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  • Originally posted by nikhpaul View Post
    I suggest u buy the TVS chain lube... costs around 185/-

    I clean my chain once i feel its getting sluggish... what i do is, Put the bike on the main stand, let the wheel rotate in second gear. I have filled some kerosene in a colin spray bottle, spray in on the chain and then clean it off with an old tooth brush... then spray the lube.
    Very good DIY nik....

    Originally posted by somyeah View Post
    My bike too has got a scratch mark across the tank. Do the service center guys have touch up paint? Do I need to buy it? What is the cost and how to use?
    they have the Touch up paint in the workshop do ask them to put that in the place's you want... if it a small scratch then they will do it for free else they will charge you for a nominal amount for that you need to ask the service manager at the service center...
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    • Originally posted by Pyrotechnics View Post
      F.E of Dazzler = 55+
      Maintenance of Dazzler = Similar to the maintenance required by a Hero Honda Splendour or Honda Unicorn, so not much.

      I think the real difference you will find between the Dazzler and the GS150R (or a Honda Unicorn) in terms of maintenance is that you will need to clean the Dazzler's chain every 500kms. The GS150R, I believe, has a covered chain.

      On the other hand, the GS150R has rear drum brakes, this usually means they will tend to heat up a bit more and will require adjustment at every service. The Dazzler has rear discs, which are grippier, more resoponsive and require less maintenance.

      The GS150R also has gas charged shocks will require some attention every once and then. The Dazzler has mono-shock suspension which seldom requires maintenance.

      Looking at those points, the Dazzler scores 2 points over the GS's 1. I would say the Dazzler is better in terms of maintenance. Honda also has more service centres than Suzuki.

      So basically, if you want a rock-solid bike which you will be using to travel inter-city more often, then go for the GS150R. The GS150R has slow initial pickup, so it won't thrill you in the city as much.

      If you want a hybrid bike that is sprints forward for you when you turn the throttle, yet is fuel efficient, reliable and will be used in the city more often than the highways, then go for the Dazzler.
      Rear disk brake in dazzler is soft just like drum brake. Because rear disk brake without ABS could be risky, so honda intentionally gave soft rear disk brake for dazzler. So, rear disk brake in 150cc is really not necessary; it is just for sales purpose. Even karizmaR and bullet have rear drum brake.

      Rear drum brake is adjusted properly do not heat up. Servicing a rear drum brake is much more easy and cheaper to maintain than disk brake. Because disk brake requires brake fluid, so changing it cannot be done by us and disk brake service is costlier but less frequent.

      Monoshock improves handling of the bike, meaning bike can turn easily and bend like in race track, but pillion comfort is questionable. Twin gas-charged rear shock absorbers give better comfort on bad roads. That is why long-distance bikes like Harleys and even Bullet come with twin rear shocks. Build wise, gs150r is more solidly built than dazzler. Compare front suspension thickness and see for yourself. Also, one point of importance is gs150r has additional kickstart.

      Personally, i think gs150r is much more stress-free at high speeds due to sixth gear. With easy turning, dazzler has the advantage in city riding, but Gs150r is heavier like unicorn/Cbzx, but is better and feels solid on highways and long ring roads. Also, consider your height and weight, the roads/traffic density you ride in, and your city/highway usage before you decide. Both bikes are good.

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      • top speed

        Just checked my dazzler's maximum possible speed in each gear -
        2nd cog - 70 km/h @ 9800rpm
        3rd cog - 94 km/h @ 9800rpm
        4th cog - 114 km/h@ 9800rpm
        5th cog - 134km/h @ 9800rpm
        All speeds are speedo indicated. Also, rev limiter cuts in after 9800rpm, so there is no way one can go past it as needle just keeps bouncing off the rev limiter! So, i guess 134km/h(speedo indicated) is the max speed dazzler can reach in stock condition.

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        • Originally posted by amitmalve View Post
          Just checked my dazzler's maximum possible speed in each gear -
          2nd cog - 70 km/h @ 9800rpm
          3rd cog - 94 km/h @ 9800rpm
          4th cog - 114 km/h@ 9800rpm
          5th cog - 134km/h @ 9800rpm
          All speeds are speedo indicated. Also, rev limiter cuts in after 9800rpm, so there is no way one can go past it as needle just keeps bouncing off the rev limiter! So, i guess 134km/h(speedo indicated) is the max speed dazzler can reach in stock condition.
          very soon u will be in need of a new engine if u keep on taking your rpm will @9800 wow good one.
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          • Originally posted by amitmalve View Post
            Just checked my dazzler's maximum possible speed in each gear -
            2nd cog - 70 km/h @ 9800rpm
            3rd cog - 94 km/h @ 9800rpm
            4th cog - 114 km/h@ 9800rpm
            5th cog - 134km/h @ 9800rpm
            All speeds are speedo indicated. Also, rev limiter cuts in after 9800rpm, so there is no way one can go past it as needle just keeps bouncing off the rev limiter! So, i guess 134km/h(speedo indicated) is the max speed dazzler can reach in stock condition.
            How much on odo?

            Originally posted by arjunb25 View Post
            very soon u will be in need of a new engine if u keep on taking your rpm will @9800 wow good one.
            +1^^^

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            • Originally posted by arjunb25 View Post
              very soon u will be in need of a new engine if u keep on taking your rpm will @9800 wow good one.
              Hey,

              We are not supposed to exceed 8.5 rpm if we want out engine to be in good condition right ??

              I've done,

              First 600 km :- Kept it under 50kmph and 4 rpm, avg speed was 45kmph
              600-850km :- keeping it under 65kmph and 5 rpm, Avg speed is 55 kmph
              How long do i need to maintain this ? Upto 1000km or 3000km ?

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              • [QUOTE=Aneesh@4GHz;680904]How much on odo?


                Originally posted by arjunb25 View Post
                very soon u will be in need of a new engine if u keep on taking your rpm will @9800 wow good one.
                [QUOTE=sunil r;680907]
                We are not supposed to exceed 8.5 rpm if we want out engine to be in good condition right ??


                Hey all, Relax & thanks for the concern.Its not that every now & then I keep taking my bike's rpm up to the red line. It was just once that I had to check max speed in each gear, so I did it. Also I have done 16K on odo & just got my bike serviced with a fully synthetic oil (shell advance ultra) before attempting this feat.

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                • [QUOTE=amitmalve;681026][QUOTE=Aneesh@4GHz;680904]How much on odo?




                  Originally posted by sunil r View Post
                  We are not supposed to exceed 8.5 rpm if we want out engine to be in good condition right ??


                  Hey all, Relax & thanks for the concern.Its not that every now & then I keep taking my bike's rpm up to the red line. It was just once that I had to check max speed in each gear, so I did it. Also I have done 16K on odo & just got my bike serviced with a fully synthetic oil (shell advance ultra) before attempting this feat.
                  +1 dude...... i too have tried this but got 120 as top Speed although gear shfit was at 8 to 8.5 K Rpm..... i still use shell AX7..... go's well with the dazzler... done 17K on odo...
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                  • +1 dude...... i too have tried this but got 120 as top Speed although gear shfit was at 8 to 8.5 K Rpm..... i still use shell AX7..... go's well with the dazzler... done 17K on odo...[/QUOTE]

                    Ya,actually I used a road which was slightly inclined in my favor & also i was lucky to have some tail wind which helped me reach 134 on speedo

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                      • Originally posted by amitmalve View Post
                        +1 dude...... i too have tried this but got 120 as top Speed although gear shfit was at 8 to 8.5 K Rpm..... i still use shell AX7..... go's well with the dazzler... done 17K on odo...
                        Ya,actually I used a road which was slightly inclined in my favor & also i was lucky to have some tail wind which helped me reach 134 on speedo[/QUOTE]

                        Wow thats gr8 i still havent tried top speed as my dazzy is still 1850kms old.
                        Should i try the top speed now or wait till 3000kms on odo??? Please Advise

                        Also gave my dazzy for 3rd service today asked the svc guy does it have a oil filter he said no is that true?

                        Should i go ahead and change the oil to Shell Ax7 or use honda oil untill free service is over please suggest.

                        This is my first bike so dont mind on my questions..

                        Thanks

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                        • Originally posted by antonysg View Post
                          Rear disk brake in dazzler is soft just like drum brake. Because rear disk brake without ABS could be risky, so honda intentionally gave soft rear disk brake for dazzler. So, rear disk brake in 150cc is really not necessary; it is just for sales purpose. Even karizmaR and bullet have rear drum brake.

                          Rear drum brake is adjusted properly do not heat up. Servicing a rear drum brake is much more easy and cheaper to maintain than disk brake. Because disk brake requires brake fluid, so changing it cannot be done by us and disk brake service is costlier but less frequent.

                          Monoshock improves handling of the bike, meaning bike can turn easily and bend like in race track, but pillion comfort is questionable. Twin gas-charged rear shock absorbers give better comfort on bad roads. That is why long-distance bikes like Harleys and even Bullet come with twin rear shocks. Build wise, gs150r is more solidly built than dazzler. Compare front suspension thickness and see for yourself. Also, one point of importance is gs150r has additional kickstart.

                          Personally, i think gs150r is much more stress-free at high speeds due to sixth gear. With easy turning, dazzler has the advantage in city riding, but Gs150r is heavier like unicorn/Cbzx, but is better and feels solid on highways and long ring roads. Also, consider your height and weight, the roads/traffic density you ride in, and your city/highway usage before you decide. Both bikes are good.
                          Dazzler needs a Rear disc because the bike is kinda hard to stop, moves with a lot of Kinetic Force. It takes some pretty long strips for me to have my bike stopped (i apply slowly and alternatively so that they don't get worn out).

                          The discs on Dazzler (well atleast on my pathfinder) aren't as hard and jerky/wild as those on Xtreme/Pulsar. They're adjusted perfectly to give you the perfect control, grip. They're neither sluggish as drums nor wild as Discs on other bikes. They can be anything you want as per your situational requirements and you can stop right where you want with precision.

                          And there's no comparison between Dazzler and GS150R, the latter is meant for uncles while the former is perfectly balanced for youngsters. They're not even of the same class. And whoever thinks Dazzler is a small bike is wrong. They should ride one and experience it themselves, how tall and wide that bike actually is, I'm 5' 7" and growing but it takes me some real stretching and muscle catches to land it in traffic and moving it with manual force. Sure it does look small head on (cos of it's skinny twisterish face), but it's not. I love the way it looks.

                          However one bad points about dazzler is that while you ride it, you feel it's missing a 6th gear cos it feels like the engine can take on another gear with perfect ease. And the saddle is hard, it's not so soft and fluffy like that of Fiero

                          Originally posted by amitmalve View Post
                          Just checked my dazzler's maximum possible speed in each gear -
                          2nd cog - 70 km/h @ 9800rpm
                          3rd cog - 94 km/h @ 9800rpm
                          4th cog - 114 km/h@ 9800rpm
                          5th cog - 134km/h @ 9800rpm
                          All speeds are speedo indicated. Also, rev limiter cuts in after 9800rpm, so there is no way one can go past it as needle just keeps bouncing off the rev limiter! So, i guess 134km/h(speedo indicated) is the max speed dazzler can reach in stock condition.
                          Good job , I'd been wanting to test that. But now i can brag about the capability atleast ^_^ 134 is almost equal to that of R15 and A180 lol

                          Originally posted by sunil r View Post
                          Hey,

                          We are not supposed to exceed 8.5 rpm if we want out engine to be in good condition right ??

                          I've done,

                          First 600 km :- Kept it under 50kmph and 4 rpm, avg speed was 45kmph
                          600-850km :- keeping it under 65kmph and 5 rpm, Avg speed is 55 kmph
                          How long do i need to maintain this ? Upto 1000km or 3000km ?
                          Mine has got 900-1000 on Odo and i go 30-50 in city roads but when i find empty roads in the outskirts i go atleast 60kmph. I've done 80 @ 5500RPM after 1st service many times, first time was when the odo was counting around 700kms ^_^. Even did 70 @5000RPM before the first service (just a for 10 seconds though, twice, the Honda folks had told me i could freely ride it anywhere below 60kmph when i got it).
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                          • Originally posted by The_Lone_Rider View Post
                            134 is almost equal to that of R15 and A180 lol
                            Dazzler may go up to 134km/h,but the main difference between Dazzler and R15 is time taken to took it to 134.

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                            • Originally posted by TheDazzler View Post
                              i really don't feel like that with 2 disk brakes proprosante to each other they improve handling.. rather then skidding.. of course they would skid you hit them like you are applying drum brake.. and thats when the ABS come's in picture.. people are now a days getting the option of 2 disk brakes in 150 segments.. ealier they only had drum brake's even in some of the legends like RX125 and all hence people fell safe with drum brakes rather then disk brakes..
                              Absolutely agree. Actually, rear disc brake without ABS can cause skidding. Thats why honda intentionally gave soft rear disc brake for dazzler. So, the rear disc on dazzler, hunk, and cbzx are all just for show, but their function is equal to drum brake. Rear disc brake not needed for a 150cc bike. About 75% of braking is done by front brakes. Honda should have given bigger front disc brakes, like FZs. But honda have done lots of cost-cutting on dazzler.

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                              • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                                Dazzler may go up to 134km/h,but the main difference between Dazzler and R15 is time taken to took it to 134.
                                +1.Totally agree with this. It takes a lot of effort(tail wind, slope) to reach 134 on dazzler when compared to R15. If same efforts are taken on R15, it may reach 150. R15 is altogether a different ball game(4 valve, forged piston, diasil cylinder, liquid cooling, fuel injection, 6cogs) so its not worth comparing these two bikes for their top speeds. Also, as I said earlier, dazzler is having rev [email protected], so there is no way one can go past this(stock condition).If one removes this limiter, even 140+ is possible on dazzler, I guess.
                                Last edited by amitmalve; 08-07-2011, 12:45 AM. Reason: typo error

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