pump then you would have to wait for a while before you get it. Even here in Bangalore there were 2 bikes lying in the SVC center for about a month because the pump was not in stock. It will be more expensive to actually convert your bike to carb!

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