Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Have seen many fz's with duke tyres but not ridden any. That tyre is much more rounder than the stock and slightly more sticker.

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Yes , I too was ruining my shoes on way to office without this . I got it from a Bajaj parts shop ....

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Now i will have to check that whether this flap can be fixed on rx fender.

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

Hi friends
I bought my FZ-16(version 1) on July 26th, i have followed the engine break in religiously and got my 1st servicing done.

The issues i have in my ride is the rear breaks are less effective, i have corrected it during the service but it just worked out for 1 week, the brake is back to its non working state, What to do about this?
another issue was i had a fork bend and got it corrected during the 1st service, and the SVC forced me to pay 550 rupees for that, but after 10 days again am experiencing the bend and when i contacted my local mechanic, he advised to change the handle bar and to do another fork bend repair. I took the bike to my service center and fought about this and they checked my bike. The SVC guy told that its just a fork error and he promised that he will rectify, but i am skeptical about the SVC guy.should i go with my local mechanic or SVC guy?

One more thing about my ride is i experience little bit of vibration if i clock to 70 km/hr within a short time when i start the bike, is it normal? After encountering the above said issues am worried that the showroom has given me a defective piece. Also i keep comparing my bike sound with other FZ's and i think my ride is noisy than others, am not sure whether its the truth or my imagination. I am frustrated to the core... Please help me guys

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What do you mean by less effective rear brakes, is your bike taking more time to stop than other Fz's, fz's rear braking is little bit designed this way, use 70:30 ratio (front/rear) while braking, to improve rear brakes what you can do is remove back wheel take out brake shoe holding plate rub the brake shoe with emery paper(red one) and rub the inner of the drum to take out any dust, grim refit the shoe and wheel, this should solve your problem but incase the problem arises again change the brake shoe.

For your front fork straightening issue there is no need to get it straighten them again and again mechanic is just trying to loot you, either he hasn't straightened the fork previously or the fork was not properly trued, my advice is get the fork changed these parts are made on highly accurated machines and achieving same accuracy by an outside mechanic is no mean task.

How much kms you have clocked till now and are these vibrations quite deep do you feel any abnormal sound from the engine while cruising at 70km/h, and what happens after you cross this speed limit, take your bike to some other service centre and see what they have to say, check the oil level and get your bike properly tuned most of the times these vibrations do creep up due to lean mixture, but before tuning get your tappets adjusted truly.

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Thanks for the quick reply friend..
Braking --> i owned a discover and i compared the rear braking experience with my new FZ, i couldnt quickly reduce the speed in the FZ. But as you are saying to use 70:30 ratio will follow that and if that is not satisfying i will clean the brake shoe or worst case i will change it.

Vibrations-->after posting this i rode my bike to office and increased the speed gradually instead of shifting gears in mere seconds, the bike seemed to respond well without much vibrations. I have clocked 1340 kms (6-7 weeks). Honestly i am not sure whether my ride is making the proper sounds, when i asked the local mechanic he said the bike is normal and it will be fine when i clock more kms.

Regarding the fork bending, SVC guys did the fork bending, my local mechanic was the one who pointed out the abnormality and insisted me to get the fork bending done in the service center during 1st service. But the service center guys blamed me for the fork bending and charged me 550. after the first service things were normal for few days and again the issue was back. My local mechanic suggested that changing handle bar would do the trick . My SVC guy is saying that there is only a small fork error and promised that he will rectify it. I am not sure whether to believe my mechanic(trust worthy guy) or the SVC. I would like to point out here is that the SVC guys are outright rude and was fighting with me when i complained about the re occurence of the fork issue. I think they are just trying to cover up their issues.

If i want to change my fork how much would it cost?? any idea... sorry for the long reply, am not having good sleep because of these bike issues.

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

[MENTION=71812]Balaji.S[/MENTION] why is the fork bent? Have you met with an accident?

The rear brakes are never 100% effective, you have to use front and rear brake in 80-20 ratio (80% front, 20% rear).

Cheerz!!

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Ok i will follow the 80:20 ratio
No i didnt have any accident, During delivery the showroom guys might have dropped it at some time or they could have mishandled it. It was a worst delivery service from the showroom. As i didnt have any previous experience n FZ i didnt find anything odd except the cintinous pain in hand. Later the SVC confirmed the bend and blamed me that i might have dropped it or ridden in potholes

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I came to know from this forum that handbar costs around 500 rs, if i change the handle bar willthe issue be rectified?
[MENTION=49419]kusmaker[/MENTION] you have suggested for changing the fork, how much it will cost?

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Ideally front brakes should be used more though it depends on rider to rider some people use more front brakes and some rely on rear brake, using front and rear brakes simultaneously is an art and you have to fine tune this art to get desired braking so start using front brake more plus front is an hydraulic brake system hence it has got more stopping power from the rear one.

Your odo reading is just 1340 kms hence vibrations are understandable, i think there is no need to worry only make sure that you are not getting any kind of unusual sound from the engine, like ringing sound or some kind of rubbing sound, listen the sound of the engine when it idles twist the throttle and see if you can hear any kind of engine malfunction sound, or block the exhaust with your hand(use some old cloth) now twist the throttle hard and you will immediately notice any kind of weird noise(if it's there).

As far as SVC guys are concerned all of them are same they are rude, and will try to fight on every matter, never fight with them when you are on your own at the service station, regarding the handle it should only be changed when you have met with an accident or your bike had a nasty fall recently, are you feeling pain in your shoulder or hands while riding the bike or feeling uneasy while turning the handle, if the forks are bent then changing of the handle won't erase the problem, have you checked the bottom T of the forks(lower part of the T-stem which holds the forks) most of the times when you face an accident these T stem also takes a hit as it's the part of the front fork assembly and gets bent, you can again go for straightening but i doubt they will be able to sort the issue.

Worst case scenario is of changing the front fork tube, it depends that whether both of the forks are bended or the single one is bended if both of them are bended then you are looking at an expense of roughly 3000/-rs,(both fork tubes) excluded labour charge, front fork seal, front fork oil, and T-stem.Complete front fork assembly should lighter your wallet by approx. 5000/-rs, take your bike to some shocker repairing shops just for another view and tell them your problem but don't tell them that you already know that the forks are bent and see what they have to say, sometimes one finds a more intelligent guys at these shops.

No need for sorry dear as your problem is understandable.

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Changing the handlebars will not solve the fork issue. It has to be rectified. A bent fork will affect the handling of your bike.
Get it fixed at the SVC. If the SVC blames you with a fall that damaged the fork, show them that there are no scratches to indicate a fall so violent that it bent your fork. If the SVC is not helping, then call Yamaha or send a mail to them from their website. From my experience, Yamaha does respond. Usually within 3-4 days. And believe me they will get the SVC to fix your problem. This is coming from personal experience.

Cheers!

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[MENTION=49419]kusmaker[/MENTION]
Braking issue -->now am clear

Fork bend--> i feel the pain in my wrists while driving the bike, not while turning. As per the SVC guy i visited yesterday, he stated that its just a minor fork error and he will rectify. I will visit the SVC coming saturday will try to get this rectified and i will update it here. I hope it does not go to the level of changing the fork tube. And i am thinking of changing the service center for the second service.

Engine sounds --> i will test like you said and update. Honestly i dont know to differentiate the sounds, bcos my previous 100cc was the nosiest one and comparitively my FZ seems to be quiet . Still i will try to identify any abnormality

Thanks bro!!

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[MENTION=23109]Arjit[/MENTION]maniac
I tried to justify that i didnt drop the bike, but the SVC manager said the bend might have happened not only because dropping the bike, but also riding in potholes. I got fed up and paid the money. But still the issue persists. Getting rectified the issue or not am thinking of complaining to yamaha about the showroom and SVC, I still didnt recieve my RC book and the showroom guys are not giving proper reasons for ir

Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

[MENTION=71812]Balaji.S[/MENTION] SVC is fooling you by taking you for a ride. Shoot a mail to Yamaha and they will promptly reply. A fork only bends when the bike has a nasty fall (front wheen taking a hit) or the front has been damaged in accident, which isn't your case.

Best way to check for mis-aligned fork is to ride bike (about 30-40kph) leave the handle bar and see if the bike is going in straight line or is going either left or right. To check for bent handle bar, turn the bar to extreme left and measure its distance from the fuel tank (a particular point), do this for other side also.

Cheerz!!

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Forks getting bend due to potholes that's ridiculous, this employee should be appointed as an R&D chief in Yamaha company, note down the name of the employee who is saying this and shoot a mail to the company with the name of this worker plus mention your rc book problem also.

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[MENTION=47870]devils_friend[/MENTION]

Yesterday SVC guy did the same thing you suggested for testing the mis-aligned fork, He rode and left the handle bar at 30-40 kmph. After doing so he concluded that there is a fork error and he will rectify it on coming saturday.
For handle bar i checked as per your suggestion and the gap length is not the same on both the sides, is there a way to rectify this? i Think my local mechanic suggested new handle bar only because of the bent handle bar.
Thanks bro!!

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[MENTION=49419]kusmaker[/MENTION]
i just called the showroom people and they asked for 1 week time to deliver my RC book. And for the bend issue, i think my handle bar is also bent , Anyways i will visit the SVC and try to sort it out. Other wise am gonna complain to yamaha as you said
Thanks Bro!!

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How did the handle bar bend? Did you have a fall? If the bend is minimal, it can be rectified, but not sure how good it will be post rectifying it. Better change it, costs Rs. 300.

If things have gone nasty post your SVC visits, shoot a mail to Yamaha.

Cheerz!!