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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    My CBR's 1st servicing on its way. Wanted to know if the servicing is really free as it says FREE SERVICING or I will have to pay for something ?

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      Originally posted by hypheni View Post
      My CBR's 1st servicing on its way. Wanted to know if the servicing is really free as it says FREE SERVICING or I will have to pay for something ?
      Labour and washing is free. Material/Consumables/oil etc. would have to be paid for.
      Always assume the other guy will mess up - Ride Defensively!

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        So how much it will be ?

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by hypheni View Post
          So how much it will be ?
          504 INR/liter Honda throttle full synthetic you'll require 1.6lit..284 INR oil filter that should be it.. And they may charge for chain cleaning and it's svc dependent..

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by saikarthik View Post
            Please be clear, are you talking about the chain slider???

            If thats the case, don't worry.. It is to avoid the contact of chain to swing arm (frame) when there is slack. Take it to the nearest Honda ASC and get it replaced. Swing arm needs to be removed to reinstall the slider.

            did someone said swing arm needs to be removed to put a rubber part that can bend and twist... ??


            @ BAMBI.. the chain slider is connected by 2 rubbers notches to small ribbit like holes on the swingarm..

            jugaad : clean the swingarm and just tape it from the place where its new like.. as the chain does not rub through that part.. else glue it... use it for meanwhile
            whenever you go for servicing just get it changed... costs 112/- bucks including labour and the swing arm needed not be removed.. they will just remove the
            heel guard and left side foot rear assembly to make space to just make it to the place... as simple.. if you dont mind getting your hands greased it can be done without
            that as well..

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            Originally posted by icemang View Post
            @Divya Sharan. Magnificent! Yet (very small font size) the $ 64 million question goes unanswered - does the injector shut off? Arrey koi Honda key CBR engineer ko kidnap karke layo yaar
            Originally posted by saikarthik View Post
            Well am no expert, but the injectors will continue delivering fuel because when the TPS signal is zero, still you have the engine running & other inputs are fed into FI module/ECU..
            In that case TPS gives ECU Idle signal, but as per engine speed input it will be higher than idle rpm. So Ecu will choose the optimum fuel to be admitted from the Map. and keep firing the engine.

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            Well This might happen if your chain is too tight, ripping slider off the swing arm, better check it too bro, when replacing at ASC..


            For just Referance: If you have a service manual, It is illustrated on page 23, section 14 of the Service Manual.
            as far as my logical understanding goes.. the fuel will be supplied and never completely cut -off for the simple concept that just air wont keep the engine running.
            and the engine will cut out and die and you'd have to jumo start it else press clutch or get it in neutral and then slef start it while de-accelerating..


            question is while one is efficient.. putting the bike in neutral or deaacelrating in gear..


            simple concept.. i firmly believe that either ways the fuel comsumption will be same.. in FI as the throttle cable is back to original position the engine is still running
            giving minimum amount of fuel to sustain on idle.. the same way it will keep giving the same amount while de-accelerating even in gear and thrrole back to 0 position
            just to keep the engine running..


            unlike carbed engines.. where the air and fuel is pulled together .. while de-acceleration the engine is on higher rpm's than idle and is also sucking fuel along with air at a faster rate than that or idle...

            however safer part is.. let it be in gear.. ride safe. .running in neutral is a sure shot invitation to disaster..
            reasons :

            engine might just die and all other electricals connected to engine power are gone..
            if you suddenly change gear and leave clutch on lower gears you are prone to make the engine go blast from 0 - to crazy rpm's suddenly
            or even the tyres might loose traction causing skid...

            while in gear you can brake in shorter distance than that of the machine going in idle...
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              Originally posted by rockingrider View Post
              Guys, I just bagged a 1.5k on odo 2013 CBR250r from a friend of mine. It is awesome in all terms but the devil inside me is asking for more. I am used to riding all my bikes with a free flow exhaust and the absence the of it in the CBR is killing the fun. While browsing around I found this, CBR 250 R 2011-2013 GP Extreme [EX-00405] - $112.00. I am not sure how reliable this Dan Moto exhausts are but the finish seems pretty decent. Need your advice.
              Dan Moto is crap stay off it,also Yoshimura is very loud,I have been using an Akrapovic Carbon Fiber slip on with the db killer for last 1 & 1/2 year,has done many 500/600 kms trips without any drawbacks,it is really something but then it is quite out off your budget so will not recommend it.Do not buy something because it is cheap it wont help in the long run & installing anything other than CO provided accessory will void your warranty

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              Originally posted by wasim.wassu View Post
              hello guys,
              have anybody installed K&N filter on their CBR250r if so, is there any change in performance.
              please reply m planning to buy one.
              Have the KN2511 direct replacement air filter on my bike,not much difference is felt ,also the suction sound which everyone associates with KN airfilters is not there.Overall not very happy with it but then I had a free flow exhaust so bought this also to help better breathing.
              Last edited by Pruthviraj; 07-26-2013, 09:38 PM.

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                as far as my logical understanding goes.. the fuel will be supplied and never completely cut -off for the simple concept that just air wont keep the engine running.
                and the engine will cut out and die and you'd have to jumo start it else press clutch or get it in neutral and then slef start it while de-accelerating..


                question is while one is efficient.. putting the bike in neutral or deaacelrating in gear..


                simple concept.. i firmly believe that either ways the fuel comsumption will be same.. in FI as the throttle cable is back to original position the engine is still running
                giving minimum amount of fuel to sustain on idle.. the same way it will keep giving the same amount while de-accelerating even in gear and thrrole back to 0 position
                just to keep the engine running..


                unlike carbed engines.. where the air and fuel is pulled together .. while de-acceleration the engine is on higher rpm's than idle and is also sucking fuel along with air at a faster rate than that or idle...

                however safer part is.. let it be in gear.. ride safe. .running in neutral is a sure shot invitation to disaster..
                reasons :

                engine might just die and all other electricals connected to engine power are gone..
                if you suddenly change gear and leave clutch on lower gears you are prone to make the engine go blast from 0 - to crazy rpm's suddenly
                or even the tyres might loose traction causing skid...

                while in gear you can brake in shorter distance than that of the machine going in idle...
                Taking this discussion forward with the hope of not coming out as an arrogant moron, I'd happily swallow back my words if needed:

                I hope (Honda techies can confirm this) our FI employs this as well. -
                Source - Gas Pains: Mileage Myths and Misconceptions - Car Comparison - Feature Article - Page 3
                [MENTION=33779]icemang[/MENTION] sir, what do you think?
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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  @BAMBI143. Chain slider woes. I had faced the same issue last year, while riding from Rajkot to Ahmedabad for the G2G. There had been a dull thud and I had immediately stopped, to see the chain slider hanging below the swingarm. I was halfway between the two cities so elected to return to Rajkot. Initial during the return trip of about 125 kms, at about 65 kmph, the chain rubbed against the frontal part of the swing arm. Then I analysed that if I rode fast, the chain tension would lift the chain ABOVE the swing arm and reduce the instances when it would sag to cause friction.

                  I rode straight to the ASC, called up the workshop manager (a good friend by then) who in turn asked the security guard to open the shutters to allow me to park the bike inside (very, very nice of him).

                  Got a revealing insight into the chain material. It seems to be hardened steel as it had ground two parallel grooves into the swing arm. Very shallow, yet they were present. The workshop manager told me that the last 50 odd kms at 100 kph had prevented further damage by lifting the chain higher. To be on the safer side, he removed the swing arm and examined the damage. It was slight so did not warrant replacement.

                  The workshop did not have a spare so the CBR-trained mechanic (quick-witted chap) stuck the slider to the upper and lower surfaces of the swing arm with spots of super glue as the plastic studs mentioned by ironhorse had been torn off of their seats.

                  Till today, the bike is still with the original slider and no hassles.

                  I agree with theironhorse99 that the swing arm need not be removed to refit the chain slider.It is a stud-fit fixture. You may think of employing my method.

                  @theironhorse99. Exactly. If the injectors stop feeding fuel, the engine stops working under fuel, the spark shuts down, the ignition shuts down, all electrics shut down. I have not yet ridden or driven a vehicle in this condition where the gradient of the road/ rolling momentum of the vehicle is high enough to overcome the friction of the engine and the mass inertia and cause the wheels to turn a dead engine. Would be a revealing experiment to perform and is worth a try for the educative potential.

                  @Divya Sharan. In theory, it sounds perfectly logical. But in reality, will it happen? If it actually does, will it not cause what theironhorse99 and I have anticipated?

                  This issue is becoming a really ticklish one and needs somebody with hands-on knowledge of the CBR's FI system rather than the armchair pundits that we are. I personally doubt whether a person with such in-depth knowledge could be found in ASCs. The Honda HQ would definitely have such a knowledge base.
                  Last edited by icemang; 07-27-2013, 12:15 PM. Reason: Fat finger typing troubles!

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Thanks for all the replies.. as of now I'll glue it going to a mech..

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                      did someone said swing arm needs to be removed to put a rubber part that can bend and twist... ??


                      @ BAMBI.. the chain slider is connected by 2 rubbers notches to small ribbit like holes on the swingarm..

                      jugaad : clean the swingarm and just tape it from the place where its new like.. as the chain does not rub through that part.. else glue it... use it for meanwhile
                      whenever you go for servicing just get it changed... costs 112/- bucks including labour and the swing arm needed not be removed.. they will just remove the
                      heel guard and left side foot rear assembly to make space to just make it to the place... as simple.. if you dont mind getting your hands greased it can be done without
                      that as well..

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                      as far as my logical understanding goes.. the fuel will be supplied and never completely cut -off for the simple concept that just air wont keep the engine running.
                      and the engine will cut out and die and you'd have to jumo start it else press clutch or get it in neutral and then slef start it while de-accelerating..


                      question is while one is efficient.. putting the bike in neutral or deaacelrating in gear..


                      simple concept.. i firmly believe that either ways the fuel comsumption will be same.. in FI as the throttle cable is back to original position the engine is still running
                      giving minimum amount of fuel to sustain on idle.. the same way it will keep giving the same amount while de-accelerating even in gear and thrrole back to 0 position
                      just to keep the engine running..


                      unlike carbed engines.. where the air and fuel is pulled together .. while de-acceleration the engine is on higher rpm's than idle and is also sucking fuel along with air at a faster rate than that or idle...

                      however safer part is.. let it be in gear.. ride safe. .running in neutral is a sure shot invitation to disaster..
                      reasons :

                      engine might just die and all other electricals connected to engine power are gone..
                      if you suddenly change gear and leave clutch on lower gears you are prone to make the engine go blast from 0 - to crazy rpm's suddenly
                      or even the tyres might loose traction causing skid...

                      while in gear you can brake in shorter distance than that of the machine going in idle...

                      Ya Sorry my bad.. , Just saw the my slider yesterday.. I thought there was a bolt used for mounting as in some bikes..

                      And abt the FE part, Yes.. More or less it will consume same fuel as Idle, But bro if the speed of bike is greater the amount of fuel for each power stroke will be the same, but the number of strokes increase with engine speed.. so i think in this case based on slope (gradient) of the road, & in which gear you are in will purely determine fuel injected.

                      However as you said, keeping engine on & in gear is safer as speed will be controlled by engine breaking.. But now a days, all loads (electricals) are DC loads rather relying on ACG output.. so i guess if the ignition switch is on, then almost 95% of your electricals are functional.. Even the Headlamp, which is the major load on most of the bikes.

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                      Originally posted by saikarthik View Post
                      Hi guys,

                      Am Sai Karthik, I live in Gurgaon currently but from Chennai.. Ever since my 1st service on My CBR 250R, I had this tappet noise,
                      I have mentioned this problem in all my services till date (4th service), but no ASC is able to solve this (2 services in chennai - JSP, 2 services in Pear honda - gurgaon).. Eventually a Packer & mover screwed my engine while transit too.. My bike cries out around 4500-6500 rpm & performance & mileage is so poor.
                      Lost my patience now.. can anyone help???
                      After a long struggle, finally found a decent ASC with decent tech knowledged service guy in gurgaon.. Shims are replaced & There is significant difference in quality of bike overall, the sound, vibration & ofcourse performance..

                      Also changed brake pads woo.. never thought it would be 2000 bucks for them alone..
                      Last edited by saikarthik; 07-27-2013, 10:46 AM. Reason: Missed a part of explaination
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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Finally saw the actual situation.. The upper part of slider torn off no way to glue it.. Bought a new slider for 125inr from honda parts dealer.. Will get it fixed now from a gud local mech..

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                            Which ASC in gurgaon you found?

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Hello Friends !!
                              This thread is so informative...Thanks to everyone..
                              I need your opinion on something..

                              I am buying a used cbr 250r red color STD model

                              It has been used for less than 2 years (22 months) and has been ridden for 10000 km...

                              The seller offered it for a price of 1Lac ... it is scrathless but the color is a bit dull when compared to new ones..

                              can anyone tell me
                              1. is this a good deal?
                              2. does the bike give any problems after 10k km?
                              3. What are my initial bike conditioning costs? (teflon coating and all oils and other consumables)
                              4. What should i check before buying it ?
                              5. what should be the mileage? (i mean optimum mileage for a smoothly used cbr250r)

                              Thanks in advance...

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Just got mine which was ridden for 1600kms, 2013 march registration and painted to original Repsol edition using OEM paints for 1.21lac. I think you can negotiate more.

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