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  • HEhe.... If you guys are considering ZMA as a donkey, then I guess its just
    One Hell of A DONKEY
    ..


    One which can even make Lions run for their money.
    Motorcycling Experience:
    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
    Adios Comrades!
    A.P. 2018

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    • Brat bro,
      Today met a friend of mine who's doing his B.Com in the gulf.
      We discussed about bikes and cars, just like all NRI spoiled brats, he was making fun of our rides, life fortuner being pickup, vento being facelifted passat, zma being used as pizaa delivery, unicorn available for 30k inr etc....
      So when I asked about imports he said that bikes were considered something big there and he also narrated a story about his friend getting a KOREAN bike, which was crap and all... Later when we talked, he came to mention the name of the bike.. Surprisingly he said Hyosung, and the funny thing was that he was also refering to a 550~650cc bike, and was also surprised to find that they were also available here for 5.5L, where as when converted to INR it'd cost barely 1L there.


      Moral of the story... One mans bike is another mans crap.

      No offence meant to Hyosung or anyother KOREAN bike makers.
      Motorcycling Experience:
      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
      Adios Comrades!
      A.P. 2018

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      • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
        Ha Ha ha - - no offence taken . I don't have a 'joeled' ZMA R . So I can't talk from experience . But what I've gathered from this forum and others is that the modded version is really something to wonder at . I wonder whether Vineeth aareth could shed some light on this . He's got one . If I were a bit younger I'd have gone for it , I'm sure .
        I was just kidding. obviously, Joel seems to know exactly what he is doing but i am afraid a small portion of his customer's may not. Most are quite sensible, practical and follow everything XBHP promotes, but from what i've read on here, not all. Personal opinion.
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        • Originally posted by prashk View Post
          Please tell us how? Belt/zippers or something else? Wax your bike so that next time, some of the brunt of the impact is taken by the wax coating and not the paint.
          well got scratches while carrying groceries the typical kerala style ie, keeping it on the tank my bad , well actually i was even thinking of repainting the tank for those tiny scratches and my dad went real mad at me for being that crazy his look was like 'are you nuts ?' i love my bike very very much and people around me are still getting used to that

          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
          Lemme know when yor going... I may tag allong...
          i will text you up bro when am going

          Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
          You can Search KRP,eBay etc. Will cost you nearly 900-1000rs for a good quality ones from Progrip.
          i searched ebay prices were not even below 2k money matters
          Cheetahs are faster but the lion is still the KING

          Being In Love with a Girl is like being a superbike fitted with SPEED LIMITER

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          • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
            Brat bro,
            Today met a friend of mine who's doing his B.Com in the gulf.
            We discussed about bikes and cars, just like all NRI spoiled brats, he was making fun of our rides, life fortuner being pickup, vento being facelifted passat, zma being used as pizaa delivery, unicorn available for 30k inr etc....
            So when I asked about imports he said that bikes were considered something big there and he also narrated a story about his friend getting a KOREAN bike, which was crap and all... Later when we talked, he came to mention the name of the bike.. Surprisingly he said Hyosung, and the funny thing was that he was also refering to a 550~650cc bike, and was also surprised to find that they were also available here for 5.5L, where as when converted to INR it'd cost barely 1L there.


            Moral of the story... One mans bike is another mans crap.

            No offence meant to Hyosung or anyother KOREAN bike makers.
            I am not sure why i needed a moral story here but since we are on the subject, your friend is perfectly right in his own mind, i mean think about it, ZMA has about 17 horses so it is used for different purposes in other countries - know that it is a country where women riders use Ninja 250R for learning purposes. In the same frame of mind, GT650R is only a crappy old KOREAN bike maker. Your friend is probably used to Yamaha R6's, ZX-6R's and CBR600RR's when it comes to 600cc and maybe has liter bikes in his garage, these are in NO WAY a match for Hyosung. Take the ZMA to Vietnam or Cambodia, you are an instant superbike rider. In India, it is a Sports/Touring bike, Countries, cultures and respect differs from person to person just like personal opinions do.

            If you had meant no offenses, any specific reasons for you to pick a GT650R in your "Moral story"? Relax... No offense taken and i love a ZMA as much as you do and have one in my stable and nice to see you getting all frowned up and defending ZMA
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            Dream big and Dream hard,
            coz life's all about chasing down ur dreams and living them...

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            • Originally posted by Brat View Post
              I am not sure why i needed a moral story here but since we are on the subject, your friend is perfectly right in his own mind, i mean think about it, ZMA has about 17 horses so it is used for different purposes in other countries - know that it is a country where women riders use Ninja 250R for learning purposes. In the same frame of mind, GT650R is only a crappy old KOREAN bike maker. Your friend is probably used to Yamaha R6's, ZX-6R's and CBR600RR's when it comes to 600cc and maybe has liter bikes in his garage, these are in NO WAY a match for Hyosung. Take the ZMA to Vietnam or Cambodia, you are an instant superbike rider. In India, it is a Sports/Touring bike, Countries, cultures and respect differs from person to person just like personal opinions do.

              If you had meant no offenses, any specific reasons for you to pick a GT650R in your "Moral story"? Relax... No offense taken and i love a ZMA as much as you do and have one in my stable and nice to see you getting all frowned up and defending ZMA

              Hehe.... Was just messing around bro, after all bikes are bikes whether 17bhp or 170bhp....

              But to be frank I didnt make up the moral, he actually was refering to the Hyousung.

              But dont worry, I have a special liking for Hyousung, comming to think of it, I've also got a Hyousung in my stable.
              Motorcycling Experience:
              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
              Adios Comrades!
              A.P. 2018

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              • Originally posted by Brat View Post
                No offense to the modders or to the ZMA, a friend's recent saying comes to mind...
                "Never make a donkey run like a horse".
                Lets not forget that its this so called donkey who kick started affordable performance biking segment in India. Agar ZMA naa hota toh aaj P220, R15 & RTR 180 bhi nai hote
                2005 HH Karizma [SOLD]
                2008 Yamaha R15 V1.0 [SOLD]
                2018 Bajaj Dominar 400 ABS Matte Black [Current]

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                • Ok, we all need to go back and read my original post and stop calling the ZMA a donkey
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                  • Originally posted by prashk View Post
                    I'm still not sure if you're referring to Sirac or Sirac street here, when you say they offer good grip. I guess you meant Sirac street itself, as Sirac wouldn't be good on tar.
                    I am talking about Sirac Street 100/90-18,Sirac is only available in 120/90-18.

                    Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                    Hi all
                    Most or at least some of us may have experienced the trip meter/time resetting by itself when we have to press the starter switch for a bit longer .
                    According to my knowledge its because of low battery charge,I had the same problem before changing battery,after battery replacement,never occurred again!

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                    • Originally posted by acs1207 View Post
                      Hi all
                      Most or at least some of us may have experienced the trip meter/time resetting by itself when we have to press the starter switch for a bit longer . Though it doesn't happens to me much now a days , it's been bugging my mind . If we can get a small rechargeable 12V battery I think we can eliminate the problem entirely by connecting it to the wiring through a diode .
                      What I want to know is whether a capacitor could supply the juice instead ( connected in series ? )- of course with the diode in tow . Does the capacitor work that way ?
                      Techies please enlighten !!
                      Honestly, you'd need PSR to give you the gist on whether botching up a capacitor towed with diode would cut it but in the long run, you will also have to consider leaks, cable resistance and many other factors for such a setup.

                      The display resetting the trip meter when you crank the engine with self starter is a commonly noticed when your battery's resting charge reads exactly 12 volts. A typical 12-volt battery is not exactly 12-volts, we call it that way be means of its relative charge so as to distinguish it from other battery types. Karizma's (Factory unit) has an Amco-Yuasa AB7B-B which has a resting charge of anywhere between 12.6 - 12.75 volts. This is when the battery is not discharging.



                      A typical fully charged 12-volt battery allowed to rest for a few hours and measured with a calibrated voltmeter, would read as 12.6 volts denoting 100% charge capacity. While discharging, the charge could drop as low as 10.5 - 11-volts which is when you start noticing weird things like trip meter resetting, starter motor making weird noises like it is slowing down the cranking process, lights going crazy, etc.

                      Take ur battery to your dealer/HH authorised service center and have him measure the charge, if the problem does not go away even after re-charging the battery, it may be also due to any electrical leaks in ur ZMA (Mostly due to electrical Mods - commonly, high intensity lights and horns). Be sure to have your electrical circuits checked thoroughly.

                      Cheers!
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                      Dream big and Dream hard,
                      coz life's all about chasing down ur dreams and living them...

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                      • Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                        Hehe.... Was just messing around bro, after all bikes are bikes whether 17bhp or 170bhp....

                        But to be frank I didnt make up the moral, he actually was refering to the Hyousung.

                        But dont worry, I have a special liking for Hyousung, comming to think of it, I've also got a Hyousung in my stable.
                        If your friend chooses to call the ZMA crap and powerless it is his choice,
                        he probably has no respect for other people's beloved machines. Let him do so if he chooses to, being an XBHP'ian - we shouldn't return him the favor.

                        In my thoughts, It is as simple as allowing a SPEEDING biker, in a P150 to overtake you. You know you can beat his bike in a drag race but having the respect to let him enjoy his biking experience is what the mutual respect is all about being amongst the best in this forum.

                        Engine capacity, brand wars aside, you should educate your friend to see your point of view.

                        Happy Biking!
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                        Dream big and Dream hard,
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                        • Michelin'd my rear wheel with M45 4.00 x18. Now it looks taller and have not noticed anything short yet. Did 60 kms today and it was absolutely fine. Thanks to Brat and PSR.
                          RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

                          2012 - Meghamalai | Kuttralam | 2011 Ooty | Munnar | 2010 Point Calimere | Horsley Hills | Yercaud

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                          • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                            Michelin'd my rear wheel with M45 4.00 x18. Now it looks taller and have not noticed anything short yet. Did 60 kms today and it was absolutely fine. Thanks to Brat and PSR.
                            How is it bro? You didnt find any difference?

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                            • Originally posted by Brat View Post
                              Honestly, you'd need PSR to give you the gist on whether botching up a capacitor towed with diode would cut it but in the long run, you will also have to consider leaks, cable resistance and many other factors for such a setup.

                              The display resetting the trip meter when you crank the engine with self starter is a commonly noticed when your battery's resting charge reads exactly 12 volts. A typical 12-volt battery is not exactly 12-volts, we call it that way be means of its relative charge so as to distinguish it from other battery types. Karizma's (Factory unit) has an Amco-Yuasa AB7B-B which has a resting charge of anywhere between 12.6 - 12.75 volts. This is when the battery is not discharging.



                              A typical fully charged 12-volt battery allowed to rest for a few hours and measured with a calibrated voltmeter, would read as 12.6 volts denoting 100% charge capacity. While discharging, the charge could drop as low as 10.5 - 11-volts which is when you start noticing weird things like trip meter resetting, starter motor making weird noises like it is slowing down the cranking process, lights going crazy, etc.

                              Take ur battery to your dealer/HH authorised service center and have him measure the charge, if the problem does not go away even after re-charging the battery, it may be also due to any electrical leaks in ur ZMA (Mostly due to electrical Mods - commonly, high intensity lights and horns). Be sure to have your electrical circuits checked thoroughly.

                              Cheers!
                              Hi Brat
                              I always had problems putting my mind on paper . I should have said " especially when electricals are upgraded like higher wattage headlights etc " . ( I happen to have a 55/60 headlight bulb on stock wiring as well as an aftermarket horn which is louder , tail lights @ 10/5w) .
                              It also happens when the battery is not in prime health due to leakage of current or nearing pension age !
                              Well , the memory of the display cant be using much current . ( Even my mobile's time/settings don't change when I swap the memory card if I do it fast enough . ) That's the thought behind my idea .
                              Today morning I had to crank for may be 4 seconds and it reset itself in that time . If we can adapt a capacitor to supply the required current for a maximum of 5 seconds , then I think 90% of the ones affected by resetting will be covered .
                              It's not a nuclear technology I'm talking about here ( no offense meant either to the nuclear industry or to anyone else ) . There should be 3 wires going into the memory - a positive for the display, a negative and another positive which supplies current to the memory even when the bike is switched off . A diode is a must so that the voltage in the slave battery/capacitor does not fall when the voltage in the master battery falls below a point . The current which comes to the display unit can't be high . So a battery which is of the same voltage (I'm assuming it'll be 12 V) connected through a diode should be enough to retain the memory of the display .
                              Have to inquire about the smallest 12V rechargeable battery available . Will revert back to the subject if and when I get anything positive on it !
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                              • Originally posted by Brat View Post
                                Ok, we all need to go back and read my original post and stop calling the ZMA a donkey
                                OK , point noted . Even if someone did , ZMAs do have snob value and we can just say grapes are sour ...!
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