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**psr** · 07-12-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

And you wont believe what SVC said, its normal and warranty cant be claimed. Only if the tanks full and noise comes it can be considered as a manufacturing defect, so am patiently waiting for someone to explain to me, HOW THE HELL WILL IT MAKE NOISE WHEN THE TANKS FULL!!!

The SVC people are getting stuppider by the minute.

What will be the float's relative position,esp.,when the tank is full with petrol ,.... after it had been bent backwards due to hitting a pot hole at high speed?

May be I have to learn some more before posting or i will be called names too...

**ashwinprakas** · 07-12-2012, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by shirish View Post

Reminds me of an old hindi song: 'dekh tere sansar ki haalat kya hogayi bhagwas...kitna badal gaya insan'

English please. Am from south.

Originally posted by psr View Post

What will be the float's relative position,esp.,when the tank is full with petrol ,.... after it had been bent backwards due to hitting a pot hole at high speed?

May be I have to learn some more before posting or i will be called names too...

Sir, I know what you're getting at, to verify the SVC's statement I had filled half a tank(Which can clearly be seen in the video.) and now the sound only comes when shaking the bike to and fro, and is considerably less audible, before it was more audible and could be heard when the bike was shook sideways as well. So in short when half filled if the effect is muffled to almost half then I assume when full tank it'd be completely covered up. And also do note that the issue surfaced when my fuel level was low, when I was running full tank nothing of this sort popped up.

**psr** · 07-12-2012, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Sir, I know what you're getting at, to verify the SVC's statement I had filled half a tank(Which can clearly be seen in the video.) and now the sound only comes when shaking the bike to and fro, and is considerably less audible, before it was more audible and could be heard when the bike was shook sideways as well. So in short when half filled if the effect is muffled to almost half then I assume when full tank it'd be completely covered up. And also do note that the issue surfaced when my fuel level was low, when I was running full tank nothing of this sort popped up.

The answer to your problem ..
The float is ALWAYS set parallel to the bottom of the tank and with 500 ml or less ,will be held up ,without touching the bottom.. This is achieved by a small projection in the float assembly base..similarly when the tank is being filled to full, the float will be restrained from hitting the tank..If by chance the float assembly is subjected to severe mechanical shock the float arm might bend and the whole calibration as well as it's proper mounting may go out of alignment.

...here is a link to some images....

petrol tank float assembly image - Google Search

**ashwinprakas** · 07-12-2012, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

The answer to your problem ..
The float is ALWAYS set parallel to the bottom of the tank and with 500 ml or less ,will be held up ,without touching the bottom.. This is achieved by a small projection in the float assembly base..similarly when the tank is being filled to full, the float will be restrained from hitting the tank..If by chance the float assembly is subjected to severe mechanical shock the float arm might bend and the whole calibration as well as it's proper mounting may go out of alignment.

...here is a link to some images....

petrol tank float assembly image - Google Search

So in my case, I suspect the arm to be bent downwards, resulting in knocking when low on gas. And the issue disappearing when gas is filled. Am I right?

Edit.
Oops I forgot to mention, dont know if my readings wrong or anything, but today when filled 400rs petrol the guage is showing half tank, and the bike had run abit in reserve as well. Before even when there was 2 bars the bike could take in 1k rs petrol. So am also assuming that my readings have become abit optimistic.

**ravi@17bhp** · 07-12-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

So in my case, I suspect the arm to be bent downwards, resulting in knocking when low on gas. And the issue disappearing when gas is filled. Am I right?

Check if there are any stone/stones in the tank.

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**ashwinprakas** · 07-12-2012, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

Check if there are any stone/stones in the tank. :-P

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Would you believe me if I told I already did that, by inserting my granny's phone into the tank after setting the timer. My effort was in vain though, cause the tank is kinda twisted or something, no matter how deep you push in the camera, it'll only shoot pics of the tank wall.

Anyways, did you take a look at the comparison video that i'd posted earlier.?

**psr** · 07-12-2012, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

So in my case, I suspect the arm to be bent downwards, resulting in knocking when low on gas. And the issue disappearing when gas is filled. Am I right?

Edit.
Oops I forgot to mention, dont know if my readings wrong or anything, but today when filled 400rs petrol the guage is showing half tank, and the bike had run abit in reserve as well. Before even when there was 2 bars the bike could take in 1k rs petrol. So am also assuming that my readings have become abit optimistic.

Erroneous reading compared to before confirms that the float arm is bent,or loose contact in the float resistor...

**ashwinprakas** · 07-13-2012, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Erroneous reading compared to before confirms that the float arm is bent,or loose contact in the float resistor...

Case closed then, and the sad part is that I cant claim warranty on it, but on the good side its ok, cause on my friends Fazer no matter how much we fill the guage shows empty.

**Anzac** · 07-13-2012, 02:32 AM

Thanks Sriram, Vishakh and Ashwin for the replies. I will try what you suggested.

**sunny_** · 07-13-2012, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

My ZMA 12-07-2012 - YouTube
1. Comparison between the Zen's Roots Windtone and ZMA's Tractor horn.(I told ya, the Tractor Horns are loud yet decent.)

2. Sound of my Cosworth.

3. The weird noise my tank makes, pay special attention.

4. Sound of my neighbor's dog.

btw your ZMA sounds better now with that filter.

**ashwinprakas** · 07-13-2012, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

4. Sound of my neighbor's dog.

The dog's technically mine. I dont like having it around, so I keep it next door.

btw your ZMA sounds better now with that filter.

Sound is'nt the Cosworth's speciality. In the video the bike's parked in a corner and hence the sound resonates more than needed. In reality while riding the bike sounds just like stock, except for the mild thump between 4~6k.

**sunny_** · 07-13-2012, 02:53 PM

Front fork

In this pic, can you see a dark elliptical spot on the rod just above the oil seal?
I'm stupid enough not to change the fork oil even a single time in the last 30.5k kms, and the mechanic said thats the reason it has got this mark and when I asked him to change the fork oil now he said that if the oil seal and oil are changed now then the oil seal will be damaged in 2-3 days and I must change the rod before I plan to change the oil.
Although regarding depth of this mark, it is not deep and it is just a smooth mark I can touch..but I trust that mechanic as well, he was surely speaking from his experience.

Seniors, can you please guide me on this matter? To go for the seal and oil change or to the rod change first?

**ashwinprakas** · 07-13-2012, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

In this pic, can you see a dark elliptical spot on the rod just above the oil seal?
I'm stupid enough not to change the fork oil even a single time in the last 30.5k kms, and the mechanic said thats the reason it has got this mark and when I asked him to change the fork oil now he said that if the oil seal and oil are changed now then the oil seal will be damaged in 2-3 days and I must change the rod before I plan to change the oil.
Although regarding depth of this mark, it is not deep and it is just a smooth mark I can touch..but I trust that mechanic as well, he was surely speaking from his experience.

Seniors, can you please guide me on this matter? To go for the seal and oil change or to the rod change first?

Practically speaking theres no need to change the rod, cause I've seen old bikes with rusted forks working well without a leak. Though technically the patch poses as a threat, cause theres a risk of the seal wearing prematurely.

**ravi@17bhp** · 07-13-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Would you believe me if I told I already did that, by inserting my granny's phone into the tank after setting the timer. My effort was in vain though, cause the tank is kinda twisted or something, no matter how deep you push in the camera, it'll only shoot pics of the tank wall.

Anyways, did you take a look at the comparison video that i'd posted earlier.?

You made your granny's phone to do a MI act in a petrol tank?? :O

I did check the video today. I couldn't check yesterday as I was on mobile internet. The tone appears good. Lets decide.

Originally posted by sunny_ View Post

In this pic, can you see a dark elliptical spot on the rod just above the oil seal?
I'm stupid enough not to change the fork oil even a single time in the last 30.5k kms, and the mechanic said thats the reason it has got this mark and when I asked him to change the fork oil now he said that if the oil seal and oil are changed now then the oil seal will be damaged in 2-3 days and I must change the rod before I plan to change the oil.
Although regarding depth of this mark, it is not deep and it is just a smooth mark I can touch..but I trust that mechanic as well, he was surely speaking from his experience.

Seniors, can you please guide me on this matter? To go for the seal and oil change or to the rod change first?

I guess the mechanic talked rubbish regarding the patch forming because of not changing fork oil. Never saw on any new bike like that. If fork oil is the culprit, why only a patch formed? I guess its a defective tube, or due to some other reason.

**ashwinprakas** · 07-13-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post

You made your granny's phone to do a MI act in a petrol tank?? :O

Yeah

Am not crazy enough to use mine.

I did check the video today. I couldn't check yesterday as I was on mobile internet. The tone appears good. Lets decide.

If it helps, the Bosh normal horns are available as single for 250/- per piece, the high tones are kinda loud and decent, though not a VFM at 250/-.

I guess its a defective tube, or due to some other reason.

Sir, I believe its not defective, and happens with time and wear, cause in my Kiney's cage the chrome used to peel off when the pillions carelessly use it to climb on to the seat.

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