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  • Re: problems with my cbr250r

    Originally posted by Manan View Post
    Well to repair the bends you can take a juggad method of taking a tooth brush some colgate white paste and try pushing them back into shape.

    Manan
    Toothpaste part I thought was for cleaning. Btw, my opinion is that for that damage seen in picture, leave it as it is - looks like it is better not to touch it as they are already touching neighboring fins. This surgery of working to make the fins right (back breaking of course!) may work OK when you have small bends in few bent fins.
    ~shifting at 6K RPM

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    • Re: problems with my cbr250r

      Originally posted by kpvision View Post
      Toothpaste part I thought was for cleaning. Btw, my opinion is that for that damage seen in picture, leave it as it is - looks like it is better not to touch it as they are already touching neighboring fins. This surgery of working to make the fins right (back breaking of course!) may work OK when you have small bends in few bent fins.
      Well yes, while cleaning the bike if you use a firm tooth brush you can push the fins back into shape, although it would not be the original shape you can atleast make the fins parallel to the horizontal ones.

      Manan.

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      Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
      What kinda bends are we talking about here?? and can you explain the process more in detail
      The bends in the fins of the radiator around the coolant carrying horizontal ones, the delicate ones.

      Manan

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      • Re: problems with my cbr250r

        Originally posted by Manan View Post
        Well yes, while cleaning the bike if you use a firm tooth brush you can push the fins back into shape, although it would not be the original shape you can atleast make the fins parallel to the horizontal ones.

        Manan.

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        The bends in the fins of the radiator around the coolant carrying horizontal ones, the delicate ones.

        Manan
        I have seen the AC guys do the same thing.. except they never used tooth paste..

        Can you tell me why are you using the toothpaste?? will be effective in cleaning the Oil cooling Radiator too??? I mean like the ones that come in the ZMR/P220/Avenger 220
        Splendor - 2k to 2006
        Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
        P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
        Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
        ZMR - 2010 to Forever
        RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
        Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
        RayZ - 2015 til now
        Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


        Delhi to Narkanda
        Delhi to Coimbatore
        Delhi to Nepal

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        • Re: problems with my cbr250r

          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
          I have seen the AC guys do the same thing.. except they never used tooth paste..

          Can you tell me why are you using the toothpaste?? will be effective in cleaning the Oil cooling Radiator too??? I mean like the ones that come in the ZMR/P220/Avenger 220
          Well tooth paste because of it's cleansing properties and the fact that it is closely associated with the tooth brush. Also it is needs less effort to get it to foam, which in my opinion in a delicate area like the radiator too much pressure would be detrimental to the radiator.

          With regards to the oil cooled radiators, I think the same would apply because in principle the physical construction of the radiators are similar, except for the liquid that is flowing through it, so yes this method can work. However best to my knowledge the three models you mentioned have radiator guards over the radiator, correct?

          Manan.

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          • Re: problems with my cbr250r

            Originally posted by Manan View Post
            Well tooth paste because of it's cleansing properties and the fact that it is closely associated with the tooth brush. Also it is needs less effort to get it to foam, which in my opinion in a delicate area like the radiator too much pressure would be detrimental to the radiator.

            With regards to the oil cooled radiators, I think the same would apply because in principle the physical construction of the radiators are similar, except for the liquid that is flowing through it, so yes this method can work. However best to my knowledge the three models you mentioned have radiator guards over the radiator, correct?

            Manan.
            You are right about the P220 and the Avenger 220.. but the ZMR doesn't have a radiator guard.. i found the fins a little bent and needs cleaning as it has been raining heavily up here in north and i was riding on the mud.. don't wnna take risk giving it to the mechanics who know nothing but to say ye wala karab hei.. naya wala dailo.. sorry about my bad hindi
            Splendor - 2k to 2006
            Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
            P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
            Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
            ZMR - 2010 to Forever
            RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
            Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
            RayZ - 2015 til now
            Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


            Delhi to Narkanda
            Delhi to Coimbatore
            Delhi to Nepal

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            • Re: problems with my cbr250r

              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
              You are right about the P220 and the Avenger 220.. but the ZMR doesn't have a radiator guard.. i found the fins a little bent and needs cleaning as it has been raining heavily up here in north and i was riding on the mud.. don't wnna take risk giving it to the mechanics who know nothing but to say ye wala karab hei.. naya wala dailo.. sorry about my bad hindi
              Well mechanics are well mechanics. How is the ZMR treating you?

              Manan.

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              • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                Originally posted by Manan View Post
                Well mechanics are well mechanics. How is the ZMR treating you?

                Manan.
                The ride is just perfect for the Indian road conditions.. not too powerful and under powered as well.. I am more of a tourer.. so I am pretty happy with the performance.. Can't compare with the CBR250 but in future I will think about the CBR400 or the Ninja 300
                Splendor - 2k to 2006
                Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                RayZ - 2015 til now
                Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                Delhi to Narkanda
                Delhi to Coimbatore
                Delhi to Nepal

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                • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                  Originally posted by speedyking View Post
                  Hey guys i am shocked to see the mileage i got this time. i got 48kmpl. i always used to get 25 / 26 kmpl (max) and 16kmpl min.
                  48 is awesome to be true but yeah once I got 44 max...

                  However honda quotes 49.5 kmpl max at 60 kmph..

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                  "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                  RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                  RX-100 1995 - Current
                  CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                  Activa 2004 - Current
                  CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                  Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                  • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                    Originally posted by Avenger88 View Post
                    No problem if the fins are bent. The temp. indicator on the dash should not rise more than THREE bars.
                    The Kich Kich sound more like sound of ladies anklets..... They do appear on CBR's after a long use.
                    How long depends on the type of riding.
                    What I mean to say is, if you redline the engine very often the sound will creep in very early, else after a long time.
                    Nothing to worry though... Just goto SVC and tell them to check the shims and the valve clearance. Also tell them to give you the readings.

                    They might try to wriggle out of this, but stay firm and get it done. As taking the readings is not an easy task.
                    Most of the times SVC wont do anything they would simply give back the bike and give you readings which are acceptable or within the range that is mentioned in their books.
                    So stay there and watch them do it. When they are taking the readings go there and see it for yourself.

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                    hmmm... I advice extreme caution before you do this:

                    When riding take both your hands of the handle bar, and check if the bike severs to any one direction. If yes there is misalignment else dont worry.
                    If there is misalignment contact HONDA immediately ... The SVC first and also write an email to honda
                    Thanks Buddy . Can u plz give the values of valve clearance ??

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                    Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                    48 is awesome to be true but yeah once I got 44 max...

                    However honda quotes 49.5 kmpl max at 60 kmph..

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                    OH MY G......... so u have not exceeded 60kmph in all gears to get that mileage ??
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                    • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                      Originally posted by Sandeep Patnala View Post
                      OH MY G......... so u have not exceeded 60kmph in all gears to get that mileage ??

                      That was just a test run to juice out. . Normal now at 34-36 kmpl


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                      • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                        Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                        48 is awesome to be true but yeah once I got 44 max...

                        However honda quotes 49.5 kmpl max at 60 kmph..

                        Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
                        [MENTION=21789]The[/MENTION] ironhorse. Excellent observation there. I too had been foxed by this insane FE once.

                        IMHO, the most comfortable, long distance speed for bike and rider on the CBR is actually about 80 to 84 kmph. There is absolutely no strain on the engine - neither lugging nor over-revving. The aural harmonics seem to coalesce at this range to a steady confidence-inducing thrum. A little higher to 90 is also ok. The wind factor is tolerable.

                        For me, one vital significance was the huge reduction in overall concentration levels from those needed at 120 or so to those needed at 80 to 90. At 120, I am constantly on my toes, scanning, scanning, predicating the insanity gradients for other occupants of the highway. Really exhausting after about one hour. But at 90, time does not seem so compressed and I am mighty comfy with the suicidal cyclists, autocratic autos, crazy cars and coked-up truckers.

                        I ride by the published torque figures and try to keep the RsPM at a max of 80 to 90% of the figure. I have marked, in red, a capital "T" in bold for the given RPM and a capital "P" for the given power on the instrument panel itself so that I never inadvertently strain the engine. Works for me.

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                        • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                          Originally posted by Sandeep Patnala View Post
                          OH MY G......... so u have not exceeded 60kmph in all gears to get that mileage ??

                          I Did exceed 60kmph... infact i was hovering in 80's bu that's it... few occasional blasts uptil 130ish.. bu most of the times in 75-85.. and it gave 44 kmpl maybe a lil more to be true.
                          but that's just on highway not in city use.. with the most sane riding combined with the traffic in hyd the max is 35-36..

                          Originally posted by icemang View Post
                          @The ironhorse. Excellent observation there. I too had been foxed by this insane FE once.

                          IMHO, the most comfortable, long distance speed for bike and rider on the CBR is actually about 80 to 84 kmph. There is absolutely no strain on the engine - neither lugging nor over-revving. The aural harmonics seem to coalesce at this range to a steady confidence-inducing thrum. A little higher to 90 is also ok. The wind factor is tolerable.

                          For me, one vital significance was the huge reduction in overall concentration levels from those needed at 120 or so to those needed at 80 to 90. At 120, I am constantly on my toes, scanning, scanning, predicating the insanity gradients for other occupants of the highway. Really exhausting after about one hour. But at 90, time does not seem so compressed and I am mighty comfy with the suicidal cyclists, autocratic autos, crazy cars and coked-up truckers.

                          I ride by the published torque figures and try to keep the RsPM at a max of 80 to 90% of the figure. I have marked, in red, a capital "T" in bold for the given RPM and a capital "P" for the given power on the instrument panel itself so that I never inadvertently strain the engine. Works for me.

                          cannot agree more... 80's is best to enjoy..i can happily cruise and enjoy the scenery and always be in the green ( safe zone) of panic breaking.. less concentration and more enjoyment..
                          no strain on engine or either eyes and legs.. infact brain too seems to be happy..

                          doing 120ish all day.. tires the brain too for quick reflex actions.. vibes that tire the body soon and lot of panic unwanted situation.. occasionaly touch 100's and back to 80's..



                          also on a safety note.. riding all day in 120's gets the brain adjusted to tht speed in sometime and it starts feeling normal however the major problem occurs with people is brain starts mis judging the braking distance as we gradually slow down to 80's brain actually makes you feel that you are on 40's and you tend to believe that the bike will stop in the short distance available ahead.. but practically that dosent happen... and we all know the end result out of it..


                          so before you head to highway.. find a empty stretch.. always make sure you touch diffrent speeds like 80 , 100 , 120 and then brake to the limit to find the minimum distance needed to stop with your riding habit.. keep a visual idea of it.. you'd never end up in mess..
                          "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                          RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                          RX-100 1995 - Current
                          CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                          Activa 2004 - Current
                          CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                          Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                          • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                            Originally posted by icemang View Post
                            @The ironhorse. Excellent observation there. I too had been foxed by this insane FE once.

                            IMHO, the most comfortable, long distance speed for bike and rider on the CBR is actually about 80 to 84 kmph. There is absolutely no strain on the engine - neither lugging nor over-revving. The aural harmonics seem to coalesce at this range to a steady confidence-inducing thrum. A little higher to 90 is also ok. The wind factor is tolerable.

                            For me, one vital significance was the huge reduction in overall concentration levels from those needed at 120 or so to those needed at 80 to 90. At 120, I am constantly on my toes, scanning, scanning, predicating the insanity gradients for other occupants of the highway. Really exhausting after about one hour. But at 90, time does not seem so compressed and I am mighty comfy with the suicidal cyclists, autocratic autos, crazy cars and coked-up truckers.

                            I ride by the published torque figures and try to keep the RsPM at a max of 80 to 90% of the figure. I have marked, in red, a capital "T" in bold for the given RPM and a capital "P" for the given power on the instrument panel itself so that I never inadvertently strain the engine. Works for me.
                            Nice. I get FE of about 30 kmpl + variable about 10% kmpl. Calculated for Bangalore conditions. I too feel very comfy at 80kmph and use it. Of course max speed is limited by road/traffic condition and sense of safety.

                            For shifting, I shift at 6K RPM (at least for lower gears). Now, though I rely on my sit bone meter to know the RPM, I do acknowledge the cockpit just to admire the beauty often .
                            Initially I was shifting at 4.5KRPM and it was no upgrade from Suzuki Fiero for me. As per dyno, party starts on CBR after 5.5K till 7.5KRPM.
                            When I ride out after waiting for a minute on idle, causing a frown and comment by wife why I create this noise by shifting bit late. I tell her, this is a different horse.
                            As I shift to second and fade out from the view, I laugh imagining what it would be when I change the stock to akra?

                            By the way, saw that after stopping in a signal, even with hot engine, doing a kill and start sequence still makes RPM to do the 2K to 1.5K ritual.
                            To make the bike ready with 1.5K level sooner, I just rev it a tiny bit in idle and the bike comes down to 1.5K immediately from 2K. So, I am ready as soon as I start the engine after a traffic light stop.
                            ~shifting at 6K RPM

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                            • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                              Originally posted by kpvision View Post

                              By the way, saw that after stopping in a signal, even with hot engine, doing a kill and start sequence still makes RPM to do the 2K to 1.5K ritual.
                              To make the bike ready with 1.5K level sooner, I just rev it a tiny bit in idle and the bike comes down to 1.5K immediately from 2K. So, I am ready as soon as I start the engine after a traffic light stop.

                              yes the ride engages auto choke every time you restart however the ECU does not need setting in. YES.. just a feather touch to throttle for a millisecond gets it back to 1.5k.. ready to vroom.. just for fun.. open the front seat and take the filter cover off ( just the rectangular plate) put the seat back in.. ride for a few days....... enjoy the sonic boom between 4k-7k... and that extra bit of torque...

                              with a snug fit lid.. enjoy the mechanical subwoofer.. then imagine what an FFE could do to it..

                              try it..
                              "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                              RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                              RX-100 1995 - Current
                              CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                              Activa 2004 - Current
                              CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                              Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                              • Re: problems with my cbr250r

                                2013 colors are now available according to HMSI website. For those interested please head there click on the CBR250R section and go to the price menu to see the colors listed and price too.
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