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**Vishakh** · 01-05-2012, 09:19 PM

For getting neutral gear just release the clutch( slowly) so that the bike starts to move forward and then again pull it back and on that moment just pull the gear calmly into neutral i do it like this

**shubhamAT** · 01-05-2012, 10:03 PM

Thanks guys, will try fixing the buzzer in daylight. Btw, i dont have a GF as well. You know once bitten twice shy!

**psr** · 01-05-2012, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by te05 View Post

Hi,
Despite being an old member, I've hardly expressed myself on this lovely forum, while regularly browsing through the 'talkies'.

I own a 2006 zma that has clocked 35K. Hardly using it for my daily commute to office for a long time now. I've been living with a long list of issues.

Before I list down, I must let know here that during all my long rides, these issues hardly bother me, only for the fuel consumption - just 25kmpl(It used to be better earlier despite all the ripping sessions)

Yesterday, I rode out to the market and was mightily pissed! and now I'm forced to write

One last, but important thing - The air-screw of carburetor was jammed a couple of years ago and was opened up by drilling and replaced. First, I felt the issue is because of tuning and got the air screw removed. Later any kind of tuning of the air screw has not helped, and I have sealed it with RTV Silcone sealant(Anabond 666T) in despair and that has not changed anything...

Help me please

If You had removed the air screw please put it back with the "O"ring and set it to 3.5 turns anticlockwise from fully clockwise stop....go through the thread,and you will find the solution...

**psr** · 01-05-2012, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by shubhamAT View Post

Thanks guys, will try fixing the buzzer in daylight. Btw, i dont have a GF as well. You know once bitten twice shy!

**psr** · 01-05-2012, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Sir, of you're referring to the previous post I had with ACS sir, then sadly there is a difference between pre 2011 ZMA and post 2011 ZMA, in the old ones the choke doesnt retract, where as in the new ones it does, thats why I dis-agreed that we cant run with choke enabled in new ones.
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Not true..

**ashwinprakas** · 01-05-2012, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Not true..

Sir, here's what I mean.

2011 ZMA.
1. Pull choke lever down.
2. Let go.
3. Choke lever back to original position.

Pre-2011 ZMA.
1. Pull choke lever down.
2. Let go.
3. Nothing happens.

Thats what I meant by retracting, not the other kind of retracting which happens due to stuck cable when we turn the handle.

Its a cute feature, but with stock AFR setting its hell, cause it takes a lot of trials and idling to make the bike rideable, else as I said, bike cuts off when we throttle.

Notice how the bike stalls when he throttles, thats what I continuously face with stock AFR setting.

**pabi** · 01-05-2012, 10:57 PM

guys i am having this issue:

after a nice 20km ride i try to set the idle rpm to 1400 .. but when i try decelerate to change the gear RPM raises and then comes down. This doesn't happen in 5th gear when in decelerate . is this a jammed carb slider prob ? My AFR is at 4 full turns out from tightened position . When i make my idle rpm to 1000 this scenario doesn't happen but bike stalls when at signals and no throttle. Help me out guys been with this issue for many months

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**acs1207** · 01-05-2012, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

@ACS Sir,
Did the greasing, now I have a query. Will the battery drain if there's even a small contact between + and - ???
Yep.Even if there's a small contact 'tween + & - , the battery will drain . But you said you can self-start it normally . That'd mean the battery's not drained .
Its not logical, but somehow I suspect water/moisture because when I take my bike after parking overnight I see mosquitos flying from the front fairing gap. Has anyone else experienced this kind of shorts???
I keep a folded piece of cloth 'tween the visor gap . . . use it to wipe the seat when I've kept the bike near the road or something like that . You too can try it .

Originally posted by shubhamAT View Post

Thanks guys, will try fixing the buzzer in daylight. Btw, i dont have a GF as well. You know once bitten twice shy!

Better not let your wifey read it - or else she might giv u another bite !!

Originally posted by psr View Post

If You had removed the air screw please put it back with the "O"ring and set it to 3.5 turns anticlockwise from fully clockwise stop....go through the thread,and you will find the solution...

But he said he'd sealed the air screw spot . That's why I didn't mention it .

And as psr sir said , the answer is in the thread - it's been discussed and has been successfully trouble-shooted .

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Sir, here's what I mean.

2011 ZMA.
1. Pull choke lever down.
2. Let go.
3. Choke lever back to original position.

Pre-2011 ZMA.
1. Pull choke lever down.
2. Let go.
3. Nothing happens.

Thats what I meant by retracting, not the other kind of retracting which happens due to stuck cable when we turn the handle.

Its a cute feature, but with stock AFR setting its hell, cause it takes a lot of trials and idling to make the bike rideable, else as I said, bike cuts off when we throttle.

No comment about the 'auto choke-retraction ' .

The bike does take time warming up . If the AFR is rich then I guess the "warmth" ( or warming up time ) required isn't much . Also check the condition of the spark plug ( gotta check mine - haven't checked it since I changed to Iridium ) .

**ashwinprakas** · 01-05-2012, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by acs1207 View Post

Better not let your wifey read it - or else she might giv u another bite !!

For once in my life am proud of being a loner and a geek.

ONE MAN..ONE LIFE..MANY RIDES..NO WIVES.

No comment about the 'auto choke-retraction ' .

Lol, will post video tomorrow.
Actually am kind of amused by this, cause recently my long lost friend with the silver ZMA(2010) said that its a fault he noted with only my bike and that I should get it rectified immediately.

The bike does take time warming up . If the AFR is rich then I guess the "warmth" ( or warming up time ) required isn't much .

Yup, thats definitely it.

Also check the condition of the spark plug ( gotta check mine - haven't checked it since I changed to Iridium ) .

Same. In a way am scared I'll spoil my iridiums if I take it out.
And sir, since you use Iridiums, have you noticed a very very very minor lag in acceleration in 1st gear i.e when we start throttling. Its like after the lag the bike suddenly pops into power.

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**Vishakh** · 01-06-2012, 12:23 AM

Eh in my bike the choke doesn,t return like that

**ashwinprakas** · 01-06-2012, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Eh in my bike the choke doesn,t return like that

Defective piece. Get it replaced asap.

**sunny_** · 01-06-2012, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

To put it in neutral while engine running is simple, just accelerate and tap the gear lever. The shifting always tends to smoothen when the engine's in higher rpms.

I don't think its true. Plus straining engine and clutch plates just for finding neutral!?

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

For getting neutral gear just release the clutch( slowly) so that the bike starts to move forward and then again pull it back and on that moment just pull the gear calmly into neutral i do it like this

This is true. During the slight move try tapping the gear lever it will come in neutral. I think the system which connects linear and circular motion is responsible here that at a particular position you just can't shift to neutral while moving a bit you can.

Originally posted by Vishakh View Post

Eh in my bike the choke doesn,t return like that

Even I'm surprised to read what Ashwin is writing "retracting choke lever", I didn't find in my cousin's 2011 R

**ashwinprakas** · 01-06-2012, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

I don't think its true. Plus straining engine and clutch plates just for finding neutral!?

Hehe, I didnt mean taking the bike to WOT to find neutral, just meant a few revs. And the way you're talking about straining is as if we usually do triple digits while the bikes in idle.

This is true. During the slight move try tapping the gear lever it will come in neutral. I think the system which connects linear and circular motion is responsible here that at a particular position you just can't shift to neutral while moving a bit you can.

Its a bike, so every shift deserves de-clutching or if in idle atleast half of it, and that strictly applies for neutral as well. But thats common sense, right. Now about the gear being smoother at higher revs, its true, cause technically we're able to clutchless upshift with the least effort right??? But have you noticed that if we leave the throttle for too long then the gear'll grind, now people may argue about the transmission speed and drive speed, and I dont have enought technical knowledge to back it up, hence you've got me there. But keep in mind while the revs drop the lower gear is still engaged right, so that means transmission and drive speed are the same, but still when we upshift the transmission grinds, so hence proving that higher rpms have some play in the matter.

Even I'm surprised to read what Ashwin is writing "retracting choke lever", I didn't find in my cousin's 2011 R

Hehe. Your cousins is also damaged, get it replaced.

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**SriramEfunds** · 01-06-2012, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Hehe. Your cousins is also damaged, get it replaced.

Ashwin:- If you are posting counter argument, it is better to keep the fun off the topic and maintain professionalism as there are others apart from xbhphians read this thread.

For the neutral find :- It is the same as Sunny mentioned earlier. That's the method followed for my other bikes, infact most of the bikes, including N250R.

Choke retracting? - Sorry, I've not heard it at all nor tried mocking at the system.

**ashwinprakas** · 01-06-2012, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

Choke retracting? - Sorry, I've not heard it at all nor tried mocking at the system.

This is what am talking about.

C'mon people if you cant take my word on something so simple, then how are you going to believe me when I add turbo or something like that in the future.

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