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I also have back pain bro. And the CBR is said to have a good suspension for touring, but still my back hurts on long trip on any bike.
Check out some stretches on YouTube, for back pain, especially the psoas stretch. Do crunches, not sit-ups, to strengthen the core muscles.

CBR oil filter, air filter and radiator coolant can be changed easily. You will have to change these parts less often than in Bajaj bikes. The Spark plug lasts 48,000 kms as per Honda. Fuel filter can be changed at 20k-48k, change it earlier if you face random shut off problem. Oil filter 12k KMS, air filter 18k kms as per Honda. Common problem with CBR is shim and CCT. Both of them usually surface after 25-50k kms.

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You say oil change interval does not depend on bike, that's very much wrong. What manufacturers recomends is best for their product as per their theoretical understanding.

You cannot follow the 6k or 12k interval in a 100 cc bike when the manufacturer recommends 2k kms. You can always practice different approach but cannot predict the outcome all the time.

And those who wants to take proper care of their vehicle will not crib about the maintenance schedule given by the manufacturer. And those who are least bother about their vehicle will anyway never care about the manufacturers maintenance schedule [emoji12].

Ram

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I didn't say oil change does not depend on bike. What I said was - people don't follow the oil change intervals recommended,instead they follow their own mind, based on what they know/think they know. As in, it doesn't matter what bike they own, they follow their own way.

And, Ram sir, "the proper care of the vehicle" is what is murky here. If you take two CBR 250, one with a run in method of 4k rpm limit until 1000 kms, and another CBR 250 with a run in of 7k rpm until 1000 kms, use the same oil, change at the same time/kms, and both the vehicles last 1 lakh kms, which method would you say has "proper care" and which is "unnecessary care"?

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Thank you for the Quick reply..


Are people at Honda SVC skilled enough to understand our issue?
cos with my NS i had carb issue once and SVC ppl refuse to fix it.. They told me to ride as is..


Dont want to go behind KTM too, their service is good but i need a reliable engine and after sale service.
Which is why am going for CBR even though the model is more than 5yr old.

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KTM is reliable, bro, barring sensor failure and oil leaks. The service depends on mechanic skill. Most SVC sucks, Honda or Bajaj.

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Well I do my oil change based on smell mostly...does that still qualify as unnecessary? 3000-3500 kms I change it based on smell mostly and colour to an extent. Also guys recently I faced these issue on cold starts , like when I start the engine, there's a dug dug dug sound ,as in I feel the revs are a bit choked as soon as I start, not sure if this is normal or some issue, will post a video sometime.

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Bro
What mileage u r getting in city , highway and mixed mode.

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I don't really calculate mileage but if you even drive really rough you can expect 27-30kmpl in the city and 35-40 on the highways depends on your riding style.

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Again no Sir please. The run in procedure is again a big debatable topic. As an IC piston engine the basic configuration remains the same for very long time, hence there are many ways to break in the piston cylinder walls and other engine components.

If say a new type of engine is built by a manufacturer which is completely different from the current piston engines, will you still try your own ways to run in or follow the manufacturer recommendations?

Taking proper care of our vehicle is again a vast topic, a small thing as keeping the vehicle clean also comes under care(or proper care based on the way we clean). And cost associated with it will vary between each and every individual. In the end if you feel you have taken a good care of your vehicle and the vehicle is happy with your maintenance and you are not thinking about over spending money then that's for me is a good care.

Ram

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I completely agree with you, Ram, but, you see, guys who look for the most efficient way to do things often question the way things are done.

I'm just learning from people's experiences, and thus, hoping to keep the vehicle in good condition while spending as little as possible.

For example , we got owners spending 1k for chain cleaner and lube, buying a paddock stand just for lubing the chain. Just as I was gonna get shopping with the Gandhi's in my pocket, I came across this post on xbhp which says- hey, there's no need for lube and cleaner and paddock stand. Just take up some extra oil you have around, don't matter gear or engine oil, and roll the bike fwd, clean the exposed part of the chain, roll it some more, and repeat. That guy saved me 4k bucks, and I found a use for the fugly tin of gear oil I had lying around. End result? Chain sprocket still going at 34,500 kms, on a bike that's seen 7k rpm almost every day it's been on the road. Nothing but gear oil and my old jockeys used to clean it.

Can I say, then, that chain cleaner and lube is the best way to maintain the chain? No. Cheaper and efficient options do exist.

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Oil change intervals as mentioned on the tank sticker on a ZMR - replace every 6k km, top up every 2k km. That too, mineral oil.
I tried my stint with FS oils for around 13k km. 4th fill was drained early. Mobil1 10w40 FS was what kept the bike smoothest.
Now, how did I realize I needed to switch back to mineral?
1. Engine type. ZMR is an old tech engine. Clearances are high. Meaning FS oils caused leaks. SS and mineral oils didn't.
2. Pocket. Mobil1 suited my bike the best but it cost me 1000 rupees per liter and refill quantity was 1.1 Liters.
I found Shell AX7 and Rimula cheaper even after a couple of fills clocking the same mileage.
Mobil1 started wearing down by 4500 km mark. 5k km is the max I stretched to if I recall correctly.

I don't just see the color or rub the oil between my fingers. I also observe how the gear shifts are, if there are pings audible from the engine under load or B2B traffic, if the engine is running harsh etc.

So, oil change doesn't depend upon people, but it depends upon the machine. If my ZMR ran 100k km with ₹1000 worth engine oil with 20 oil changes (say 5k km intervals) and another fellow achieved the same with 2.5k km intervals with a ₹300-400 oil change (say 40 oil changes), I would still feel he did the right thing. He achieved the same with less a load on his pocket.

Don't you think?

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"So, oil change doesn't depend upon people, but it depends upon the machine. If my ZMR ran 100k km with ₹1000 worth engine oil with 20 oil changes (say 5k km intervals) and another fellow achieved the same with 2.5k km intervals with a ₹300-400 oil change (say 40 oil changes), I would still feel he did the right thing. He achieved the same with less a load on his pocket.

Don't you think?"

Exactly, Divya bhai. The bike is the same, zmr, but the people are different. That example is proof of my statement that, no matter which bike, or if both have same bike, people change oil according to their convenience or current knowledge.

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I get your point. There's an underlying caveat though - if the bike runs well for them both. Assume that ZMR digested FS oils well, which it didn't (leaks), I would have persisted with it.
For example, Shivang uses Rimula on his CBR and he's very happy with the results.

But we're talking about oil life and engine longevity in general. If the engine and clutch last long with ultra long oil change intervals, I'd be the last to complain.

One more thing - hyper milers cover long distances on the highway with a stable load on the engine. They maintain fairly constant revs and less gearshifts. Trying to interpolate their observations for city riding (varying load, multiple gear shifts) is wrong IMHO.

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You are right, there are cheaper ways to maintain your vehicle.
There is a lot of misconception and 'social media maintenance tips', go pro 'experts' around which results in a lot of folks being misguided.
Let me put one thing in the clear.. "When in doubt follow the manual" . That doesn't mean one fine morning you wake up and read about say some fancy oil or chain lube and decide to use it immediately (but having neglected regular maintenance earlier). These are machines, so don't expect to 'reverse' the wear and tear/damage using some magic potion. Using a fancy lube might massage your ego, but does little good to your motorcycle if you neglect routine maintenance.

When you educate yourself using some real worthy material, real world experience and common sense, you will be in a better position to understand how things work, why they fail and how you should go about preventing failure and avoiding being scammed by your mechanic.
Manufacturer's give you a recommendation/service interval with a margin of safety so that it is easy for everyone to follow.
The motorcycling scene in India has been changing rapidly over the past few years with bigger, faster bikes being launched and these do have slightly different recommendations/service intervals.
And if someone wants to stick to changing oil every 1500km, well and good.. that's his money to spend and isn't going to harm the vehicle.

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So finally I upgraded to this

Just need to spend 3k on disc pads (ABS) asap and then the touring starts