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**SparKot** · 06-19-2014, 01:39 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

ODO @9300km on 1y6m old bike and front brake-pads already worn out? [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] has covered more than 50K kms on super-man pads (not sure front/rear ones though).
[MENTION=58968]bikashnayak[/MENTION] post side photo of brake pads so others can take a peek at those brake pads.

What's the recommended engine-oil grade for this motorcycle? Many reported in Engine-Oils thread that idle-rpm drops when one switches to thicker oils.

Can't find the URL for original Spanish version of Yamaha FZ-16/FZS service manual, help please.

**theironhorse99** · 06-19-2014, 01:45 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

@Divya Sharan has covered more than 50K kms on super-man pads (not sure front/rear ones though).

50k on single set of pads ???

that is some achievement... Divya bhai... put your thoughts on it...

**Ishwor** · 06-19-2014, 01:54 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

ODO @9300km on 1y6m old bike and front brake-pads already worn out? [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] has covered more than 50K kms on super-man pads (not sure front/rear ones though).
[MENTION=58968]bikashnayak[/MENTION] post side photo of brake pads so others can take a peek at those brake pads.

What's the recommended engine-oil grade for this motorcycle? Many reported in Engine-Oils thread that idle-rpm drops when one switches to thicker oils.

Can't find the URL for original Spanish version of Yamaha FZ-16/FZS service manual, help please.

Google for service manual of fz16.You will get english version.I have copy of both spanish and english.Picture resolution is not so good on the english version.

Engine il grade is 20w40 or 20w50 depending upon temperature or riding condition.

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**SparKot** · 06-19-2014, 02:19 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

@Divya Sharan has covered more than 50K kms on super-man pads (not sure front/rear ones though).

50k on single set of pads ???

that is some achievement... Divya bhai... put your thoughts on it...

I stand corrected

front @15500 kms : lost the link
rear @52000 kms still going : [Ownership Thread]: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR - Page 1360

Originally posted by Ishwor View Post

Google for service manual of fz16.You will get english version.I have copy of both spanish and english. Picture resolution is not so good on the english version...

Can you share/PM the download link Spanish version?

**theironhorse99** · 06-19-2014, 02:22 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

I stand corrected

rear @52000 kms still going : [Ownership Thread]: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR - Page 1360

what are these made of ????

diamond powder ?
ceramic pads ?
carbon fiber ?

thats some serious running for a pad and by the pic it looks like another 30k of life left....

**nadz11.ns** · 06-19-2014, 02:26 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

Can't find the URL for original Spanish version of Yamaha FZ-16/FZS service manual, help please.

its 20w40 and 20w50

**accuengineer** · 06-19-2014, 03:03 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Normally the braking style should be 80% front and 20% back. Most of the time we seldom use the back brakes. We use the front brakes more often. I've changed my front pads twice and still on stock back brake pads. My ODO is 35000 kms.
Cheers,

Mathews

**SparKot** · 06-19-2014, 03:28 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by SparKot View Post

...
Can you share/PM the download link Spanish version?

Got it now from "yamaha fz16 manual filetype

df": http://www.clubfz16argentina.com.ar/...rviciofz16.pdf

This manual is super cool

, I like those outlined images compared to actual images.

**Aadi__Wasi** · 06-19-2014, 07:51 PM

Fork Oil

Hi everyone,

I am going for a fork oil and fork seal change for my FZ 16 as one of the fork seal has broken and there is a leakage. So can you please recommend any good fork oil which will be good for FZ? what grade should we use for the bike, is it 15w or 20w.

Thanks.

**SparKot** · 06-19-2014, 08:34 PM

Re: Fork Oil

Originally posted by Aadi__Wasi View Post

...
So can you please recommend any good fork oil which will be good for FZ? what grade should we use for the bike, is it 15w or 20w.
...

fork oil grade : 10w
Quantity : 459 ml per fork

Source : service manual page #119, #120 i.e. section 4-39, 4-40

Get the fork-oil from a Yamaha-SVC itself.

If possible take photos while fork-oil change & share.

**bikashnayak** · 06-19-2014, 08:43 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by accuengineer View Post

Idle RPM may not be the culprit as he is on the move. Once when I was riding my bike in 60kms/h and was in the 3rd or 4th gear. I had to take a sharp turn so slowed down to almost 10 to 15 kms/h. The bike shut down due to the higher gear. I did not down shift the gears that also can be the problem.
@bikashnayak I suggest you change over to SS oil Motul 5100. And see if the bike behaves better.
Cheers,

Mathews

1st week of July coming service I will change to SS Oil. Bike is smooth , no problem at all . Gear shift is smooth ,no heating issue.
As per your suggestion I will try SS Oil now. IDLE RPM is OK set to the recommended manual and set by SVC.
About the DISK PAD I will check from my local mechanic.

I am little rookie to this area I really don't now how to check it.

**sachin_v** · 06-19-2014, 11:34 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

This was the state of the spark plug when i checked it today. The bike was feeling sluggish , and was not getting started easily. Is the spark plug the culprit? As mentioned in the previous threads, this happens due to wrong A/F ratio. But as i know, the carburetor has never been fiddled with. The bike's getting serviced every 2.5k kms at authorized service center. Had no problems until now but it almost turns off when i stop throttling. It was last serviced 1700 kms ago and had replaced the air filter, to stock itself. What might be wrong?

**SparKot** · 06-19-2014, 11:46 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by sachin_v View Post

What might be wrong?

Are you using default/stock plug? How many kms ridden on that plug?

Most likely:

1. Rich AFR
2. Problem in ignition system
3. using a cold plug, outside recommended range

**arijitmaniac** · 06-20-2014, 12:09 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Originally posted by sachin_v View Post

This was the state of the spark plug when i checked it today. The bike was feeling sluggish , and was not getting started easily. Is the spark plug the culprit? As mentioned in the previous threads, this happens due to wrong A/F ratio. But as i know, the carburetor has never been fiddled with. The bike's getting serviced every 2.5k kms at authorized service center. Had no problems until now but it almost turns off when i stop throttling. It was last serviced 1700 kms ago and had replaced the air filter, to stock itself. What might be wrong?

Wow. Not too good buddy

In addition to the soot you also seem to have oil deposits.
A few reasons I'm able to think of:

Rich AFR. Can be due to
- Improperly tuned carb. Since you said that the carb was never fiddled with, the possibility is remote but still worth looking into.
- Something blocking the air intake port under the seat. Did you keep your bike documents in that "slot" by mistake? A common error
Bust piston rings resulting in compression loss and causing oil to enter the combustion chamber and depositing on the spark plug. Try this. Hold a piece of paper in front of the exhaust and ask your friend to rev your engine up hard. See if you find any oil deposits on the paper. If so then sadly your piston rings are bust buddy You will have to get them replaced which requires engine disassembly.

Hope all goes well

Cheers!!

**sachin_v** · 06-20-2014, 11:36 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Are you using default/stock plug? How many kms ridden on that plug?

Spark plug was changed by the SVC during the previous service, its just 1700 kms old. In the bill it says " Spark Plug- (NGK-CPR8EA-9)"

Hold a piece of paper in front of the exhaust and ask your friend to rev your engine up hard. See if you find any oil deposits on the paper.

It looks more like carbon soot. There was a bit of black smoke when i started the bike and it stuck the paper. Consequently it reduced, when i held the paper after running it for over a minute, the black soot on the paper reduced. Is that oil deposit?
Its just 18600 kms on the odo , I hardly ride it in trash mode, taken the up most care! can it really be the busted piston rings? Heartbreaking

I am unable to take it to svc due to my exams. Is it advisable not to ride under these conditions?
One more thing, a local mech said, it can be rectified by setting the idling knob right. Shall i give it a try?

Thanks a lot for the response.

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