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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Well checked my tires, it is contigo manufactured by metro.
    My bike is only a month old should I even bother changing the tires?
    The only issue I face is a very slight wobbling of the handle bars at speeds>80 does not cause any discomfort nor those the bike lean to any side.

    Manan.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by Neel08 View Post
      Thanks for replying......theironhorse99,

      Sorry for the spelling....it is lathe machine.

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      Today I was at my SVC to change the Ball Racer Set which will cost 1090/- (parts only) as it need replacement told by the SVC mech during my last servicing which was March,2013 as well SHIM change,but due to lack of time I can't make this happen till today.

      Today after a short TD, SVC mech forward my bike to the Job Card section for two jobs, but during the time of making the Job Card Service Advisor starting the conversation something like 'Sir, you must do the Engine valve De-Carbonizing done as you already paid for the labor charge to open the Engine Head, we need to take the following (god knows what is that) stuff to lathe machine and polish it and re-install, it will cost 1500/- separately & the whole work will be done properly, we are suggesting this to do now as we open the head,else it need to done separately another time when needed'

      They will polish the below part or some thing like this.

      Anyhow my bike 13k kms on odo and it will complete 2 years this August.

      1st Gen CBR250 STD version.

      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

      Please let me know, if the above thing needed or just my svc fool me ?

      Thanks.....

      been on other cbr forums as well including cbr250.net.. however not heard of peole going head carbonization that early...
      ask the svc to stay off the head.. the shims can be replaced only by removing the head cover and cpl of more screws. no need to unpack and remove the head and all..


      and that too you have just done 13k in 2 years.. bro.. mine done 15k in 1 y 1 m....

      for p220's heard of decarbonization around 12k odd... but thats being a bajaj.. ( their policy they know better )..


      people have done 25k miles without any such stuff... just get the shims replaced if needed..

      Originally posted by Manan View Post
      Well checked my tires, it is contigo manufactured by metro.
      My bike is only a month old should I even bother changing the tires?
      The only issue I face is a very slight wobbling of the handle bars at speeds>80 does not cause any discomfort nor those the bike lean to any side.

      Manan.
      that also shudnt happen... its made to run 150 kmph.. if slight wobble at speeds above 80.. then wonder whats gonna happen at 150ish with slighest of debris...
      get it checked...

      mine after the tyre change is like a metamorphic rock at speeds 120ish.. after leaving hands...
      "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

      RE Bullet 1977 - Current
      RX-100 1995 - Current
      CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
      Activa 2004 - Current
      CBR 250R 2012 - Current
      Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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        [QUOTE=that also shudnt happen... its made to run 150 kmph.. if slight wobble at speeds above 80.. then wonder whats gonna happen at 150ish with slighest of debris...
        get it checked...

        mine after the tyre change is like a metamorphic rock at speeds 120ish.. after leaving hands... [/QUOTE]

        I will see to it.

        Manan.

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by Manan View Post
          Can you tell me about the email address to which you sent your complaint regarding the oil mistake.

          I wish to tell them about the consumable fiasco and a request for the tire inspection, rather than going to and fro from the service.

          Manan.


          .
          [email protected]

          Dnt forget to mention the service center name and location in that email. When u mention those details and ur prbs with ur bike, they ll shoot mail to that ASC guys and even mention ur mobile no at the end .
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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by Neel08 View Post
            Question to all CBR Owners,

            During SHIM change is it mandatory to do Valve De-Carbonizing which involve some Led machine stuff .....What is this thing ? It will cost 1500/- separately.

            Or it is just another way to loot customers, please share your thoughts.
            AFAIK, the need for valve de-carbing will arise only if there is something seriously wrong with the combustion process. In a high tech engine like that of the CBR's , this should not ever happen. And it is usually decarbing the valve seat, not the valve face. Soot from the combustion process accumulates over a period of time around the valve seat, esp that of the exhaust valve(s). If left untreated, this results in a leakage of the mixture when the exhaust valve is closed = lesser qty of mixture = lesser power = more strain etc etc.

            I think the ASC is trying to capitalise on your innocence and make a fast 1500 bucks off you. There is absolutely no need to undertake any service jobs on the bike other than those indicated in the manual UNLESS there are clear symptoms of problems.

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Thanks icemang ji & theironhorse99 for the confirmation as well response from our in-house CBR Guru via PM Route (intentionally not mentioning his name here).

              However, today a visit to SVC clear the picture even more, When I asked innocently about what else they worked my bike mech. replied other than 'Ball Racer Set and SHIM Work/Change' they worked with HEAD, in my native ("head er kajta hoyche, khule palish kora hoyche') meaning we worked on head - We uninstalled it - Polish it - Re-install it.

              Anyhow I remain calm and accept it as a learning fees - Never Ever I will enter in this trap again.

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              Anyone confirm this, the below attached picture is a Real SHIM or just another bluff made by my SVC ? (added 2/- coin for size comparison)

              Is it true this kind of SHIM available different size or number ? <-----as just the SVC mech claimed to me, they only got two out of four same number SHIM, if I take my bike today they will charge me for 2 SHIM change because the other SHIM they got don't match the number, So he didn't change those.

              Now is this true or just another way of cheating ?

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              Another que, if those 4 SHIM got change into new, How many KM's can be clocked without facing this issue again?

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              Last edited by Neel08; 07-04-2013, 06:50 PM.

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by Neel08 View Post
                Thanks icemang ji & theironhorse99 for the confirmation as well response from our in-house CBR Guru via PM Route (intentionally not mentioning his name here).

                However, today a visit to SVC clear the picture even more, When I asked innocently about what else they worked my bike mech. replied other than 'Ball Racer Set and SHIM Work/Change' they worked with HEAD, in my native ("head er kajta hoyche, khule palish kora hoyche') meaning we worked on head - We uninstalled it - Polish it - Re-install it.

                Anyhow I remain calm and accept it as a learning fees - Never Ever I will enter in this trap again.

                ------------

                Anyone confirm this, the below attached picture is a Real SHIM or just another bluff made by my SVC ? (added 2/- coin for size comparison)

                Is it true this kind of SHIM available different size or number ? <-----as just the SVC mech claimed to me, they only got two out of four same number SHIM, if I take my bike today they will charge me for 2 SHIM change because the other SHIM they got don't match the number, So he didn't change those.

                Now is this true or just another way of cheating ?

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                Another que, if those 4 SHIM got change into new, How many KM's can be clocked without facing this issue again?



                yes thats the shim and it comes in 68 diffrent measurements as per the wear and tear in individual machine..

                not necessarily 4 needs to be changed.. sometimes just 2 does the job...


                THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS.. are they qualified enough to identify the correct size nd get the exact one needed...


                as per company norms .. 25k is what shims should last... before they go out of max clearance for inlet/exhaust valves...
                "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                RX-100 1995 - Current
                CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                Activa 2004 - Current
                CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                  yes thats the shim and it comes in 68 diffrent measurements as per the wear and tear in individual machine..

                  not necessarily 4 needs to be changed.. sometimes just 2 does the job...


                  THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS.. are they qualified enough to identify the correct size nd get the exact one needed...


                  as per company norms .. 25k is what shims should last... before they go out of max clearance for inlet/exhaust valves...

                  Thanks a lot theironhorse99 and Respected Sir for confirming this & clearing my doubts......Before reading this post and message I'm so depressed about my bike & SVC.


                  theironhorse99 Yes,you are right,

                  SVC mech told me when I was there today that 1 SHIM is totally gone out of 4, but he go ahead and able to change two with new one as the number match & other two are the same old from my bike due to lack of matching SHIM. According to him those are fine but he didn't satisfy himself for his work due to not able to replace all 4. He can deliver the bike if I want, but he want to perfection at my bike. So he want me to provide a little more time (if I agree) to do the complete job.

                  Then I asked why you put all those back,he replied he won't mind if he need to dis-assemble all again with smiling face. Now I don't know what is this ? Is he so honest or pro cheater ? Though I thought the later one....

                  As my bike ready to deliver, he start the engine and demonstrate the Engine sound - There is significant amount of improvement.

                  Earlier the loose metal tapet noise there at after 2.5k-4.5k RPM
                  now it is there only after 3.5k-4k RPM in faint way.

                  So for the time being I leave the my bike @ SVC by stating, I will not going to pay the same labour charge for this again to replace other two.

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                  25k kms ......mine (1st gen model) start at 7.5k kms as I remember, Why so late ? during that time no Honda SVC in this part of India even bother to talk about CBR's SHIM problem due to lack of parts/mechanic. After that I'm little bit occupied to do even regular servicing of my bike let alone ride.



                  As a result 2 year = 13k KMS.

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                  Is it possible this SHIM issue / tappet noise crop up so early due to not riding fast for my bike or not revving high ? my usage last whole year was In & Out from the City with Crawling speed at B2B trafic.
                  Last edited by Neel08; 07-04-2013, 09:44 PM.

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    hey guys i have few doubts regarding cbr .i am using pulsar 220 that i use for weekened riding where it performs very good. Infact it works beter than my expectection. So i liked cbr from beging for its stability but at current market where ktm and ninjas showing their domination is cbr 250 worth buying. My cousin is also interested in riding with me so cbr is a good option as cbr 250 is expensive from others. I have to guide him i like cbr but it would be good decision as we only ride on highways.
                    Last edited by ronitgandhi24; 07-05-2013, 09:21 AM.

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Neel08 View Post
                      Thanks a lot theironhorse99 and Respected Sir for confirming this & clearing my doubts......Before reading this post and message I'm so depressed about my bike & SVC.


                      theironhorse99 Yes,you are right,

                      SVC mech told me when I was there today that 1 SHIM is totally gone out of 4, but he go ahead and able to change two with new one as the number match & other two are the same old from my bike due to lack of matching SHIM. According to him those are fine but he didn't satisfy himself for his work due to not able to replace all 4. He can deliver the bike if I want, but he want to perfection at my bike. So he want me to provide a little more time (if I agree) to do the complete job.

                      Then I asked why you put all those back,he replied he won't mind if he need to dis-assemble all again with smiling face. Now I don't know what is this ? Is he so honest or pro cheater ? Though I thought the later one....

                      As my bike ready to deliver, he start the engine and demonstrate the Engine sound - There is significant amount of improvement.

                      Earlier the loose metal tapet noise there at after 2.5k-4.5k RPM
                      now it is there only after 3.5k-4k RPM in faint way.

                      So for the time being I leave the my bike @ SVC by stating, I will not going to pay the same labour charge for this again to replace other two.

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                      25k kms ......mine (1st gen model) start at 7.5k kms as I remember, Why so late ? during that time no Honda SVC in this part of India even bother to talk about CBR's SHIM problem due to lack of parts/mechanic. After that I'm little bit occupied to do even regular servicing of my bike let alone ride.



                      As a result 2 year = 13k KMS.

                      -------------

                      Is it possible this SHIM issue / tappet noise crop up so early due to not riding fast for my bike or not revving high ? my usage last whole year was In & Out from the City with Crawling speed at B2B trafic.
                      Hi Neel,

                      Hoping that you are from Kolkata would like to know which service centre you are visiting. I could help you in ensuring that you get the best possible service in Kolkata. Contact me.
                      [email protected]

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        hey guys i have few doubts regarding cbr .i am using pulsar 220 that i use for weekened riding where it performs very good. Infact it works beter than my expectection. So i liked cbr from beging for its stability but at current market where ktm and ninjas showing their domination is cbr 250 worth buying. My cousin is also interested in riding with me so cbr is a good option as cbr 250 is expensive from others. I have to guide him i like cbr but it would be good decision as we only ride on highways.

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by pranjal chakraborty View Post
                          Hi Neel,

                          Hoping that you are from Kolkata would like to know which service centre you are visiting. I could help you in ensuring that you get the best possible service in Kolkata. Contact me.
                          Hi, Pranjal

                          I'm from North 24 Parganas, not proper Kolkata & I'm visiting as well bike bought from 'Shiva Wheels Honda' which situated at Kamarhati (Roth Tola More,Belghoria) near/after Dunlop crossing if coming from Shyambazer , which is very convenient for me to visit regardless of time (anytime of the day)....No One way or nothing like proper Kolkata.

                          Location is the one & only reason I stick with this SVC, nothing else.
                          Last edited by Neel08; 07-05-2013, 11:50 AM.

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by ronitgandhi24 View Post
                            hey guys i have few doubts regarding cbr .i am using pulsar 220 that i use for weekened riding where it performs very good. Infact it works beter than my expectection. So i liked cbr from beging for its stability but at current market where ktm and ninjas showing their domination is cbr 250 worth buying. My cousin is also interested in riding with me so cbr is a good option as cbr 250 is expensive from others. I have to guide him i like cbr but it would be good decision as we only ride on highways.
                            CBR is a good choice. Finally, selection depends upon what you want to do. CBR with its fairings and windshield is made for highway riding. I too had this final dilemma with N650 and CBR as I was considering a nice machine for highway riding and occasional commute. Finally, decided on CBR, based on current road network/condition, physique and riding habits. Now N300 is also available to consider. CBR is not expensive compared to what it offers, you will realize it after riding it on the highway at cursing speeds and you will surely notice and admire its wind protection, stability apart from its presence and assurance. It may appear expensive to other commuters when compared on paper. It is not as expensive as other bikes in its class. Though I bought it for fun rides, I always feel blessed whenever I take it for commute too!. All the best for your search!.
                            ~shifting at 6K RPM

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              thanks kpvision i think i got my answer. Is their chances of repsol edition coming soon.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by ronitgandhi24 View Post
                                thanks kpvision i think i got my answer. Is their chances of repsol edition coming soon.
                                I think it is already available. I would have gone for it, if it was available and felt like a moto3 GP rider, riding for legendary HRC . Instead I bought black ABS version.
                                ~shifting at 6K RPM

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