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  • Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    And forgive me, the first part was so good, I am literally ROTFL. And as Praful said, it's a wise idea to think before buying Joel's FFE. Personally all the bla bla I am hearing is just useless, yes, because it's a FFE, a literally a *can* with pipe. If you can spend close to 9k, then why don't you get yourself the stock one, which will be your best bet. Go for FFE if you own a DTSI and not a DTSI FI

    Cheers!
    VJ
    really? did you ride a bike with Joel's FFE?
    Last edited by anilupadhya; 07-03-2012, 12:38 AM. Reason: took the emotional quotient out of it

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    • Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
      Sorry, i waited 10 mins before replying to this post. Counted from 1 to 50 to control my emotions. But really, have you had the opportunity to ride a bike with Joel's FFE? Do you think a piece of pipe with a can at the end will sell just like that? Do you know what is scavenging and how it is attained?
      Do you know what is reliability and engine life..
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      • Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
        really? did you ride a bike with Joel's FFE?
        Originally posted by yuv_biKING View Post
        Do you know what is reliability and engine life..
        Hey, Anil calm down man, people can ***** about anything and I mean literally about anything. Please read the post carefully. I am not against Joel FFE, big bore all that stuffs. Indeed I myself have asked Joel for the price with the BBK and FFE. But riding a FFE of my friends, yes, there is power, yes there is *slightly* improved top end, and yes it costs close to a stock one.

        And my view was absolutely and clear cut stating, *in my view*. I don't think it's a useless investment, but ultimately it's a useless investment. Not to diss anyone who is using it or gonna buy it. Everyone is unique

        And Yuv was correct too. In my humble opinion I do know what is scavenging and it is in now way regarded to the topic you've bought regarding FFE
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • Originally posted by yuv_biKING View Post
          Do you know what is reliability and engine life..
          Help me understand Yuv, Given that you have an engine with absolute perfect AFR with good combustion.. what you are doing with a ffe is helping it breathe better. your exhaust gases is pushed out even freely. in what way does it effect the reliability. The only way I see myself screwing up my engine is by constantly revving the engine to the max because its capable of doing it much better than the stock exhaust. Anyone peaking their revs constantly is gonna hamper the reliability of the engine, be it stock or with a FFE.

          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
          Hey, Anil calm down man, people can ***** about anything and I mean literally about anything. Please read the post carefully. I am not against Joel FFE, big bore all that stuffs. Indeed I myself have asked Joel for the price with the BBK and FFE. But riding a FFE of my friends, yes, there is power, yes there is *slightly* improved top end, and yes it costs close to a stock one.

          And my view was absolutely and clear cut stating, *in my view*. I don't think it's a useless investment, but ultimately it's a useless investment. Not to diss anyone who is using it or gonna buy it. Everyone is unique

          And Yuv was correct too. In my humble opinion I do know what is scavenging and it is in now way regarded to the topic you've bought regarding FFE
          Quite frankly VJ, I dont mind dissing you off cuz all I hear from you is BLA BLA BLA

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          • Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post

            Quite frankly VJ, I dont mind dissing you off cuz all I hear from you is BLA BLA BLA
            You need to grow up, Anil. PERIOD. Peace out

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              You need to grow up, Anil. PERIOD. Peace out

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Oh,, you ought to read your posts yourself to see who needs to grow up.. scavenging and not related to exhaust????. this is something only grownups will understand..
              read this and grow up.

              Originally posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavenging_(automotive)
              In automotive usage, scavenging is the process of pushing exhausted gas-charge out of the cylinder and drawing in a fresh draught of air ready for the next cycle.
              This process is essential in having a smooth-running internal combustion engine. Modifying the exhaust system, (i.e. modifying the exhaust gas velocity by changing exhaust tube diameters) can detract from the "ideal" scavenging effects, and reduce fuel efficiency and power if not properly planned out and executed.
              To increase scavenging potential, the entire path from intake to exhaust (i.e. all powertrain parts) to tailpipe must be tuned in sync with each other. This will ensure that the air flow is never interrupted. The acceleration and deceleration of this exhaust gas is what will hinder the scavenging potential.
              For example, fast flowing heads and a tunnel ram intake combined with a poorly planned camshaft and exhaust system will cause the air to "slow down" and "speed up" throughout its journey, thus reducing its scavenging potential. So, to increase scavenging potential, the air must maintain a positive linear acceleration curve
              His exhausts are tuned.

              Bah! some people cant take someone getting successful in what he is doing.

              okay!! i am out of here.. dont want to take on this Joel fight in a thread dedicated to ownership experience of 220 dts-fi.
              Last edited by anilupadhya; 07-03-2012, 12:33 AM.

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              • Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
                Help me understand Yuv, Given that you have an engine with absolute perfect AFR with good combustion.. what you are doing with a ffe is helping it breathe better. your exhaust gases is pushed out even freely. in what way does it effect the reliability. The only way I see myself screwing up my engine is by constantly revving the engine to the max because its capable of doing it much better than the stock exhaust. Anyone peaking their revs constantly is gonna hamper the reliability of the engine, be it stock or with a FFE.
                I have clocked 55K KMs so far and the engine still runs smooth without any issues so far. I have toured confidently Mumbai-Chennai stretch(Odo read -45XXX KMs already) and that was a serious endurance test for my bike and myself, red-lined continuously for 350 KMs Bangalore-Chennai for 3.10 hrs. All that I did was with full confidence. After all this my belief on stock is more.
                I am looking for such kind of endure and longterm ownership experience on FFE. I love to have that extra mileage and power if I can get some confidence on that buy.
                Last edited by yuv_biKING; 07-03-2012, 12:34 AM.
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                • Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
                  Oh,, you ought to read your posts yourself to see who needs to grow up.. scavenging and not related to exhaust.. this is something only grownups will understand..
                  read this and grow up.
                  Oh god, I can't even believe I am typing this. Anil. The reason I told your scavenging post was not related to FFE is the way you answered the first post which was about usability and the likeliness of the product, not the way the product was supposed to work

                  If you have a point, write it politely, not the way you want to shove it down one's throat.

                  I am not gonna argue about this silly issue, it's all in one's attitude. And please don't bash everyone just so you can bash everyone. Maintain your goodwill and it will gain you even more knowledge than you intend to.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                  The girl said, 'NO!'


                  And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                  THE END

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                  • Originally posted by yuv_biKING View Post
                    I have clocked 55K KMs so far and the engine still runs smooth without any issues so far. I have toured confidently Mumbai-Chennai stretch(Odo read -45XXX KMs already) and that was a serious endurance test for my bike and myself, red-lined continuously for 350 KMs Bangalore-Chennai for 3.10 hrs. All that I did was with full confidence. After all this my belief on stock is more.
                    I am looking for such kind of endure and longterm ownership experience on FFE. I love to have that extra mileage and power if I can get some confidence on that buy.
                    So what would happen if I do the same on a FFE?

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                    • Folks there is a thread for everyone to break their heads over the above discussed topic...



                      ... Kindly continue head banging there!

                      PS: The 'tuned' mutants are yet to prove their long term (Read 25+K Kms) reliability.
                      Last edited by Praful; 07-03-2012, 12:39 AM.
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                      • Originally posted by Praful View Post
                        Folks there is a thread for everyone to break their heads over the above discussed topic...



                        ... Kindly continue head banging there!
                        Over and out, it's done. No point banging a anymore. Damn I hate myself for this mess. #@$#@

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                        The girl said, 'NO!'


                        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                        THE END

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                        • Originally posted by Praful View Post
                          Folks there is a thread for everyone to break their heads over the above discussed topic...



                          ... Kindly continue head banging there!

                          PS: The 'tuned' mutants are yet to prove their long term (Read 25+K Kms) reliability.
                          Really dint want to have an argument on this thread.. but no one would have gotten away with such a statement on the the dedicated thread.

                          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                          And forgive me, the first part was so good, I am literally ROTFL. And as Praful said, it's a wise idea to think before buying Joel's FFE. Personally all the bla bla I am hearing is just useless, yes, because it's a FFE, a literally a *can* with pipe. If you can spend close to 9k, then why don't you get yourself the stock one, which will be your best bet. Go for FFE if you own a DTSI and not a DTSI FI

                          Cheers!
                          VJ

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                          • Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
                            So what would happen if I do the same on a FFE?
                            If any such experience shared, we would advice pbk to have it on their spares section

                            Originally posted by Praful View Post
                            Folks there is a thread for everyone to break their heads over the above discussed topic...



                            ... Kindly continue head banging there!
                            ROFLMAO

                            Originally posted by Praful View Post
                            PS: The 'tuned' mutants are yet to prove their long term (Read 25+K Kms) reliability.
                            Originally posted by anilupadhya View Post
                            Really dint want to have an argument on this thread.. but no one would have gotten away with such a statement on the the dedicated thread.
                            Arguements are in a way good if the participants keep their ears open for other's opinion. Please feel free to share your longterm experince with FFE,when you have done that. Our prejudicial minds shall heal
                            Last edited by yuv_biKING; 07-03-2012, 12:21 PM. Reason: '
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                            • hey guys can anyone shed some light on bike security systems??? some of them said it cant be installed on pulsar 220 fi . is it true??? ,if it can be installed, will i be risking on electricals, ive shortlisted on a xenon security system(which also has a remote start)
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                              • Originally posted by Roystandbz View Post
                                hey guys can anyone shed some light on bike security systems??? some of them said it cant be installed on pulsar 220 fi . is it true??? ,if it can be installed, will i be risking on electricals, ive shortlisted on a xenon security system(which also has a remote start)
                                It can be installed but "Be aware and Be prepared for the battery drain". Risking electricals is upto the installer, also if you are not in/dont care about warranty then decision is yours.
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