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  • #18016
    Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
    This is good info, Saw the plug pics, When was the plug last replaced , It looks very worn out.
    Also since engine is untouched, only thing that can go wrong is compression. Get your compression checked. If its any lower than 180 psi on gauge its loosing compression.
    Thanks again for your time.

    Plug was not changed since last 2 yrs. as it was fuctioning well. (Plug still functioning well but i have changed just for satisfaction)

    Also the air filter is not changed till now. Will have to change or not, if it is working fine?

    Where to go for checkup of compression psi? Auth.Serv.Centr? & if the compression is weak than what measures have to be taken?

    Is there any relation between excess heating and weak compression?
    Last edited by Saleh Talha; 06-09-2016, 03:56 PM.

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    • #18017
      Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
      Ah, that clarifies it. All these days I thought we measured static psi. And I never considered AFR either.
      Put a goddamned compression guage to the engine and check it. Simple.

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      • #18018
        Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
        Put a goddamned compression guage to the engine and check it. Simple.
        Still confused, how guage is used with engine?

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        • #18019
          Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by Saleh Talha View Post
          Still confused, how guage is used with engine?
          Take a compression guage. Remove the spark plug from the engine. Attach the guage to the plug hole. Kick/crank the engine. You would have the compression reading.

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          • #18020
            Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by Saleh Talha View Post
            Plug was not changed since last 2 yrs. as it was fuctioning well. (Plug still functioning well but i have changed just for satisfaction)

            Also the air filter is not changed till now. Will have to change or not, if it is working fine?
            Dear sir,

            Leave compression alone. You're running on 57000+ km old air filter and spark plug?
            Please read the ownership manual if you got one.

            Air filter must be changed every 10k km or less depending upon the prevailing conditions.
            Spark plug must be changed every 12k km no questions asked.

            Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
            Put a goddamned compression guage to the engine and check it. Simple.
            Why so serious? It's not a Bajaj engine that I keep doing all these useless antics to it! Its a precious Hero Honda.
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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            • #18021
              Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              Dear sir,

              Leave compression alone. You're running on 57000+ km old air filter and spark plug?
              Please read the ownership manual if you got one.

              Air filter must be changed every 10k km or less depending upon the prevailing conditions.
              Spark plug must be changed every 12k km no questions asked.



              Why so serious? It's not a Bajaj engine that I keep doing all these useless antics to it! Its a precious Hero Honda.
              I know.. I know... Bajaj bikes go to mechs. Your "hero" bikes go to doctors.

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              • #18022
                Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
                I know.. I know... Bajaj bikes go to mechs. Your "hero" bikes go to doctors.

                Sent from my XT1033 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                ya i know a few doctors who can solve "ANYTHING" .
                Yamaha RXZ 5 speed (sold)
                Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS fi( sold)
                Bajaj Discover 112(2006)
                Yamaha R15 V2(2011)
                Yezdi 250 model B(1978)
                RX 135 4 speed(1998)
                Yamaha Rajdoot 350(1989-unrestored)
                Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2011)Crashed and sold :'(
                Bajaj Pulsar 220 DTS-i (2009-Fastest Indian)

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                • #18023
                  Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by black asp View Post
                  ya i know a few doctors who can solve "ANYTHING" .
                  Wo doctor nahi bhagwan hain sahab...

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                  • #18024
                    Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Dear sir,

                    Leave compression alone. You're running on 57000+ km old air filter and spark plug?
                    Please read the ownership manual if you got one.

                    Air filter must be changed every 10k km or less depending upon the prevailing conditions.
                    Spark plug must be changed every 12k km no questions asked.
                    +1 Was on verge of replying this . Get a good service done.

                    Change fluids
                    Change plug and Air filter
                    Lubricate chain and wheel bearings.
                    Change Choke cable. (will tell later why)
                    Set Tappets according to spec
                    Check cable slack and tighten chain to spec

                    Done.
                    Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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                    • #18025
                      Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                      Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                      Dear sir,

                      Leave compression alone. You're running on 57000+ km old air filter and spark plug?
                      Please read the ownership manual if you got one.

                      Air filter must be changed every 10k km or less depending upon the prevailing conditions.
                      Spark plug must be changed every 12k km no questions asked.
                      Thanks for ur time and being patient to me.

                      I've changed the spark plug already, however the air filter will be surely changed by today only.

                      please tell me What to do for the compression if it is found weak?

                      Thank you

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                      • #18026
                        Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                        +1 Was on verge of replying this . Get a good service done.

                        Change fluids
                        Change plug and Air filter
                        Lubricate chain and wheel bearings.
                        Change Choke cable. (will tell later why)
                        Set Tappets according to spec
                        Check cable slack and tighten chain to spec

                        Done.
                        Thanks for the response.

                        This all will be done as fast as possible.

                        I talked to a mechanic at my place, he is saying that your compression is lowered as a reason your bike's performance is decreased.

                        I asked him what to do of the low compression, he told me, replacing the valves and aiding parts with valves will solve the compression issue. Can i proceed as per mech. advice?

                        Thank you

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                        • #18027
                          Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by Saleh Talha View Post
                          Thanks for the response.

                          This all will be done as fast as possible.

                          I talked to a mechanic at my place, he is saying that your compression is lowered as a reason your bike's performance is decreased.

                          I asked him what to do of the low compression, he told me, replacing the valves and aiding parts with valves will solve the compression issue. Can i proceed as per mech. advice?

                          Thank you
                          Depends, Generally valves are lapped if bike has done 40-50k kms .Although you may opt for new valves.
                          Changing piston rings won't do any harm , only you will have to run in for 1-1.5k kms again at low speeds ( <5krpm) .
                          These two should take care of compression loss if any.
                          But first change air filter and see, probably performance should increase a bit.
                          Carb Tuning made easy (Thanks Sibun !)

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                          • #18028
                            Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                            Guys, I have completed 35k kms, since 10k odo I am using shell ax7 full synthetic oil and change it every 3k intervals. Can I switch back to any good mineral oil safely because now a days my daily riding is not much?

                            Any special thing need to be done like engine flush etc before putting back mineral oil?

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                            • #18029
                              Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                              Depends, Generally valves are lapped if bike has done 40-50k kms .Although you may opt for new valves.
                              Changing piston rings won't do any harm , only you will have to run in for 1-1.5k kms again at low speeds ( <5krpm) .
                              These two should take care of compression loss if any.
                              But first change air filter and see, probably performance should increase a bit.
                              Thanks all for valuable advices.

                              I will proceed as per advices provided to me.

                              one thing want to know that which oil will be best for my bike? once ajextreme suggested me rimula oil.

                              Thank you.

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                              • #18030
                                Re: Karizma/Karizma R Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by ankit.traveller View Post
                                Any special thing need to be done like engine flush etc before putting back mineral oil?
                                Although I used Mobil1 FS oil long back, but I didn't do any flushing of any sort. My ODO may have been at 20k mark then and I went from FS to mineral directly. Didn't face issues.

                                Originally posted by Saleh Talha View Post
                                one thing want to know that which oil will be best for my bike? once ajextreme suggested me rimula oil.
                                Use any oil other than Castrol. Also, do NOT use w50 grade oil.

                                In short, you may use any 'non Castrol' - 10w30 oil, 10w40 oil, 15w40 oil or 20w40 oil.
                                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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