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  • Originally posted by adityazma8315
    i hve 55/60w osram night breaker ne1 suggest me more powerful bulb 4 my zma r
    Please do not use SMS language to post . Higher than 50/60 watts is 90/100 watts . But it will burn your reflector, and hence not adviceable.
    Alternately you can try 50 watts HID of less than 4 K color temperature.
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • A halogen more powerful than the Nightbreaker for the ZMA? Don't think you will have many options. Consider upgrading to HID.
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      • Originally posted by Vishakh View Post
        is your bike under warranty? it is probably the cam tensioner i suppose well take it to the ASC to confirm eventhough they are of no use in trivandrum they are lazy and careless

        My Bike is 5 yrs old and done only 28k kms .i stopped visiting the svc after my 3rd free service. i'll be getting it inspected as soon as i collect the required parts.

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        • Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post
          i too have the same problem,the sound emanates when the bike is hot and is at 4k rpm,when i showed it to two mechanics,one of them said that it is due to improper fuel ratio,the otherone said that the timing pad in the zma is slightly broken and it oscillates making the sound.
          From what I had learn from MAXzma the timing chain guides/tensioner had gone bad thereby letting the timing chain run loose...causing this sound.send PM to him and he will be able to help
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • Why replace the tensioner ? It is supposed to last at least 20 k Kilometers.
            Cause of the chil chil sound, mentioned earlier by vaishak.

            Originally posted by BOND_001 View Post
            i too have the same problem,the sound emanates when the bike is hot and is at 4k rpm,when i showed it to two mechanics,one of them said that it is due to improper fuel ratio,the otherone said that the timing pad in the zma is slightly broken and it oscillates making the sound.
            You could get the tensioner replaced, if the sounds still there get the timing chain inspected.

            Originally posted by MAXzma View Post
            As many here would be knowing my ride had a full change of parts inside the engine head 3 weeks back. Checked out my AFR this weekend and it was around 6-7 turns. Guess the mech had made it rich for the K&N. No wonder my fuel efficiency was around 25 km/L under very sane riding(run in period). Also the engine was not peppy enough. The run in of 500 km is over now. Set it to 4 turns now and she returned 30 km/L with a bit harsh riding in the city. She was super quick when in 4 turns and very responsive! Now have set it to 3.5 and testing.
            At 4 turns am now getting 23kmpl????? And now bike tops out at 115kmph.
            And one for strange thing is at standstill my bike goes only upto 9.5k????
            And found what appears to be something similiar to oil stains near the head and crank case junction. Took bike to svc, they suggested to do the 2nd service abit early and they'll also look into the problems, one of the mechs suggest to check my timing chain, anyways will take the bike in on saturday.

            The reason I noticed the above were cause I'd lost a race to a stranger riding a P150..


            PSR Sir,Aneesh,Sriram,Max, Everyone!!! Please come to my rescue.
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

              At 4 turns am now getting 23kmpl????? And now bike tops out at 115kmph.
              And one for strange thing is at standstill my bike goes only upto 9.5k????
              And found what appears to be something similiar to oil stains near the head and crank case junction. Took bike to svc, they suggested to do the 2nd service abit early and they'll also look into the problems, one of the mechs suggest to check my timing chain, anyways will take the bike in on saturday.

              The reason I noticed the above were cause I'd lost a race to a stranger riding a P150..


              PSR Sir,Aneesh,Sriram,Max, Everyone!!! Please come to my rescue.
              9.5 K RPM is the Max RPM for ZMA when the cut off kicks in...Why are you doing Street Racing..Don't you know how dangerous it is to you and others on the road ? In future Kindly refrain from it.
              It is the rider who will make the biggest contribution to the bike's performance.
              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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              • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                At 4 turns am now getting 23kmpl????? And now bike tops out at 115kmph.
                And one for strange thing is at standstill my bike goes only upto 9.5k????
                And found what appears to be something similiar to oil stains near the head and crank case junction. Took bike to svc, they suggested to do the 2nd service abit early and they'll also look into the problems, one of the mechs suggest to check my timing chain, anyways will take the bike in on saturday.
                My observation/thoughts:-

                1. I would think you are too early with your ride expecting whole lot out of the bike.

                2. You should allow the engine to settle down a bit for at least 5000kms to make any changes to the carb (I mean tuning on AFR). It's ok for sometime if your bike not able to do the desired pick up. However, remember your engine is new and should take it up gradually.

                3. Racing :- It's not in my world of riding a bike, would still recommend to allow engine to run in smooth in a constant RPM. If were you, would gradually increase my cruising speed after doing some constant RPM. Not that I have not taken her past 110. It's how you imagine if the engine is strained or not.

                4. I had always kept my hands low on the engine even though there are scope to better the performance. Why? There need some run for the engine to adapt and respond to the tuning.

                5. Its a boon to have a biker forum with experts here to help how not a bike should be and what is expected. Having a fair idea on the boundaries and limitations ZMA-R, should consciously adhere to it.

                6. I'm not sure how much your bike done on the odo as of today, still would recommend to go slow on your experiments until you cross 5k on the odo to make changes from stock set up.

                7. Logically I might be wrong on some of my points here, would always respect the factory recommendations to suit the situation.

                8. Since the bike is under warranty, if I were you, will not shag my bike to void warranty just because I'm not able to go beyond 9.5k RPM or to seek top speed tests.

                9. Timing chain expected to lasts atleast 10k minimum. Imagine the abuse if you were to change it even before your second service.

                10. I understand the adranline rush everytime you ride the bike, you'll need to get sync with the bike and know what it is capable of to give some VFM. If you ever realize this, then there's nothing short of joy ride. This would elevate yourself to a better rider.

                I know my points are very generic and is not contributing a solution to your issue. May be after servicing, give some thoughts to the above points to avoid seeing youself in such situation in future.

                These are my personal thoughts.
                RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  Cause of the chil chil sound, mentioned earlier by vaishak.
                  I was also getting same chil chil sound in my bike after crossing 6k on odo.A local mechanic told me that it is Cam tensioner sound and I ve to get it replaced.How ever the svc guys told me the tensioner is ok and I got used to the sound.
                  P.S.: I am still running with stock Cam chain and tensioner @ around 40k on odo


                  You could get the tensioner replaced, if the sounds still there get the timing chain inspected.



                  At 4 turns am now getting 23kmpl????? And now bike tops out at 115kmph.
                  And one for strange thing is at standstill my bike goes only upto 9.5k????
                  And found what appears to be something similiar to oil stains near the head and crank case junction. Took bike to svc, they suggested to do the 2nd service abit early and they'll also look into the problems, one of the mechs suggest to check my timing chain, anyways will take the bike in on saturday.
                  9.5k rpm on neutral is normal, do not worry . Why so much issues in a new bike?
                  The reason I noticed the above were cause I'd lost a race to a stranger riding a P150..
                  Insult Man..big insult
                  Keeping the etiquettes apart, in a drag it depends more on the rider and the gear shift rather than the bike.ZMA can easily smoke a P150 but why do you want a proof .Now you have dragged and lost, you will always tend to cross a P150 whenever you find it on road .
                  Do not drag a ZMA man..its simply not meant for that purpose!

                  PSR Sir,Aneesh,Sriram,Max, Everyone!!! Please come to my rescue.
                  Please find my response in blue.
                  Originally posted by psr View Post
                  9.5 K RPM is the Max RPM for ZMA when the cut off kicks in...Why are you doing Street Racing..Don't you know how dangerous it is to you and others on the road ? In future Kindly refrain from it.
                  It is the rider who will make the biggest contribution to the bike's performance.
                  +100
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                  • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                    At 4 turns am now getting 23kmpl?????
                    Strange..I mostly get 30-31km/l in city.

                    And now bike tops out at 115kmph.
                    Hadnt checked that even after the engine overhaul. Speeding is thrill but i feel sad after ripping my bike.


                    Why are you doing Street Racing..Don't you know how dangerous it is to you and others on the road ?
                    Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                    3. Racing :- It's not in my world of riding a bike, would still recommend to allow engine to run in smooth in a constant RPM. If were you, would gradually increase my cruising speed after doing some constant RPM. Not that I have not taken her past 110. It's how you imagine if the engine is strained or not.
                    And one for strange thing is at standstill my bike goes only upto 9.5k????
                    Second time you again misundersting.He had clearly said that in standstill.

                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    9.5 K RPM is the Max RPM for ZMA when the cut off kicks in...
                    Mine goes upto 10k in neutral gear.

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                    • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

                      3. Racing :- It's not in my world of riding a bike, would still recommend to allow engine to run in smooth in a constant RPM. If were you, would gradually increase my cruising speed after doing some constant RPM. Not that I have not taken her past 110. It's how you imagine if the engine is strained or not.
                      Yo go till 110? I thought you bought your bike recently. How much on odo?
                      Adrenaline and petrol can be a lethal combination

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                      • Originally posted by Royzone View Post
                        Yo go till 110? I thought you bought your bike recently. How much on odo?
                        When I did 110, that time my bike completed 2500kms on the odo. And I cruised between 95-110 during my trip to KA (round 1400kms). Once even touched 120 on the speedo, however, it was for a less a minute. Right now it stands at 3200kms on odo approx. My riding style is very low profiled, I usually take it up very gradually and stay at 5-5.5k RPM for sometime before opening the throttle further.
                        RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                        2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                        • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                          Second time you again misundersting.He had clearly said that in standstill.
                          What is the logic behind revving so hard at neutral?

                          Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                          Mine goes upto 10k in neutral gear.
                          So, what have achieved out of it?

                          @ All:- I understand that all would like to share their experience and expect to seek feed back. However, without any logic or the objective nor thinking of the consequences, you are just not doing any good than just stressing the engine too hard.

                          @PSR:- You might differ from my views and opinion posted here and would wholeheartedly take it as feedback. My point is, 'Do not fiddle with the engine, unless you have an issue' is my policy. Experiments shall be carried out in a controlled environment however, clearly understanding the consequences and prepared.
                          RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                          2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                          • Originally posted by psr View Post
                            9.5 K RPM is the Max RPM for ZMA when the cut off kicks in...Why are you doing Street Racing..Don't you know how dangerous it is to you and others on the road ? In future Kindly refrain from it.
                            It is the rider who will make the biggest contribution to the bike's performance.
                            Sorry sir, wasnt street racing at all... Its just that for the past few days I've been getting the feeling that my rides a bit more lazier than usual. And today when the P150/180 idiot challenged me I just kinda lost it... And was still shocked cause my bike just a few weeks before the spill kicked ass of P220.

                            And Sir, I believe theres a correction to be made. I believe most zma's go till 10.5(past the 10.25 mark). A month before I got my zma I rode a friends bike(actally senior) and the bike touched 10.5rpm on gear... And since the fibre had faded abit I thought it to be 11k and it was aneesh who corrected me that zma only has tilll 10k on tacho.

                            Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                            My observation/thoughts:-

                            1. I would think you are too early with your ride expecting whole lot out of the bike.

                            2. You should allow the engine to settle down a bit for at least 5000kms to make any changes to the carb (I mean tuning on AFR). It's ok for sometime if your bike not able to do the desired pick up. However, remember your engine is new and should take it up gradually.

                            3. Racing :- It's not in my world of riding a bike, would still recommend to allow engine to run in smooth in a constant RPM. If were you, would gradually increase my cruising speed after doing some constant RPM. Not that I have not taken her past 110. It's how you imagine if the engine is strained or not.

                            4. I had always kept my hands low on the engine even though there are scope to better the performance. Why? There need some run for the engine to adapt and respond to the tuning.

                            5. Its a boon to have a biker forum with experts here to help how not a bike should be and what is expected. Having a fair idea on the boundaries and limitations ZMA-R, should consciously adhere to it.

                            6. I'm not sure how much your bike done on the odo as of today, still would recommend to go slow on your experiments until you cross 5k on the odo to make changes from stock set up.

                            7. Logically I might be wrong on some of my points here, would always respect the factory recommendations to suit the situation.

                            8. Since the bike is under warranty, if I were you, will not shag my bike to void warranty just because I'm not able to go beyond 9.5k RPM or to seek top speed tests.

                            9. Timing chain expected to lasts atleast 10k minimum. Imagine the abuse if you were to change it even before your second service.

                            10. I understand the adranline rush everytime you ride the bike, you'll need to get sync with the bike and know what it is capable of to give some VFM. If you ever realize this, then there's nothing short of joy ride. This would elevate yourself to a better rider.

                            I know my points are very generic and is not contributing a solution to your issue. May be after servicing, give some thoughts to the above points to avoid seeing youself in such situation in future.

                            These are my personal thoughts.
                            Its not about adrenaline rush bro. I have a brain and I always believe in using it, but the reason I rip my rides is cause, I've heard(not sure if its not a rumour) that if we ride at a constant slow speed the ride gets accustomed ans will never go beyond that speed after a certain period.

                            Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post
                            Please find my response in blue.

                            +100
                            I know bro, it was really embarassing. But the P150 guy rode like crazy, he was riding the bike as if it was a cycle, we just waved past traffic and I was all conservative and all, once again cause I've got a BRAIN!!!

                            Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                            What is the logic behind revving so hard at neutral?



                            So, what have achieved out of it?

                            Come on bro, I believe next you'r going to ask me, why we blow our noses.

                            @ All:- I understand that all would like to share their experience and expect to seek feed back. However, without any logic or the objective nor thinking of the consequences, you are just not doing any good than just stressing the engine too hard.

                            Rip the engine as hard as you want in neutral there's less or no stress at all, cause.... heres a quote from badman's topic.

                            There is no load on the engine, so the rings are just going up and down "along for the ride". Only a small portion of their surface is actually contacting the cylinder wall.
                            @PSR:- You might differ from my views and opinion posted here and would wholeheartedly take it as feedback. My point is, 'Do not fiddle with the engine, unless you have an issue' is my policy. Experiments shall be carried out in a controlled environment however, clearly understanding the consequences and prepared.

                            Lame ,Sorry but couldnt hold myself back
                            Reply in BOLD.
                            Motorcycling Experience:
                            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                            Adios Comrades!
                            A.P. 2018

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                            • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

                              Its not about adrenaline rush bro. I have a brain and I always believe in using it, but the reason I rip my rides is cause, I've heard(not sure if its not a rumour) that if we ride at a constant slow speed the ride gets accustomed ans will never go beyond that speed after a certain period.



                              I know bro, it was really embarassing. But the P150 guy rode like crazy, he was riding the bike as if it was a cycle, we just waved past traffic and I was all conservative and all, once again cause I've got a BRAIN!!!
                              I'm surprised and astound at your response to my post. So much knowledge? Looks like you have all the knowledge when it comes to bike. May be you can share some of the theories.

                              Oh yes, your repeated emphasis on your self confession makes it even more convincing. You are too good..ROFL !!!!

                              All the best.
                              RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                              2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                              • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                                I'm surprised and astound at your response to my post. So much knowledge? Looks like you have all the knowledge when it comes to bike. May be you can share some of the theories.

                                Oh yes, your repeated emphasis on your self confession makes it even more convincing. You are too good..ROFL !!!!

                                All the best.
                                Wasnt refering completely about bikes when I said I had a brain, I was speaking in contrast to people who ride rash(P150 guy), I ride fast and rip bikes, (maybe its cause of my complex, since am obese and all)... But till this day I have'nt done anything stupid, Its like you'r overtaking and say another bus comes from the opp. direction an idiot would continue overtaking cause he trusts on luck alone, but I dont. Thats the difference between being practical and outright dum.....

                                And hell yeah!!! Im good!!!!
                                Motorcycling Experience:
                                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                                Adios Comrades!
                                A.P. 2018

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