Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[pulsarized]

Please help

Hi guys
I am through with my 55 w lamp prob
thanks to sajjit abhijeet and abhi(my old friend)!



I gave that lamp and avy coil to my friend who was having an ug3 180 upgraded successfully

I have an UG4 180(for new readers )

My problem starts now,I got and got an HID from Hardeep Chennai(1300+200=1500)

Chinese make!!

It has an H4 symbol in it and a reading 6000k.nothing else.
I fitted it with some mechanic's help.

They ve used stock switch for low beam and the another one for high beam.

Also added LED pilot lamps.

There is a small bulb beside it which acts for low beam and a HID comes into action for the high beam.

The high beam throw is awesome but not uniform.it runs here and there.

Also what is the metal plate like thing that runs along the length of the bulb.

Is it for reflection to high beam or something else??

I am feeling really bad about the high beam s sharp nature.its such a nuisance.

I already got nice gaaliyan from the fellow drivers.

Guys suggest me some solution.
Can i put some projector around this lamp??

I cant spend much.can i find some projector from scrapyards.

or is there anything i can do about this!

If i remove the small bulb(appears to be screwed into the base) will this become a single beam HID which could be put into some projector?

What is this kind of bulb called?

can it be used only for high beam.can i at least make it into low beam at the least??

Gurus from XBHP please help me out !

[sajjt]

Hi guys
I am through with my 55 w lamp prob
thanks to sajjit abhijeet and abhi(my old friend)!



I gave that lamp and avy coil to my friend who was having an ug3 180 upgraded successfully

I have an UG4 180(for new readers )

My problem starts now,I got and got an HID from Hardeep Chennai(1300+200=1500)

Chinese make!!

It has an H4 symbol in it and a reading 6000k.nothing else.
I fitted it with some mechanic's help.

They ve used stock switch for low beam and the another one for high beam.

Also added LED pilot lamps.

There is a small bulb beside it which acts for low beam and a HID comes into action for the high beam.

The high beam throw is awesome but not uniform.it runs here and there.

Also what is the metal plate like thing that runs along the length of the bulb.

Is it for reflection to high beam or something else??

I am feeling really bad about the high beam s sharp nature.its such a nuisance.

I already got nice gaaliyan from the fellow drivers.

Guys suggest me some solution.
Can i put some projector around this lamp??

I cant spend much.can i find some projector from scrapyards.

or is there anything i can do about this!

If i remove the small bulb(appears to be screwed into the base) will this become a single beam HID which could be put into some projector?

What is this kind of bulb called?

can it be used only for high beam.can i at least make it into low beam at the least??

Gurus from XBHP please help me out !

Good to hear that u've solved the earlier issue and sad to hear....

U've bought a HID+Halogen combo kit where the halogen bulb act as low beam and HID for high beam. Metal sheet is the glare shield for reducing glare from the HID to oncomers to an extent.

Firstly you need to understand that the HID on a stock reflector wont give u a good spread especially other than round shape reflectors. No wonder u r not happy with the HID spread as it was my case long back once I gone for a HID kit. But that was a Bixenon kit where the HID bulb will go back and forth movement to make the both the spreads and its considered to be the least power consuming than the halogen+HID combo as the halogen is mostly 55w will be straining the batt.

U cant use this bulb as low beam as the bulb position is different to match with the reflector focus point.

Its another wrong concept everyone carrying along is to use the H4/H7 bulb for a projector. So forget about fixing this bulb on to any projector as the bulb base is totally different and very small compared to other bulb bases.

The best thing I can suggest is sell off this kit to some one you dont know at a throw away price and go for a junk yard hunting for a good H3 projector from Skoda or any good cars and do the mod like Nano did. If u have good skills in bargaining, u can get a projector for 300-500/ Check the reflector inside for the coatings are in good shape, any discolour or any patch is there dont opt for it. Also look for the stains on lens too.

Once u get the projector only go for the bulb as it can be different from projector to projector.

Have a happy hunting

[phanikar]

hi guys ,has anyone experimented with their stock P150 headlights and got a better O/P,without changing the wiring or making any changes in the coil(Sorry if i have repeted the the topic, i wasnt able to go through the entire thread)

[sajjt]

hi guys ,has anyone experimented with their stock P150 headlights and got a better O/P,without changing the wiring or making any changes in the coil(Sorry if i have repeted the the topic, i wasnt able to go through the entire thread)

Dude, no pain no gain, without any mods its stock condition then how will it be different from others and getting more output

[NANOtechnology]

if you guys are considering putting up hid's for low beam than please opt for projectors, or round headlamps...

someone or the other always curses me whenever i use my high beam hid, but with low beam hid (which is in a projector), not only it is soothing to look at directly, but also has amazing spread, and no problems to others..

a lot of efforts is involved, but all is worth it..

the real source of inspiration for projectors is sajjt himself..
its better to not be a pain for others, be it oncoming traffic, be it a group of dogs sleeping on the roads..

and still enjoy HIGH INTENSITY LIGHTS.

hunt for projectors first as sajjt said, bulb can follow later on when the perfect socket is known...

[Shreeni0403]

[undefineme3]

With a lot of help from Drvmtm, I Did this small Headlight mod on my bike







1st pic; the setup: 2x55W and 1x100W
2nd pic: 100W in action
3nd pic: 2x55W in action

EDIT: Running on Full DC of 2x12v7Amps batteries in parallel.

[abhijeet080808]

^^Why 2 batteries? And with a load of about 200W, what are the changes done to the electricals?

[lijok]

@undefineme3 - its a wicked setup bro... 200W of lighting.... two batteries!!! Your ride must be like a bulldozer wrt lighting!!

Please post a few pics of the light throw, and if possible, also day time pic of the setup... asking daytime pic just to see how far out the 55W lights are...

[undefineme3]

^^Why 2 batteries? And with a load of about 200W, what are the changes done to the electricals?

2 batteries because i was planning to go for 2xHID and it was not an option with a normal 9amp battery. This could happen in the near future. Another thing, Backup. I dont want to be stranded in the middle of the road and left to push start the bike.

As for electricals, coil rewinding done, Custom made rectifier, 5mm wiring used for headlight setup and thats about it.

@undefineme3 - its a wicked setup bro... 200W of lighting.... two batteries!!! Your ride must be like a bulldozer wrt lighting!!

Please post a few pics of the light throw, and if possible, also day time pic of the setup... asking daytime pic just to see how far out the 55W lights are...

Thanks dude Ah, yes. will post some more pics. COmpleted the setup just today evening. So took pics what i could. Will take day-time pics and would post them.

[sajjt]

Nice update dude. 200W lighting on tap wow. its like a real flood light ride. No wonder u've gone for that bcz the Lord Of Lighting - Dr. Vivek is the guide for u.

What makes me bit nervous is after finishing ur setup, he'll defnitely go for a 300W for his own, he just cant resist the temptation what u created. Poor Bengali truckies.. they r going to have a hard time with you light maniacs

Also post some good night spreads, lets too enjoy at least by seeing it.

[lockhrt999]

@ undefineme3 : what's the use of such photos? if you take photos of my bike front with stock HL on it will look same. Please post photos of light throw.

[pulsarized]

guys an update

i removed the hid from the headlight and put into a spot lamp and fixed it on the crash guard

i ve removed the halogen in the h4 base and also the shield.

i ve restored the stock light into the headlight for low beam alone. because the connection was available readily.

i have a few doubts.

i read in the hid box that ballast is aropund 12000V !!

1.i cut the wire coming from the ballast and extended it with a wire from electrical shop.will this wire be able to bear the load.

2.Also will the HID cause electic hazard owing to the high voltage.

3.The spot lamp seems to get heated very badly after minutes of usage.
will it explode? i may sound silly
but i am afraid as i have no idea about these things.

4.Also the spot lamp is not that waterproof.will it cause problems?the wire behind the base of the hid seems to extend out of the spot lamp.

Guys clarify

[abhijeet080808]

2 batteries because i was planning to go for 2xHID and it was not an option with a normal 9amp battery. This could happen in the near future. Another thing, Backup. I dont want to be stranded in the middle of the road and left to push start the bike.

As for electricals, coil rewinding done, Custom made rectifier, 5mm wiring used for headlight setup and thats about it.

So what is your break even rpm? (rpm at which there is no charge discharge with 200W load?

And the bullet stator coil is really huge or what? I am jealous!

[undefineme3]

So what is your break even rpm? (rpm at which there is no charge discharge with 200W load?

And the bullet stator coil is really huge or what? I am jealous!

Errr, never tested the break even RPM (and how do i test that in a DC setup?? Till today, i've not have any dircharging issues.

And bullet stator coil?? I have the normal P150s coil only.

@ undefineme3 : what's the use of such photos? if you take photos of my bike front with stock HL on it will look same. Please post photos of light throw.

Will post it tonight bro.