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  • Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
    Guys, need some help.
    I feel the carb tune is running too rich for normal riding.
    The ODO is 1500kms, post 1400 i could feel that the parts had set in, and officially the run-in is over, but will open her up only after the oil change.
    Ok, so getting to the problem, i have been running a bit too rich i guess, i keep getting popping sound on de-accelaration, and some time during start-up too.
    I tried removing the spark plug to conform but its too darn tight, not able to remove it with the toolkit coming along with the bike. Need some tip on that as well..........................
    If i have understood your query correctly... You are getting a popping sound constantly... then member RAK had posted a similar problem and it turned out to the AIS box or the Air Induction Box which was the culprit. Get it checked and pinpoint it to them. If they don't troubleshoot it properly then a nice corporate mail to yamaha back office will do the job for you.

    How much mileage are you getting? Again the same question applies.. did you calculate the mileage by only putting in 3-4 ltrs or did tank full to reserve method? are the tire pressure set to the recommended level or there is any puncture in the rear? What is the style you are riding your bike? Sedate, Mix or Thrashing? All these factors will affect the FE. Don't suddenly jump to the conclusions that the AFR may be set wrong. There is also a possibility that the petrol bunks may be cheating you filling lesser fuel.

    If all of the factors combined make you deduce to wrong AFR or rich tuning then you should let them change the settings and make it stoich.

    Hope this helps,


    @Muztarique & All: Please don't make me a celebrity on this thread .. i am just merely following the footsteps of other senior riders and doing what has been generally followed in xbhp since, its inception.

    Cheers,
    A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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    • I checked the sparks, its a lean mixture, so now im not sure whats causing that popping at deaccelaration, will get it checkd at the svc.

      Mileage, i cant be sure, because i havent checked yet, riding style is sedate riding style, under strict run-in speeds and rpm. Im not that concerned about the FE, just added it so that it may help in pin pointing.
      So the mixture is lean, not too lean i guess, so im going to leave it as such and check if the popping still continues, if yes, then its to the svc for sure.

      Thanks for the response.

      Cheers
      Ride Safe
      krishna
      Originally posted by shv18 View Post
      If i have understood your query correctly... You are getting a popping sound constantly... then member RAK had posted a similar problem and it turned out to the AIS box or the Air Induction Box which was the culprit. Get it checked and pinpoint it to them. If they don't troubleshoot it properly then a nice corporate mail to yamaha back office will do the job for you.

      How much mileage are you getting? Again the same question applies.. did you calculate the mileage by only putting in 3-4 ltrs or did tank full to reserve method? are the tire pressure set to the recommended level or there is any puncture in the rear? What is the style you are riding your bike? Sedate, Mix or Thrashing? All these factors will affect the FE. Don't suddenly jump to the conclusions that the AFR may be set wrong. There is also a possibility that the petrol bunks may be cheating you filling lesser fuel.

      If all of the factors combined make you deduce to wrong AFR or rich tuning then you should let them change the settings and make it stoich.

      Hope this helps,


      @Muztarique & All: Please don't make me a celebrity on this thread .. i am just merely following the footsteps of other senior riders and doing what has been generally followed in xbhp since, its inception.

      Cheers,
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      |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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      • Originally posted by jkhan69 View Post
        Muztariq sahib, can you share the image of the can for the benefit of people like me. I'd also like to experiment with Shell Delvac.

        BTW, what about Shell Rimula (R1, R3 & R4) ?
        Big mistake .. I have labelled it Shell Delvac 1300.. But it is Mobil Delvac 1300. Here are the pics.
        It has all it takes to switch off the businesses of FS and SS oils in fz engines!
        Regarding Shell Rimula/Rotella.. that would also be a very good oil. I havent tested it. But, please see the API SG or above compliance before testing any of those oils. I cant comment on them. Though as per theory they should be good too.

        in sandeepcf's bike the color of the oil is intact even after covering 2000 kms. I was amazed to hear that. In my bike after 1000 kms.. it has started darkening.

        Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
        so you have 2012 fazer with new wider pillion seat and grab rails...???
        Its the old one without kick start and smaller seat.
        Attached Files
        Last edited by muztariq; 10-13-2012, 11:55 PM.

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        • Originally posted by muztariq View Post
          Big mistake .. I have labelled it Shell Delvac 1300.. But it is Mobil Delvac 1300. Here are the pics.
          It has all it takes to switch off the businesses of FS and SS oils in fz engines!
          Regarding Shell Rimula/Rotella.. that would also be a very good oil. I havent tested it. But, please see the API SG or above compliance before testing any of those oils. I cant comment on them. Though as per theory they should be good too.

          in sandeepcf's bike the color of the oil is intact even after covering 2000 kms. I was amazed to hear that. In my bike after 1000 kms.. it has started darkening.


          Its the old one without kick start and smaller seat.
          As this diesel oil contains more detergents,it might have just cleaned your engine better than a gasoline oil.
          Engine Oil in diesel engine turns black within 5kms and the color does not convey anything about its condition.
          After next oil change,your oil will "look new" for more kms.

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          • All About Motor Oil

            Some information there including the oil muztariq uses and a little bit about other brands available.
            2013 Ducati M795 with a few mods in here http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/superbik...95-owners.html
            Want to talk about modding your FZ? http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tech-talk.html
            My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/FZSMik/videos

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            • Originally posted by muztariq View Post
              Big mistake .. I have labelled it Shell Delvac 1300.. But it is Mobil Delvac 1300. Here are the pics.
              It has all it takes to switch off the businesses of FS and SS oils in fz engines!
              Regarding Shell Rimula/Rotella.. that would also be a very good oil. I havent tested it. But, please see the API SG or above compliance before testing any of those oils. I cant comment on them. Though as per theory they should be good too.

              in sandeepcf's bike the color of the oil is intact even after covering 2000 kms. I was amazed to hear that. In my bike after 1000 kms.. it has started darkening.


              Its the old one without kick start and smaller seat.
              my query related to long rear fender was for 2012 model as its coming with very long rear fender which is somehow spoiling its macho looks...exposed rear tire on older model looks way more sexier than the newer one...
              sigpic
              A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith and use up a lot of fuel....

              http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...tml#post963629

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              • Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
                my query related to long rear fender was for 2012 model as its coming with very long rear fender which is somehow spoiling its macho looks...exposed rear tire on older model looks way more sexier than the newer one...
                That ugly fender is very much removable like in the old versions
                #RetiredRider
                #KeyboardWarrior

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                • Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                  I checked the sparks, its a lean mixture, so now im not sure whats causing that popping at deaccelaration, will get it checkd at the svc.
                  Like shv18 said check the AIS...the unit will have three rubber tubes attached to it..check the tube's firm connection at the AIS end, then at the Air box, at the engine head and the Vacuum connection at the inlet...If any one of them is loose or disconnected the "Popping" in exhaust as mentioned by you will occur.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Reg Engine Oil Change

                    Experts need you guys's help w.r.t engine oil change.

                    I changed my ride's engine oil at 20000 kms now odo reads 22900 kms (appx 3000km).

                    Oil: Motul 300V 15W 50 Full synthetic

                    Colour now: Light brown

                    Oil level: at Min mark

                    what is the life of FS oil?

                    In case oil filter is also replaced then how much oil is required?

                    I'm planning for a 1000 km ride this month end (ISG2G).
                    Please guide me whether to change the engine oil completely along with oil filter or just top up is enough.

                    Thanks in advance
                    2009 Yamaha FZ-S

                    The ultimate machine to ride!!!
                    sigpic

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                    • Originally posted by gn.times View Post
                      Experts need you guys's help w.r.t engine oil change.

                      I changed my ride's engine oil at 20000 kms now odo reads 22900 kms (appx 3000km).

                      Oil: Motul 300V 15W 50 Full synthetic

                      Colour now: Light brown

                      Oil level: at Min mark

                      what is the life of FS oil?

                      In case oil filter is also replaced then how much oil is required?

                      I'm planning for a 1000 km ride this month end (ISG2G).
                      Please guide me whether to change the engine oil completely along with oil filter or just top up is enough.

                      Thanks in advance
                      When did you check the oil level?? after riding for 20 kms and when the engine was very hot? if so the oil will show less, as the oil has been pumped across the engine. in the morning, warm up your bike and then check. if the oil is still at min level then a simple top up will suffice.

                      Do you do high speed runs keeping it on the red line for extremely long distances?? if so then the engine oil consumption will be higher. If you do a lot of highway rides then it is normal for engine oil to be consumed regardless of what you've filled; a top will do the job.

                      Check if the oil is sticky between your fingers... if you have recently shifted to fs then the oil will blacken quickly as it has started cleaning up gum deposition. Second time fill up will keep the colour look light green till 3500 kms mx and then it will start browning? how does the 300V feel in your ride... do let us know.

                      In my case my ride required just 30ml top up with my riding style.

                      Cheers,
                      A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                      • Originally posted by gn.times View Post
                        Experts need you guys's help w.r.t engine oil change.

                        I changed my ride's engine oil at 20000 kms now odo reads 22900 kms (appx 3000km).

                        Oil: Motul 300V 15W 50 Full synthetic

                        Colour now: Light brown

                        Oil level: at Min mark

                        what is the life of FS oil?

                        In case oil filter is also replaced then how much oil is required?

                        I'm planning for a 1000 km ride this month end (ISG2G).
                        Please guide me whether to change the engine oil completely along with oil filter or just top up is enough.

                        Thanks in advance
                        as far i have observed 300 v doesn't last too long,but i would like some inputs from anant bro,as i have used 300 v only once.time for a oil change buddy,use 7100 fs,when was the last time you replaced your oil filter?
                        Last edited by sayank10; 10-14-2012, 03:53 PM.
                        and the question remains why do i race?
                        every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                        #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                        #overkill is underrated.
                        #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                        #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                        (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                        • Originally posted by sayank10 View Post
                          as far i have observed 300 v doesn't last too long,but i would like some inputs from anant bro,as i have used 300 v only once.time for a oil change buddy,use 7100 fs,when was the last time you replaced your oil filter?
                          Not true.. where have you made this observation?
                          A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                          • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                            Not true.. where have you made this observation?

                            my 135.
                            as i just told i have used only once,so i was asking for inputs from antz as he used it extensively.
                            moreover some fellow riders,who claimed to use it extensively,are also skeptical about its drain interval.
                            while 300 v seems overkill for my ride ,i was forced to drain it at 2800 km of usage.as the oil level reduced drastically.
                            Last edited by sayank10; 10-14-2012, 04:52 PM.
                            and the question remains why do i race?
                            every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

                            #i have learnt to manipulate my own adrenaline and the perception of biking is different.
                            #overkill is underrated.
                            #how random roads may appear there is always a destination.sigpic
                            #i don't subscribe to co-incidence,either it is the rider or the other moron on the road

                            (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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                            • This AIS is just below the rider seat i assume, im still a starter with the FZ, haven't been through all the parts as of yet. So on my previous cleaning session i had removed the seat but dint find the tubes( i wasn't in particularly looking for the tubes, i dint know something like that exist), so where actually should i be looking ? Sorry if the question sounds too foolish.

                              Cheers
                              Ride Safe
                              Krishna
                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Like shv18 said check the AIS...the unit will have three rubber tubes attached to it..check the tube's firm connection at the AIS end, then at the Air box, at the engine head and the Vacuum connection at the inlet...If any one of them is loose or disconnected the "Popping" in exhaust as mentioned by you will occur.
                              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                              Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                              P
                              ulsar 220F
                              |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                              • Originally posted by sayank10 View Post

                                my 135.
                                as i just told i have used only once,so i was asking for inputs from antz as he used it extensively.
                                moreover some fellow riders,who claimed to use it extensively,are also skeptical about its drain interval.
                                while 300 v seems overkill for my ride ,i was forced to drain it at 2800 km of usage.as the oil level reduced drastically.
                                Erm On FZ well then i have put up a report of over 5000 kms on the 300V never had any issues have posted my detailed reports on the same. Rylan has also done significant kms on his modified FZ, Abhimanyu31 has also used 300V on his R16, the R170 also has 300V in it done about 4000 kms still no problem butter smooth and no dip in oil level. So i am not sure whether it is bike specific, brand specific or related to bike maintenance history and riding style.

                                A general observation is high speed runs on the highway for long distances the bike does consume some oil and it is normal. Other senior riders are more than welcome to correct me if i am wrong on this.

                                Cheers,
                                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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