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**Sird** · 06-20-2013, 07:00 AM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by jethmalani25 View Post

i wash my bike once a week due to mud splashes all over cos of rain, gently spray wd40 and leave it there.... unsure if this process is neat enuf to safeguard from rust...
any suggestion on ^how to keep away bike from rust^ due to heavy monsoon?

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Even I'm tired of this thing buddy in Mumbai.
Being new last year I had to pay 100rs for diesel wash (New to me in my lifetime till I came Mumbai)
and washing bike each week to get it clean & safe from rush but no matter how much you clean.
All it takes is 2 min. of rain :/

I guess we to have find some alternative for this.
Or we can add diesel ourself during washing also.
[MENTION=61028]whymail[/MENTION]
Anything from your experience here ?
How to save bike from Rush ?

Even I'd never seen my bike rusting but Mumbai mein dekh lia !

**whymail** · 06-20-2013, 07:45 AM

Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

[MENTION=54751]Sird[/MENTION] : dunno abt others but I get a Teflon coat for external panels done @ the service. I also apply the antirust solution on all parts that appear to be made of shiny steel / chrome plated viz exhaust, handlebars, leg guards, all the nuts n bolts that are exposed, etc. (i use the dark brown colored one - u get 2 variations) before the rains begin n allow it to dry for 30 mins. Yes, this makes the bike look ugly but that's the only way to keep it free of rust. One application lasts usually for 3 months. Once the monsoons are over (September) I use a glass of petrol & an old tooth brush to clean out the antitrust solution. Bajaj service also does an antirust treatment by applying a transparent silicon gel (which lasts for a few weeks... not as effective as the antirust solution). Washing the engine bay, underbody etc thoroughly every 2 days also helps. Safer approach... I don't ride in rains ;-)

**Sird** · 06-20-2013, 08:16 AM

Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

Originally posted by whymail View Post

@Sird : dunno abt others but I get a Teflon coat for external panels done @ the service. I also apply the antirust solution on all parts that appear to be made of shiny steel / chrome plated viz exhaust, handlebars, leg guards, all the nuts n bolts that are exposed, etc. (i use the dark brown colored one - u get 2 variations) before the rains begin n allow it to dry for 30 mins. Yes, this makes the bike look ugly but that's the only way to keep it free of rust. One application lasts usually for 3 months. Once the monsoons are over (September) I use a glass of petrol & an old tooth brush to clean out the antitrust solution. Bajaj service also does an antirust treatment by applying a transparent silicon gel (which lasts for a few weeks... not as effective as the antirust solution). Washing the engine bay, underbody etc thoroughly every 2 days also helps. Safer approach... I don't ride in rains ;-)

Oh hell yea. I've seen those brownish coating in bullet, avenger, and many bikes.
And I thought its some premanent thing.
Oh. !

**jethmalani25** · 06-20-2013, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Sird View Post

Oh hell yea. I've seen those brownish coating in bullet, avenger, and many bikes.
And I thought its some premanent thing.
Oh. !

i dont think that brownish coating is advisable, keep away is what many ppl have been telling...some ppl suggest that we mix half a litre diesel, half a litre 2T oil and spray it all over, unsure how safe or effective this is but most bullet users recommend this...

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Originally posted by whymail View Post

@Sird : dunno abt others but I get a Teflon coat for external panels done @ the service. I also apply the antirust solution on all parts that appear to be made of shiny steel / chrome plated viz exhaust, handlebars, leg guards, all the nuts n bolts that are exposed, etc. (i use the dark brown colored one - u get 2 variations) before the rains begin n allow it to dry for 30 mins. Yes, this makes the bike look ugly but that's the only way to keep it free of rust. One application lasts usually for 3 months. Once the monsoons are over (September) I use a glass of petrol & an old tooth brush to clean out the antitrust solution. Bajaj service also does an antirust treatment by applying a transparent silicon gel (which lasts for a few weeks... not as effective as the antirust solution). Washing the engine bay, underbody etc thoroughly every 2 days also helps. Safer approach... I don't ride in rains ;-)

would you be able to provide name of that ^transparent solicon gel^...i think i have had it applied once in d past but dont know its name.

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**jammbuster** · 06-20-2013, 11:59 AM

Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

HI Frds,

I need some good advice again.

Currently i am having Yahama SZR (which is only 9 month old) , though i am never happy with the mileage part its hover around 40kmpl. So, I was thinking if somehow I will be getting mileage around 40kmpl.. why dont I will move to some bigger bike like pulsar 220 (not 200ns - as i dont like the shape i am big fan of semi fairing).

So, please advice. budget is around 1 lacs which may be extended only upto 1.10 lacs... I will be using this 80% for highway or weekend drive with my wife

as i am now having CNG fitted Car with me

Regarding my physic... i am 6.3" tall, weight around 97kgs

1) i like pulsar 220
2) ZMR

So , please put some lights on performance, availability of spare part or cost of ownership

Which bike is lighter on pocket..????? but does not compromise on performance.

**whymail** · 06-20-2013, 12:10 PM

Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

[MENTION=59412]jethmalani25[/MENTION] : whether to use the antirust or not, is entirely an individual discretion. it's worked for me for all my bikes for last 24 years

regret that i dont know the name of the transparent silicon gel spray - that antirust treatment was carried out by bajaj service & they didnt give out a name.
also, understand that the stuff that hits ur cowls, fenders, underbody, everything is a weird mix of oil, grease, dust, tiny sharp stones & whatnot all jelled together as 'mud'

in that context, having a mixture of 2T + Diesel will last @ the max just a couple of days if not less - this is my personal opinion

i've also tried all of the below [very expensive] products over the years & they all work amazingly well.
Nanoprotech Cycle Spray [meant for bicycles but i've used it for motorcycles too]
ACF-50 [Anti-Corrosion Formula] Motorcycle And Automotive All Metal Anti-Corrosion Spray
Wurth & 3M Antirust treatments [which are pretty much thicker yet technically advanced & imported variations of the darkbrown antirust sold on the market]
cant afford these anymore so have gone back to my tried n tested antirust stuff

**B7ACKTHORN** · 06-20-2013, 10:47 PM

Re: Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi

Originally posted by Dreamwalker987 View Post

one silly question....can we spray WD40 on electrical of our FI bikes?..i have zero knowledge!

It 100% can be used. After all, WD40 is used to remove rust, loosen parts, and to an extent protector metal surfaces from forming rust again. Talk about SUPERMAN in a bottle, that's WD 40.

But even superman needs Krypton right, and so does it can't be used in all instances, but yes 90% of the stuffs. And you can obviously use it on any metal surface on the bike for the above mentioned reasons.

Originally posted by jammbuster View Post

HI Frds,

I need some good advice again.

Currently i am having Yahama SZR (which is only 9 month old) , though i am never happy with the mileage part its hover around 40kmpl. So, I was thinking if somehow I will be getting mileage around 40kmpl.. why dont I will move to some bigger bike like pulsar 220 (not 200ns - as i dont like the shape i am big fan of semi fairing).

So, please advice. budget is around 1 lacs which may be extended only upto 1.10 lacs... I will be using this 80% for highway or weekend drive with my wife

as i am now having CNG fitted Car with me

Regarding my physic... i am 6.3" tall, weight around 97kgs

1) i like pulsar 220
2) ZMR

So , please put some lights on performance, availability of spare part or cost of ownership

Which bike is lighter on pocket..????? but does not compromise on performance.

Your question has been answered in the 220 DTSI thread, have a look at it.

**Giftonsamuel** · 06-21-2013, 07:14 PM

Re: Break down!!!

Checked the battery showed 11.xx to 12.xx while in off position and after igniition 12.xx to 13.xx.
BATTERY IS FINE AS OF TODAY

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feeling i too face the same problem ^^

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

which relay was sparking bro?? the black one?? if it was sparking...then thats cause theres too much load comin on the relay causin it to get srort circuited ......... ecu 3.9. error comes when u have a loose connection...that means ya fuse has been blown off...check the fuse in frnt of the battery.....right of battery...its enclosed in a small box...like a black mint sized box(smaller in fact) get it changed..its a no.15 fuse...buy spares.... ...plus what happens is that when theres a loose conn or short fuse...or short relay....the ecu senses the missing link...and puts the bike on standstill.....since the fi has 11 sensors in total.......this leads to battery discharge too.....get ya battery charged....did u try tartin by shortin the relay?? (metal canister relay = starter relay) ....and check if the black relay(electrical relay for engine running) is heating and fuming.....guess ya pump is kaput too...do exactly what i posted in the above comments......and update me..
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the 3.9 came up only when i was trying to remove the black relay .
and i checked and couldnt able to locate fuse box.
found some black ,blue boxes which was enclosed in a stupid clip boxes which was difficult to remove .
will try to remove by tomorrow with help of friends and check .

Originally posted by Dreamwalker987 View Post

yes rusty visible electricals...most of the time my bike is parked in open space in rain. so i thought WD40 will help keep the rust away.
actually i am facing battery discharge problem.
last sunday i found battery got discharged out of nowhere and after recharging it was working good.
suddenly today on 1st start-up afternoon time bike refused to start and low battery indicator started displaying.
i tried my luck in the evening and bike started in 1st self start.

i too faced the same problem before two months but few days back it stopped in the middle of the road and let me stranded

**fernsruben** · 06-21-2013, 08:51 PM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

Checked the battery showed 11.xx to 12.xx while in off position and after igniition 12.xx to 13.xx.
BATTERY IS FINE AS OF TODAY

Pulsar Engine dies randomly. - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/26389-pulsar-engine-dies-randomly.html

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feeling i too face the same problem ^^

the 3.9 came up only when i was trying to remove the black relay .
and i checked and couldnt able to locate fuse box.
found some black ,blue boxes which was enclosed in a stupid clip boxes which was difficult to remove .
will try to remove by tomorrow with help of friends and check .

i too faced the same problem before two months but few days back it stopped in the middle of the road and let me stranded

then its either relat or fuse..

**Giftonsamuel** · 06-22-2013, 12:29 AM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

then its either relat or fuse..

h0w to locate the fuse karizma had a small box full of fuses under seat.but opening pulsar side is like playing JUMANJI for me.wire wires every were !!!plus that relay costs just 120 bucks but the guy at pbk couldnt get what i was saying to him.he was repeating LOOSE CONTACT NO PROBLEM IN RELAY even after telling that i had unscrewed it.will change it when i change disk pad

**fernsruben** · 06-23-2013, 01:04 PM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

h0w to locate the fuse karizma had a small box full of fuses under seat.but opening pulsar side is like playing JUMANJI for me.wire wires every were !!!plus that relay costs just 120 bucks but the guy at pbk couldnt get what i was saying to him.he was repeating LOOSE CONTACT NO PROBLEM IN RELAY even after telling that i had unscrewed it.will change it when i change disk pad

120 bucks??? rubbish...it costs only 110 rs...the 12o rs one is for p 180 ...not p220...the 180 cc relay causes engine jerks................the fuse is next to the battery....like a small mint box...black in colour.....its got a 15 amps fuse.... nif that doesn't work...no electricals of the bike will work....

**B7ACKTHORN** · 06-24-2013, 07:12 PM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

120 bucks??? rubbish...it costs only 110 rs...the 12o rs one is for p 180 ...not p220...the 180 cc relay causes engine jerks................the fuse is next to the battery....like a small mint box...black in colour.....its got a 15 amps fuse.... nif that doesn't work...no electricals of the bike will work....

Originally posted by Giftonsamuel View Post

h0w to locate the fuse karizma had a small box full of fuses under seat.but opening pulsar side is like playing JUMANJI for me.wire wires every were !!!plus that relay costs just 120 bucks but the guy at pbk couldnt get what i was saying to him.he was repeating LOOSE CONTACT NO PROBLEM IN RELAY even after telling that i had unscrewed it.will change it when i change disk pad

Exactly. There are two fuses one below the starer coil and the one on top of the bike battery comparment, I am talking about DTSI not FI. But in both bikes they are kinda the master fuse, and if it blows all electricals are diffused. And that has happened to many people where the bike just goes dead without any warning.

Cheers!
VJ

**Giftonsamuel** · 06-25-2013, 05:19 PM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Exactly. There are two fuses one below the starer coil and the one on top of the bike battery comparment, I am talking about DTSI not FI. But in both bikes they are kinda the master fuse, and if it blows all electricals are diffused. And that has happened to many people where the bike just goes dead without any warning.

Cheers!
VJ

will check that...

Originally posted by fernsruben View Post

120 bucks??? rubbish...it costs only 110 rs...the 12o rs one is for p 180 ...not p220...the 180 cc relay causes engine jerks................the fuse is next to the battery....like a small mint box...black in colour.....its got a 15 amps fuse.... nif that doesn't work...no electricals of the bike will work....

he said me an approx price bro....will conform and say while changing it..

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indicates PULSAR 375 @1.6L
so R.I.P CBR!!!!

**abhifusion** · 06-26-2013, 01:43 AM

Re: Break down!!!

I'm thinking to change wiring harness of bike by myself... Is it a difficult job ??
Malfunction light is always on while riding, local mech has blocked the small pipe coming from throttle body since bike was shutting off few seconds after glowing of the malfunction light... Now it does not shut off but exhaust sounds weird !

**B7ACKTHORN** · 06-26-2013, 05:33 PM

Re: Break down!!!

Originally posted by abhifusion View Post

I'm thinking to change wiring harness of bike by myself... Is it a difficult job ??
Malfunction light is always on while riding, local mech has blocked the small pipe coming from throttle body since bike was shutting off few seconds after glowing of the malfunction light... Now it does not shut off but exhaust sounds weird !

No it isn't but you can screw it up if it misplaced or missed especially on a FI where wiring *IS* an extension of its nerves. Better get it replaced it from your local SVC for peace of mind and you don't want to undo the tank if you accidentally forgot to join some links.

Cheers!
VJ

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