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  • #17626
    Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

    Originally posted by Subhradeep View Post
    150 bucks for chain lubrication!! They cost me 20 bucks I think..
    Here they cost 120rs for the chain lube..
    20rs doesn't seem right..
    Ride safe and have fun.
    Regards
    Nadeem

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    • #17627
      Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

      The service centre uses yamalube chain lube right? I bought the entire can for 280 or 380.cant remember which exactly. Had bought a couple of products together.

      Sent from my GT-I9082 using Tapatalk 2

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      • #17628
        Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

        Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
        20 bucks for chain lubing? Must be 200. 20 bucks is way too cheap.

        Cheerz!!
        Maybe I know that 20 bucks wala chain lube is just putting used engine oil of previous customers on the chain.at least something is better than nothing on the chain.

        Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II

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        • #17629
          Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

          Originally posted by SpeedyKol View Post
          Maybe I know that 20 bucks wala chain lube is just putting used engine oil of previous customers on the chain.at least something is better than nothing on the chain.

          Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II

          Guys.... pls shed some light on my problems!!

          I am way too worried to encounter problems like these in my new bike.

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          • #17630
            Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

            Originally posted by Pinak-the stunner View Post
            Guys.... pls shed some light on my problems!!

            I am way too worried to encounter problems like these in my new bike.

            Using used engine oil is a very common practice for chain lube throughout the country, it even stays on longer and is more thicker than most chain sprays available here. The downside being it will leave a messy rear alloy and rear wheel with splattered oil in the back.

            Cheers
            Ride Safe
            Krishna
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            Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

            P            ulsar 220F            |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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            • #17631
              Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

              Originally posted by Pinak-the stunner View Post
              Guys.... pls shed some light on my problems!!

              I am way too worried to encounter problems like these in my new bike.
              Bro, first check whether it is 20 or 200. You are from Mumbai. From where do you get the bike serviced?

              Cheerz!!
              The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

              Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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              • #17632
                Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                Originally posted by Pinak-the stunner View Post
                Recently I did a 200 km ride after which I am noticing a couple of problems....

                1. Whenever after revving the engine, I lower the throttle, I hear a strange sound at the exhaust.....something like "vroo vroo". some mild bursting like sound.

                2. whenever the bike hits a sudden pothole, I hear a 'khat khat' sound, coming from somewhere near the rear suspension. my bike is only 1073 kms old & I have followed all the rules of break in & still following those.

                1st servicing is done at 220 kms with oil change, oil filter change & other jobs.
                Get the AIS Unit checked out at the SVC.. also ask the SVC guy to look into the Breathing pipe that connects from AIS to the Engine Head.. Maximum time AIS is the culprit...

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                • #17633
                  Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

                  Originally posted by Pinak-the stunner View Post
                  Guys.... pls shed some light on my problems!!

                  I am way too worried to encounter problems like these in my new bike.
                  Khat khat sound is most probably either from the lower end of the rear mudguard or from the toolbox inside the seat.get both checked.
                  And about the sound from the exhaust,its pretty normal when engine is new.no worries. As u ride,the sound will go away.

                  Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II

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                  • #17634
                    Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

                    Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                    Using used engine oil is a very common practice for chain lube throughout the country, it even stays on longer and is more thicker than most chain sprays available here. The downside being it will leave a messy rear alloy and rear wheel with splattered oil in the back.

                    Cheers
                    Ride Safe
                    Krishna
                    Yamaha Motorbikes have O- Ring type chain for which the used-oil lubrication must be avoided. These Chain Sprays are specifically for the O ring Chains where the O rings are built into them and helps to keep them lubricated from "inside" and thus keeps the moving parts greased and well lubed. This gives a smooth feeling and less drag whereas the used oil wont be able to penetrate inside and thus damage the chain and sprocket in the longer run

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                    • #17635
                      Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

                      Originally posted by chandra37 View Post
                      Yamaha Motorbikes have O- Ring type chain for which the used-oil lubrication must be avoided. These Chain Sprays are specifically for the O ring Chains where the O rings are built into them and helps to keep them lubricated from "inside" and thus keeps the moving parts greased and well lubed. This gives a smooth feeling and less drag whereas the used oil wont be able to penetrate inside and thus damage the chain and sprocket in the longer run
                      Most bikes have o-ring chains now a days, the open chain cover ones, and i have been using used engine oil for 3 years now. And my chain sprocket kit lasted over 20k on average(talking about the 220 here, so the wear and tear based on the transmission power is more here viz-a-viz the fz). So i guess, it won't affect it that much, similar to the argument that wd40 reduces chain life, and i use wd40 for cleaning the chain. So a combination of wd40 and used engine oil gives me a average chain life of 20k.

                      Note: if you really want to increase chain life follow these steps -
                      *maintain perfect slack
                      *use lesser of sudden throttle burst
                      *never make the bike pull overload
                      *don't lug the engine
                      *correct tire pressure
                      *chain lube.

                      So you see, chain lube is just part of the equation,

                      I hope you get my point.

                      Cheers
                      Ride Safe
                      Krishna
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                      Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                      P                      ulsar 220F                      |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                      • #17636
                        Re: Yamaha FZ-S.. Does not seem to be free for ride..

                        Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                        Using used engine oil is a very common practice for chain lube throughout the country, it even stays on longer and is more thicker than most chain sprays available here. The downside being it will leave a messy rear alloy and rear wheel with splattered oil in the back.
                        Originally posted by chandra37 View Post
                        Yamaha Motorbikes have O- Ring type chain for which the used-oil lubrication must be avoided. These Chain Sprays are specifically for the O ring Chains where the O rings are built into them and helps to keep them lubricated from "inside" and thus keeps the moving parts greased and well lubed. This gives a smooth feeling and less drag whereas the used oil wont be able to penetrate inside and thus damage the chain and sprocket in the longer run
                        Although its a common practice, try avoiding it at all costs!!
                        Used engine oil contains very minute metallic impurities in it which come from the engine when the engine parts sub against each other.
                        When you use this oil on your chain you are introducing impurities between the rubber o-rings and the chain links that rub together. This will cause them to wear out significantly.

                        Its best to use purpose built chain-lube but if thats not an option, try using EP-90 gear oil from Bharat Petroleum. Its a very thick oil and is good for lubricating the chain.

                        And yes as krish2778 says, make sure you take care of the other things about the chain.


                        Cheers!!
                        Your pair of feet can tire you... Your pair of wheels can never tire you...

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                        • #17637
                          Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                          The best practice is, to tell the SVC guy to do the chain lube in the end, when you are taking the delivery of the bike from SVC. In this way you can see how he does the chain lube. If he uses used oil, be loud and clear and tell hin straight NO. AFAIK, SVC guys use cheaper chain clean and chain lube (apart from Factory Shop).

                          Cheerz!!
                          The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                          Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                          • #17638
                            Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                            Almost all service guys use 'used engine oil' to lube the chains.
                            I have seen in Bajaj, Tvs, Hero Honda, Yamaha and even Suzuki, For all the bikes with closed chain covers, Used Engine oil is used to lube the chains.
                            The worst point about used engine oil is it never stays for a long time and is never good for the drive chain.
                            I would consider used engine oil to be used only in worst of worst cases, Example : if there is nothing to source, like no spray, no gear oil, not even new engine oil, then it can be used as a last and worst alternative.
                            Something is better than nothing.
                            Royal Enfield Bullet Standard 350cc 1989, Bajaj Avenger 200-2009, Pulsar 200 NS 2015.

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                            • #17639
                              Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                              Originally posted by chandra37 View Post
                              Get the AIS Unit checked out at the SVC.. also ask the SVC guy to look into the Breathing pipe that connects from AIS to the Engine Head.. Maximum time AIS is the culprit...
                              I am sorry to say but I dont understand whats the AIS unit! pls tell me more about it.

                              The svc guys are not able to locate the problem. They say its a case of misfiring & have checked the spark plug & carb settings. but without any success!!

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                              Originally posted by SpeedyKol View Post
                              Khat khat sound is most probably either from the lower end of the rear mudguard or from the toolbox inside the seat.get both checked.
                              And about the sound from the exhaust,its pretty normal when engine is new.no worries. As u ride,the sound will go away.

                              Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II
                              Even I thought that the sound may be from the tool box. So I removed it & then rode. The sound still persists. I went to svc where the mechanic rode my bike & admitted that there is some sound. He tested the mudguard & all other movable parts but was clueless. He then said that such sounds should be overlooked & is not a very big deal. I was very angry & decided to consult the head mechanic - Ujjwal da, but he had left the job a week earlier & presently theres no good mechanic here in Malda svc.

                              Since its a very new bike, the prossibility of the suspension bush going kaput is also very less. I am totally clueless & highly dissappointed!

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                              Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                              Using used engine oil is a very common practice for chain lube throughout the country, it even stays on longer and is more thicker than most chain sprays available here. The downside being it will leave a messy rear alloy and rear wheel with splattered oil in the back.

                              Cheers
                              Ride Safe
                              Krishna
                              EP 90 gear oil is ok. its inexpensive & is fairly good for the chain. But before applying it we must clean the chain with petrol/diesel.

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                              • #17640
                                Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                                Originally posted by Pinak-the stunner View Post
                                I am sorry to say but I dont understand whats the AIS unit! pls tell me more about it.

                                The svc guys are not able to locate the problem. They say its a case of misfiring & have checked the spark plug & carb settings. but without any success!!

                                ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                                Even I thought that the sound may be from the tool box. So I removed it & then rode. The sound still persists. I went to svc where the mechanic rode my bike & admitted that there is some sound. He tested the mudguard & all other movable parts but was clueless. He then said that such sounds should be overlooked & is not a very big deal. I was very angry & decided to consult the head mechanic - Ujjwal da, but he had left the job a week earlier & presently theres no good mechanic here in Malda svc.

                                Since its a very new bike, the prossibility of the suspension bush going kaput is also very less. I am totally clueless & highly dissappointed!

                                ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----



                                EP 90 gear oil is ok. its inexpensive & is fairly good for the chain. But before applying it we must clean the chain with petrol/diesel.
                                I know its difficult,but if u could bring ur bike to Aquad Yamaha,Sodepur or Yamaha Factory Shop,Baguihati..ur problem will be surely rectified.I get my servicing done from Aquad and am quite happy with the job they do.

                                Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note II

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