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  • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
    Good to be back on the thread.
    Yes it is good to have the thread starter (inder cool) and one of the significant contributor to the thread back ..Ravi I thought you had sold your ZMA and so left the thread...Of course sharing your experience and knowledge is eagerly awaited .
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    • Originally posted by psr View Post
      Yes it is good to have the thread starter (inder cool) and one of the significant contributor to the thread back ..Ravi I thought you had sold your ZMA and so left the thread...Of course sharing your experience and knowledge is eagerly awaited .
      Though I was not posting much, I have been observing the thread now and then. You have great knowledge and thread is in safe hands, so, never bothered to post and keep watch on this thread.

      You are right that I sold my ZMA. Now, I got it back for a week and trying to correct some things. It needed some serious attention. Leaking front fork, leaking head, chain noise, rattling panels, wornout clutch and accelerator cables, broken center stand, wornout tyres, etc. Corrected most of them yesterday. Tyres replacement yet to be done. Have to decide whether to replace the front fendor (broken at joints), need to source left rear blinker, which is not available. Air filter and spark plug replaced.

      Seems the tensioner is gone. When I start the engine in the morning, there is a significant tak tak noise from the engine which goes away when engine gets hot. I don't want to change the tensioner and timing chain right now. Will it cause any problem if I don't change these? Your advice needed.
      HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
      Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

      Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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      • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        Are you sure its just 1.5 liters? I guess it is supposed to be more than 2 liters. Correct me if I am wrong.

        Edit: Checked on the Website. Its 2 liters.
        My bike used to go about 50kms after hitting reserve and I used to get a constant of 37-40 kmpl...so always thought it to be max 1.5L in the reserve

        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        I would like to know if any of the members using Sirac Street 100/90 as TUBELESS fitting on their bike; just need some feedback on this.
        I had the Michelin and the Duro fitted on the bike both wre TL.

        Originally posted by sunny_ View Post
        @ravi.17bhp and inder.cool, I used to read the posts by you guys when I had no bike, and I was not even a member at that time; and before I bought it in November 2010, I had read almost all the posts till date. I'm glad to see you again here.
        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        Good to be back on the thread.
        Originally posted by psr View Post
        Yes it is good to have the thread starter (inder cool) and one of the significant contributor to the thread back ..Ravi I thought you had sold your ZMA and so left the thread...Of course sharing your experience and knowledge is eagerly awaited .
        Ya, its good to be back to the thread

        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
        Though I was not posting much, I have been observing the thread now and then. You have great knowledge and thread is in safe hands, so, never bothered to post and keep watch on this thread.
        Same here, I also felt that PSR does a good job in explaning things in detail to the people here

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        • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
          My bike used to go about 50kms after hitting reserve and I used to get a constant of 37-40 kmpl...so always thought it to be max 1.5L in the reserve
          I guess, then the usable reserve 1.5L, though 2L is the total reserve.


          Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
          I had the Michelin and the Duro fitted on the bike both wre TL.
          Thank you. Right now the ZMA is with 120 Sirac as TT.


          Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
          Same here, I also felt that PSR does a good job in explaning things in detail to the people here
          Completely agree with you. A big applause to PSR from all the ZMA owners here. You are doing a great job sir. Thanks from all.
          HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
          Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

          Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
            Thank you. Right now the ZMA is with 120 Sirac as TT.
            Probably the best one for the ZMA

            Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
            Completely agree with you. A big applause to PSR from all the ZMA owners here. You are doing a great job sir. Thanks from all.

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            • Originally posted by psr View Post

              thanks sir u effort to this thread had been really mind boggling .thanks really for pointing out I was really hoping to get a reply from you and it just came in at the right time.

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              • Review/Update on Engine Oil
                Make - Shell SS AX7 10w40
                Distance covered - 1776kms
                Terrain - you name it.

                1. No cold start issues. Touch of a button brings engine to life.
                2. Idles at 1.1-1.2k even after a long run
                3. Revvs good beyond 6k
                4. Less vibrations
                5. Smoothness improved.
                6. Maintains engine heat.

                After the trip the oil is still good, might carry for another 1000kms in city conditions.

                Review on Ninja250R brake pads on ZMA
                These are my experience after doing long trip recently with the Ninja pads.

                1. Nice response and quickly cuts down the speed.
                2. Can operate with my ring finger to bring bike to halt.
                3. Should say overall I'm satisfied.
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                • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                  Seems the tensioner is gone. When I start the engine in the morning, there is a significant tak tak noise from the engine which goes away when engine gets hot. I don't want to change the tensioner and timing chain right now. Will it cause any problem if I don't change these? Your advice needed.
                  Bad tensioner will make the Timing chain loose, leading to timing chain slapping around...this will surely kill the inside chain guides and the chain may in worst case scenario ,jump CAM sprocket teeth....better to change before the Valves go in to the piston.
                  Originally posted by inder.cool
                  Same here, I also felt that PSR does a good job in explaning things in detail to the people here
                  Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                  Completely agree with you. A big applause to PSR from all the ZMA owners here. You are doing a great job sir. Thanks from all.
                  Thanks for the kind words of appreciation....Hope I become deserving of your compliments some day...your posts show your generous heart and encouraging attitude....

                  Originally posted by shhbz View Post
                  thanks sir u effort to this thread had been really mind boggling .thanks really for pointing out I was really hoping to get a reply from you and it just came in at the right time.
                  Glad to be of help.
                  Last edited by psr; 03-20-2012, 02:50 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                    Review/Update on Engine Oil
                    Make - Shell SS AX7 10w40
                    Distance covered - 1776kms
                    Terrain - you name it.

                    1. No cold start issues. Touch of a button brings engine to life.
                    2. Idles at 1.1-1.2k even after a long run
                    3. Revvs good beyond 6k
                    4. Less vibrations
                    5. Smoothness improved.
                    6. Maintains engine heat.

                    After the trip the oil is still good, might carry for another 1000kms in city conditions.

                    Review on Ninja250R brake pads on ZMA
                    These are my experience after doing long trip recently with the Ninja pads.

                    1. Nice response and quickly cuts down the speed.
                    2. Can operate with my ring finger to bring bike to halt.
                    3. Should say overall I'm satisfied.
                    Thanks to your report, we now have information of better alternates in oil and brake pads with assured performance on long rides..
                    Last edited by psr; 03-20-2012, 02:53 PM.
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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      It will reduce...marginally..Go for the NGK G power plug and it will compensate for the drop..In fact in my ZMA Keihin carb I had blocked some of the Emulsion tube holes and made the AFR rich..but now i am getting almost the same FE...in fact it had gone up from about 40 to 41 Km per liter..I had also chnged my engine oil to Valvoline 20w40, which could also be the reason since I find the bike to have better acceleration...
                      As per your recommendation & our discussions off the forum, I installed the G power plug this sunday, but still running on 3.25 turns of AFR. Couple of things I noticed:
                      1) Cold start issue gone - Bike now starts without choke.
                      2) Engine feels much relaxed & throttle response is good
                      3) No hiccups in the engine running.

                      Not yet calculated the FE so cant comment on that part, as I still got the complete tank to finish & I calculate FE by full tank method.

                      Thanks for all the help!!

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                      • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                        Same here, I also felt that PSR does a good job in explaning things in detail to the people here
                        Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                        Completely agree with you. A big applause to PSR from all the ZMA owners here. You are doing a great job sir. Thanks from all.
                        +1 guys. PSR Sir, Thank you for all the knowledge you have imparted to others here. Have to mention this, your patience in explaining things is beyond limits.

                        Query :
                        1.Anybody who can source an M45 for the ZMA in bangalore ????? Even if its Chennai/Coimbatore/Hyderabad , i don't mind.

                        2.Any place where Valvoline FS oil is available. This used to be one of the best oils I had used on a ZMA. And Suddenly even this has become extinct from Bangalore.
                        Stories of the open road...........

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                        • Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                          Review/Update on Engine Oil
                          Make - Shell SS AX7 10w40
                          Distance covered - 1776kms
                          Terrain - you name it.
                          Originally posted by psr View Post
                          Thanks to your report, we now have information of better alternates in oil and brake pads with assured performance on long rides..
                          Along with this ... One more good oil is Petronas 4T 5000 Fully Synthetic, I had been using this since a long time and was pretty much satisfied with its performance. Good for long tours, lasts long, smooth gear shifting, etc.

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                          • Originally posted by inder.cool View Post
                            Along with this ... One more good oil is Petronas 4T 5000 Fully Synthetic, I had been using this since a long time and was pretty much satisfied with its performance. Good for long tours, lasts long, smooth gear shifting, etc.
                            +1. I still have three cans left with me. We used it extensively in Yamaha R-15 and Karizma. Its fully synthetic and comes at less price than regular fully synthetics.

                            Just using regular Honda oil (made by Idemitsu) in my Dazzler for warranty reasons.

                            Regarding the disc pads, are the pads of Ninja250R same design of Karizma? Whats the difference between these two, including pricing?
                            HH Karizma (Current) || CBF Stunner PGM-FI || Honda CB Unicorn Dazzler
                            Honda Aviator || Kinetic Flyte || Kinetic Blaze || HH Splendor

                            Two ZMAs, 9 Days in Western Ghats

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                            • Originally posted by phanikar View Post
                              +1 guys. PSR Sir, Thank you for all the knowledge you have imparted to others here. Have to mention this, your patience in explaining things is beyond limits.

                              Query :
                              1.Anybody who can source an M45 for the ZMA in bangalore ????? Even if its Chennai/Coimbatore/Hyderabad , i don't mind.

                              2.Any place where Valvoline FS oil is available. This used to be one of the best oils I had used on a ZMA. And Suddenly even this has become extinct from Bangalore.
                              Thanks once again for the appreciation.....
                              Valvoline FS 10w30 is available in Chennai....
                              Regarding M45 /18 I think Mr.Sriram may be able to help you.

                              Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                              Regarding the disc pads, are the pads of Ninja250R same design of Karizma? Whats the difference between these two, including pricing?
                              The Ninja pads are straight fit on the ZMA. They are made of Sintered metal and has really good grab power...There will be a hissing sound whenever you brake along with small clicking sound in tune with speed as the holes in Disc cross the pad in rotation.
                              Costs about 1,350/-.. worth every penny of it.
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                              • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                                Regarding the disc pads, are the pads of Ninja250R same design of Karizma? Whats the difference between these two, including pricing?
                                RTR disc pads are a direct fit on the karizma and they offer good grip too.

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