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  • Remove the break pads and rub them against each other, or rub the pads with sand paper and your good to go.
    If its not much sound, just spray water with moderate force on the pads, will be just fine.

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    Originally posted by alurysharad2008 View Post
    hi friends,

    Can anyone tell he how to remove sound from front discs. that is normal noise which is there when sand gets in the front pads.
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    • Master cylinder got changed as honda recalled ..the feel of front brake remains as it was but I am damn sure stopping power increased by good amount didn't tried braking at triples but from arround 80 85 kmph observed significant reduction of stopping distance(tried only front braking and 70 front 30 rear braking) ..change is noticable..
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      • Rode to Sriperumbudur yesterday. Reached 132 kmph on a straight, then ran into traffic. Average speed was around 90. I tend to cruise at around 80-90 in 6th. Is this a bad habit?

        I lubed the chain at 372 kms. HP 90 gear oil. Cleaned it, then oiled it lightly.

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        • Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
          CBR would not accelarate like P220 but yes it urges you to ride around 80 - 100 kmph regularly. Can continuously do 120 without any stress.
          Hey Sid, just want to clarify. Referring to the above line, you mean to say P220 has better acceleration than CBR250R or the other way round..?



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          • Thanks to Jay and Sid, I'm getting inclined towards ABS version and doing some ABS vs STD comparisons, I came to a post on Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums, it said ''All ABS systems have brake release problems when going over bumps. If a bump makes the rear tire lift just a bit the computer thinks it's lifting (stoppie) and releases the brakes in the name of stability"

            Is this true?

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            • Cbr250 doesn't have a complete electronic abs unit like in apache180 with independent sensor on each wheel giving signal to HECU. What it has is C-ABS. It works like the combined brakes works on newer Activa with little difference. Up front, a three-piston caliper bites a 296mm disc (the non-ABS bike has a two-pot clamp). Two of the three pistons move in concert with the front brake lever, while the other receives its orders from the foot pedal through a mechanical delay valve. In this way, the brakes are linked rear-to-front only, which is similar to the VFR1200F setup. A lightweight ABS modulator (with integrated electronic control module) intercepts brake-line pressure to keep both wheels rolling. If you want to lock front wheel, you can do it, its independent, but you can't lock the rear, as applying pressure on rear also applies pressure on front wheel through that additional piston.Apache has a complete Abs unit with Rear wheel lift protection. While you can do stoppie on cbr250, it can't be done on apache180 with ABS ON(it has an option to switch off ABS).

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              • Okay, I'm getting a bit confused on this.. So you are saying that it works only when press rear brake, or rear and front together?

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                • Originally posted by Jay Kumar Azad View Post
                  Cbr250 doesn't have a complete electronic abs unit like in apache180 with independent sensor on each wheel giving signal to HECU. What it has is C-ABS. It works like the combined brakes works on newer Activa with little difference. Up front, a three-piston caliper bites a 296mm disc (the non-ABS bike has a two-pot clamp). Two of the three pistons move in concert with the front brake lever, while the other receives its orders from the foot pedal through a mechanical delay valve. In this way, the brakes are linked rear-to-front only, which is similar to the VFR1200F setup. A lightweight ABS modulator (with integrated electronic control module) intercepts brake-line pressure to keep both wheels rolling. If you want to lock front wheel, you can do it, its independent, but you can't lock the rear, as applying pressure on rear also applies pressure on front wheel through that additional piston.Apache has a complete Abs unit with Rear wheel lift protection. While you can do stoppie on cbr250, it can't be done on apache180 with ABS ON(it has an option to switch off ABS).
                  Dear Jay, you cannot lock the front wheel in the CBR 250R ABS model. How the brakes work in the ABS model has been discussed at length in this thread.

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                  • Originally posted by abhi_25690 View Post
                    Okay, I'm getting a bit confused on this.. So you are saying that it works only when press rear brake, or rear and front together?
                    Dear Abhi, the ABS works in three senarios, firstly only if you use the front brake lever, secondly if you use only the foot pedal and thirdly if you use both the front lever and the foot pedal. The ABS is very effictive, during the teast drive I tried it over water, gravel & paver blocks it works flawlessly in all the mentioned conditions.
                    Read the page "Combined ABS" in your users manual it will give you the correct picture.

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                    • Originally posted by abhi_25690 View Post
                      Thanks to Jay and Sid, I'm getting inclined towards ABS version and doing some ABS vs STD comparisons, I came to a post on Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums, it said ''All ABS systems have brake release problems when going over bumps. If a bump makes the rear tire lift just a bit the computer thinks it's lifting (stoppie) and releases the brakes in the name of stability"

                      Is this true?
                      1. Good to hear that you are inclined towards ABS version. Trust me its worth every extra penny.
                      2. First of all I want to know if you have any experience riding/driving any ABS equipped vehicle?
                      3. [Assuming you don't have any exp] When we say "brake release" it doesn't mean that the brakes stop working. It means that there will be repulsive force on the brakes. So say if you press brakes hard on loose gravel, you would feel a force on the brakes against pressing the brakes. And that releases the brakes for a very short time ( in milliseconds ). If you have the brakes pressed, the brakes would again apply.
                      This will result in simultaneous pressing and releasing of brakes. Thus the tires will not skid and you will get a more effective braking.
                      4. Regarding Stoppie :: No, you cannot do stoppie on ABS. As you won't be able to lock you wheels. But you may do Rolling stoppie as it doesn't need locking of wheels.
                      5. Regarding going over Bumps :: Yes, ABS system does release brakes when you go over bumps (as the wheel would completely stop when brakes are applied). BUT this would be for say 10-15 milliseconds or even less than that. And wouldn't affect your braking potential. So don't worry about it.
                      6. Get a test ride of ABS CBR250R so that you get better confidence.
                      7. Another positive point w.r.t ABS is that your stopping power in ABS would be better than STD. Because, in ABS, the front brakes has 3 piston clipers where as in case of STD, the front has 2 piston clipers. Please GOOGLE for more info.

                      Originally posted by abhi_25690 View Post
                      Okay, I'm getting a bit confused on this.. So you are saying that it works only when press rear brake, or rear and front together?
                      Don't get confused, @NSENGG has explained it in very simple way. Please google and understand how Honda C-ABS works. there are a lot of videos on YOUTUBE as well.


                      Originally posted by Jay Kumar Azad View Post
                      Cbr250 doesn't have a complete electronic abs unit like in apache180 ...... If you want to lock front wheel, you can do it, its independent, .... While you can do stoppie on cbr250, ...
                      No you cannot lock the front wheel. ABS works on both front and rear brakes combined as well as independently.
                      A Stoppie cannot be done on CBR250R - ABS but a rolling stoppie can be done as it doesn't required locking of wheels.



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                      • Originally posted by BAMBI143 View Post
                        Master cylinder got changed as honda recalled ..the feel of front brake remains as it was but I am damn sure stopping power increased by good amount didn't tried braking at triples but from arround 80 85 kmph observed significant reduction of stopping distance(tried only front braking and 70 front 30 rear braking) ..change is noticable..
                        I also got my master cylinder replaced a few days back. Have to admit the front brake response has increased a lot. Feels more confident than ever.

                        Originally posted by Jay Tanwar View Post
                        Hey Sid, just want to clarify. Referring to the above line, you mean to say P220 has better acceleration than CBR250R or the other way round..?
                        Hi Jay, I wrote what I felt. I found P220 has the raw power and accelaration but lacks the smooth power delivery that CBR has. Clocking 120km/hr on CBR is a piece of cake. Others may differ , I just mentioned my experience.
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                        • Hi Guys....
                          I need your advice on CBR.. Last week i had booked CBR 150R in chennai. delivery time is one month. i shared this to my friends and few of them suggested me to go for CBR 250R.
                          i am aware of all the pros and cons about CBR 150R. my budget was around 1 lakh. after seeing CBR 150R i could not control myself. decided to go for it. CBR 250r costs 30000 higher than 150r. so i feel still i can somehow manage. i am not aware of the CBR 250R pros and cons. i am not so good in analysing bikes. presently i ride passion plus. my requirement is stylish bike, with average fuel efficiency, value for money and for long term use (atleast for 10 years).. i can cancel that booking or change the model any time.. so there is no issue on this.. i am really very much confused... please do advice me on this ...
                          Last edited by Alwin Raj; 12-28-2012, 01:44 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Alwin Raj View Post
                            Hi Guys....
                            I need your advice on CBR.. Last week i had booked CBR 150R in chennai. delivery time is one month. i shared this to my friends and few of them suggested me to go for CBR 250R.
                            i am aware of all the pros and cons about CBR 150R. my budget was around 1 lakh. after seeing CBR 150R i could not control myself. decided to go for it. CBR 250r costs 30000 higher than 150r. so i feel still i can somehow manage. i am not aware of the CBR 250R pros and cons. i am not so good in analysing bikes. presently i ride passion plus. my requirement is stylish bike, with average fuel efficiency, value for money and for long term use (atleast for 10 years).. i can cancel that booking or change the model any time.. so there is no issue on this.. i am really very much confused... please do advice me on this ...

                            cbr250r is defnitely stylish however it does not have the average fuel efficiency. i am not sure about the fuel consumption of the 150r but 250 will be 33 kmpl.
                            if you can live with that its definitely worth all the money you put into it. also the maintenence cost will be on a higher side. eversy service that is 6k km

                            you will have to spend for the servicing and 1600 odd for brake pads for non-abs.

                            so do not only think about the initial investment. also keep in mind the higher running cost.
                            although if you plan for the 150R i would suggest to go for duke rather..

                            150R is not so stylish.. personal opinion.. just not able to digest the colour combos. dont find them classy..


                            if you want a stylish bike with average fuel efficiency and VFM around a lakh.. the best bet is 200NS...
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                              • Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
                                Hi Jay, I wrote what I felt. I found P220 has the raw power and accelaration but lacks the smooth power delivery that CBR has. Clocking 120km/hr on CBR is a piece of cake. Others may differ , I just mentioned my experience.
                                Dude, do you have any riding experience with P220?
                                One of my friend has a new (4 mnth old) P220. He also used to talk about the raw power of P220. Once he laid hands on my blade's throttle and from that day he doesn't like P220's power.. .

                                So I think the raw power of P220 really mattered when other bikes were having way less BHP (closest karizma with 17.6 vs 21 of P220) and torque. But when compared to CBR250R it doesn't stand a chance.. .
                                May be seniors can put a better light as I don't have much exp with P220.

                                Originally posted by Alwin Raj View Post
                                Hi Guys....
                                I need your advice on CBR.. Last week i had booked CBR 150R in chennai. delivery time is one month. i shared this to my friends and few of them suggested me to go for CBR 250R.
                                i am aware of all the pros and cons about CBR 150R. my budget was around 1 lakh. after seeing CBR 150R i could not control myself. decided to go for it. CBR 250r costs 30000 higher than 150r. so i feel still i can somehow manage. i am not aware of the CBR 250R pros and cons. i am not so good in analysing bikes. presently i ride passion plus. my requirement is stylish bike, with average fuel efficiency, value for money and for long term use (atleast for 10 years).. i can cancel that booking or change the model any time.. so there is no issue on this.. i am really very much confused... please do advice me on this ...
                                1. OR you put 60k and you can get CBR250R ABS.. .
                                2. Dude CBR250 and CBR150 are made for different segments.
                                150 is more of a sports bike vs 250 is more of a relaxed touring bike.

                                To be frank, 250R cannot be compared to 150R. So I won't be comparing them. But to put some light based on the criteria mentioned in your post::
                                Stylish Bike :: 250R is any day more stylish than 150R.
                                Fuel Efficiency :: Depends on your riding style. But to put figures, 250R(25kmpl to 35/40kmpl) and 150R(30kmpl to 50/55kmpl).
                                Value for Money ::
                                CBR250R - Definitely VFM as other 250CC bikes are almost twice its price.
                                CBR150R - Not exactly VFM as other 150cc bikes (r15) are at almost same price and with better features and style.
                                Long Term use :: Completely depends on the owner. .

                                Regarding Pros and Cons:
                                I'll be comparing it with Ninja. But again this is also not a good comparison as ninja250 and CBR250R again belong to different segment.
                                Pros:
                                1. ITS HONDA.
                                2. Good Looks. (subjective but any day better than almost all other below 250cc bikes)
                                3. Big Bike Feel.
                                4. Good power and torque.
                                5. Awesome stability. I do awefull ( I shouldn't be posting this point on xBHP ) cuts at 100-120 kmph speed and blade remains completely stable.
                                6. Although the bike is BIG, its amazingly agile. Agility can be compared to that of Apache RTR. That means you can easily cut through the traffic.
                                7. Hi-Tech. There are so many sensors in the bike.
                                8. Fuel injected.
                                9. Lower Maintenance (Comparing to other 250cc bikes).
                                10. ABS (Optional but a BIG advantage. Putting it last as mostly you won't be opting it).
                                11. Any we can add many more.. Lets hope other owners add more.

                                Cons:
                                1. Single cylinder. (Actually I believe its good, because if this was twin engine, the price would be higher.)
                                2. No Side Stand warning.
                                3. People complain about brakes not good But I think its good enough.
                                4. People also complain about HORN sound. (I think its good enough.)
                                5. 2011 CBRs has inferior parts issue. But 2012 is good.
                                6. My apologies, but I think its perfect for its kind and price.



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