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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by ALI.R View Post
    Very odd this. Normally all new motorcycles have the oil filter changed during first service.
    They dont have the filter in stock, and don't want the customer to report them to Honda, so they cook up the bullshit story. Due to the engine being well built, the SVC are sure the bike won't show signs of abuse till out of warranty.

    Personally, I've run the bike 18k kms with the same oil filter vs the recommended 12k change interval, due to unavoidable circumstances. It's too early to find out any signs of engine damage; one of these days when I get hands on some excess ₹₹, I'll experiment with how long the CBR 250 engine can go with Honda Throttle 10w30 FS before destructing. I'm guessing around 15,000-20,000 kms.

    Before that, I got to order some engine parts, like bore and piston kit. Experts please chime in as to what other parts I may need to order for this experiment. TIA.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by leech View Post
      They dont have the filter in stock, and don't want the customer to report them to Honda, so they cook up the bullshit story. Due to the engine being well built, the SVC are sure the bike won't show signs of abuse till out of warranty.

      Personally, I've run the bike 18k kms with the same oil filter vs the recommended 12k change interval, due to unavoidable circumstances. It's too early to find out any signs of engine damage; one of these days when I get hands on some excess ₹₹, I'll experiment with how long the CBR 250 engine can go with Honda Throttle 10w30 FS before destructing. I'm guessing around 15,000-20,000 kms.

      Before that, I got to order some engine parts, like bore and piston kit. Experts please chime in as to what other parts I may need to order for this experiment. TIA.
      They usually don't have many things in stock for cbr250 models. I had to wait 2 days until I got my hands on new hand grip as my old one was messed up by somebody.
      Originally posted by ALI.R View Post
      Very odd this. Normally all new motorcycles have the oil filter changed during first service.
      Yes now I see that it is indeed odd. I'll get my oil filter changed in second servicing none the less.

      Thanks for the help.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by leech View Post
        They dont have the filter in stock, and don't want the customer to report them to Honda, so they cook up the bullshit story. Due to the engine being well built, the SVC are sure the bike won't show signs of abuse till out of warranty.

        Personally, I've run the bike 18k kms with the same oil filter vs the recommended 12k change interval, due to unavoidable circumstances. It's too early to find out any signs of engine damage; one of these days when I get hands on some excess ₹₹, I'll experiment with how long the CBR 250 engine can go with Honda Throttle 10w30 FS before destructing. I'm guessing around 15,000-20,000 kms.

        Before that, I got to order some engine parts, like bore and piston kit. Experts please chime in as to what other parts I may need to order for this experiment. TIA.
        Well sir i guess list would be very long and there might be a possibility that some parts may or may not get damaged due to this attempt. So the list would be like(just a guess):-

        Engine head
        -Camshafts
        -Rocker arms
        -Valves
        -Valve seals
        -Valve springs(if required/damaged)
        -Valve seats
        -Valve retainers(if required/damaged)
        -Shims
        -Cam chain

        Cylinder
        -Bore
        -Piston
        -Rings
        -Cam chain tensioner

        Lower engine
        -Crankshaft assembly(if required/damaged
        -Clutch assembly
        -Balancer(if required/damaged)
        -Engine bearings(if required/damaged)

        Other things
        -Air filter
        -Oil filter
        -Engine oil
        -Gasekets/packing
        -Coolant

        Sometimes because of much abuse, engine head(cylinder head) also gets damaged due to cracking of piston into pieces though.

        Experts please add on the parts which I have missed out.

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
          Can anybody help in this? Thank you.
          Pirellis are good, even Angel city is termed good for "city use"


          @All : Anyone installed front fender flap to stop slush going towards radiator, could not find any images even. Can NS's be installed in our bikes?
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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post


            @All : Anyone installed front fender flap to stop slush going towards radiator, could not find any images even. Can NS's be installed in our bikes?
            I am thinking of doing this. Have seen a video on YouTube in which the flap of duke is used.

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Here's the link to that video

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post
                Got the first service done of my cbr at My wings, kothrud, Pune. The work was done pretty quick I called them at 12 pm for tomorrow's appointment, they said you bring the bike today itself. So i went there at 1pm but it was there lunch break till 2pm. So I went and got my rest of the work in that area done and came back by 1.45pm. The work on bike was started by around 1.50-2 and was done by 2.45-3. Works done were oil change, both front and rear brake pads cleaning, coolent topup, chain lubrication. Was charged Rs. 2007.
                Oil filter was not changed. The technician said change it during 6k service.
                2000 for 1st service??? And they didn't even changed the oil filter? Make sure about the costs of the consumables because at Pashankar SVC (Paud Road) it cost me 1375 including oil filter change. (Lubricated the chain myself)

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by abhishek_pustake View Post
                  2000 for 1st service??? And they didn't even changed the oil filter? Make sure about the costs of the consumables because at Pashankar SVC (Paud Road) it cost me 1375 including oil filter change. (Lubricated the chain myself)
                  Almost Rs.600 are taxes.
                  They added brakes cleaning and chain lube extra each and I had to get some parts machin polished as during the delivery they didnt polish properly so went to My Wings. From next service most probably I'll be going to Yash Honda, Hadapsar. They have seperate area for CBR's.

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post
                    Almost Rs.600 are taxes.
                    They added brakes cleaning and chain lube extra each and I had to get some parts machin polished as during the delivery they didnt polish properly so went to My Wings. From next service most probably I'll be going to Yash Honda, Hadapsar. They have seperate area for CBR's.
                    600 can not be charged as tax under any circumstance if the amount is anywhere between 1k-2k. This means they have cheated on you. And what polish are you talking about? Teflon coating? If that is it then it is already added when you purchased your bike. 500 for 5 coatings.

                    Cheers.

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
                      600 can not be charged as tax under any circumstance if the amount is anywhere between 1k-2k. This means they have cheated on you. And what polish are you talking about? Teflon coating? If that is it then it is already added when you purchased your bike. 500 for 5 coatings.

                      Cheers.
                      Sorry my mistake.
                      Sorry those are the labour charges
                      1227 engine oil
                      36 consumable
                      199 chain lube
                      300 brake cleaning
                      Total 1.4k +600 labour

                      Rs 74 are the taxes.

                      When I saw the bike before booking some minor scratches where present. So before delivery they tried to polish those scratches but insted due to there shabby work the shine of those 3-4 patches was gone so when I went for the service I got those patches corrected. I didnt take any coating package as such. I polish my bike on my own using 3M premium liquid wax and once after the rainy season I'll be taking it to a detailer for a proper detailing.
                      Last edited by M_Trigger; 04-30-2017, 01:46 AM.

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by leech View Post
                        They dont have the filter in stock, and don't want the customer to report them to Honda, so they cook up the bullshit story. Due to the engine being well built, the SVC are sure the bike won't show signs of abuse till out of warranty.

                        Personally, I've run the bike 18k kms with the same oil filter vs the recommended 12k change interval, due to unavoidable circumstances. It's too early to find out any signs of engine damage; one of these days when I get hands on some excess ₹₹, I'll experiment with how long the CBR 250 engine can go with Honda Throttle 10w30 FS before destructing. I'm guessing around 15,000-20,000 kms.

                        Before that, I got to order some engine parts, like bore and piston kit. Experts please chime in as to what other parts I may need to order for this experiment. TIA.
                        For me the honda throttle oil loses its viscosity around 2000kms itself, also if your bike is done with free services,try to put a more thicker oil as it's summer, I have decided to go for 300v , where I'll check the oil at 4000km intreval and probably change at 6000km or top depending on the nature of the oil, also better go change the oil filter ,every time u change oil, to keep the engine health in good shape. For oil filter I think some have tried the fz oil filter, I think it's a direct fit, not sure tho , air filter change intreval is 10000km but better to change at 5000 itself if you stay in a dusty region. I will be leaving my bike for service tomorrow also changing my CBR 150 brake pads to the OEM ones as earlier I was a bit broke , the rear p220 ones still have life , hardly use the rear. Also the svc said might need to change the brake disc rear but I got s 2nd opinion from a friend who runs a multi brand service center ,said my disc is good for another 5000-6000kms easily,even earlier the chain sprocket lasted longer than the svc said, I cut a link n used for a good period,I knew when the chain set had to be replaced with sounds n the feel, will keep you guys updated on the rear brakes after service tomorrow,friend said he will get the caliper cleaned and rear brake bled. Any idea on the change intreval of brake oil guys?

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post
                          Today I observed that after a short city ride of aprox 12km both the side of the fuel tank and also pannels below the tank got warm. So is it fine or should I get it checked?

                          My bike is new with just 134 km on the odo
                          Completely normal. As a matter of fact, in B2B you can feel the heat in legs at some point and since the side panels and cowls are at close proximity to the radiator and the engine itself, it's normal to see some slight heating up of the plastic components, absolutely normal

                          Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                          It's been a month that I got the CBR. So much impressed by this bike.
                          Rode it arnd 1200 kms in a month, mostly on highways. Before first service ~ bike had heating problem even on highways. But after the first service, heating problem hasn't occurred. Yes in city - B2B traffic, bike gets heated but I think it's normal for this bike. Also felt, riding in 1st n 2nd gear in traffic is not comfortable. But as u get space u can leave the trafic behind easily. Handling is very good. Had pain in wrist in starting but it's not happening anymore.
                          Previously I had Activa n used it even on highways, even did trip of 370+ kms in a single day. It was so uncofortable to use it even on 100 km ride. Had to ride Activa as had no other options. But now after using CBR, 100 km rides end so smoothly. Yet to make a longer ride, but expecting it soon.
                          Over all a month review ~ Riding such bike under 70 for engine break in, is the toughest part after owning a new bike. But as said, patience is a virtue, after the first service ~ this bike shows it's true beauty.
                          Posting some pics of my CBR taken in last month


                          I usually am not a proponent for quoting pictures for answers. But this is beautiful picture indeed. What was the exposure setting. needless the galaxy looks amazing, thing I love about extended exposure..

                          Originally posted by shan2306 View Post
                          Not yet and the guy from the store recommended me not to connect it directly to the battery instead connect to ignition of the bike.
                          I have connected it to battery directly. Whether it void warranty? Anyone knows how to connect it to ignition? Which part of the bike we need to open?
                          Connecting it directly to the battery means, the device is always drawing power, parasitic drain. This is fast effective and doesn't require splicing of any wires. In case of ignition operated accessories, the wiring must be spliced for it to be operational with the ignition, though this can be done after warranty period or after the free service period. Try not to fiddle with wiring during the service period. Considering the drama that unfolds with servicing at service centers for the 250, you may want to keep your warranty intact.

                          Originally posted by leech View Post

                          Personally, I've run the bike 18k kms with the same oil filter vs the recommended 12k change interval, due to unavoidable circumstances. It's too early to find out any signs of engine damage; one of these days when I get hands on some excess ₹₹, I'll experiment with how long the CBR 250 engine can go with Honda Throttle 10w30 FS before destructing. I'm guessing around 15,000-20,000 kms.

                          Before that, I got to order some engine parts, like bore and piston kit. Experts please chime in as to what other parts I may need to order for this experiment. TIA.
                          Good luck destructing the CBR's engine. As long as there is oil, she'll keep on chugging you just cannot kill a Honda just like that. But, in case you eventually MURDER it, then the part list can go long. In that case, start searching for a used engine, the repair bills would exceed the cost a bike that's been totaled in a junkyard with a good engine.

                          Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                          I will be leaving my bike for service tomorrow also changing my CBR 150 brake pads to the OEM ones as earlier I was a bit broke , the rear p220 ones still have life , hardly use the rear. Also the svc said might need to change the brake disc rear but I got s 2nd opinion from a friend who runs a multi brand service center ,said my disc is good for another 5000-6000kms easily,even earlier the chain sprocket lasted longer than the svc said, I cut a link n used for a good period,I knew when the chain set had to be replaced with sounds n the feel, will keep you guys updated on the rear brakes after service tomorrow,friend said he will get the caliper cleaned and rear brake bled. Any idea on the change intreval of brake oil guys?
                          Deathwing, do post the pictures of the 150Rs brake pad side by side w.r.t to the stock Bybre's pad and the price on the packing if you can, would help mighty for lot of folks here. We did have a topic about this quite a while back and there was some lack of clarity, so this would be very helpful. Secondly, rotors are required to be changed when they are excessively worn or scored with circular indents.. If you see excessive ring and deep groves on the rotor then they require replacement. Also one easy way to is to measure the thickness of the rotor using a vernier caliper/screw gauge. Usually it's 3.3 to 3.5 mm min thickness mentioned on the rotor itself. Check if it's equal and more than that, then your rotor is fine, if it's lesser than 3, then a replacement is a good idea.

                          Cheers
                          VJ
                          Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 04-30-2017, 03:46 AM.
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post
                            Sorry my mistake.
                            Sorry those are the labour charges
                            1227 engine oil
                            36 consumable
                            199 chain lube
                            300 brake cleaning
                            Total 1.4k +600 labour

                            Rs 74 are the taxes.

                            When I saw the bike before booking some minor scratches where present. So before delivery they tried to polish those scratches but insted due to there shabby work the shine of those 3-4 patches was gone so when I went for the service I got those patches corrected. I didnt take any coating package as such. I polish my bike on my own using 3M premium liquid wax and once after the rainy season I'll be taking it to a detailer for a proper detailing.
                            1st service is free, as well as 2nd and 3rd (i.e no labour is charged but only consumables) Then why charge 600 for labour? Please check it out before it's too late. Pretty sure that they've looted you blindfolded.
                            Last edited by abhishek_pustake; 04-30-2017, 05:56 AM.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by abhishek_pustake View Post
                              1st service is free, as well as 2nd and 3rd (i.e no labour is charged but only consumables) Then why charge 600 for labour? Please check it out before it's too late. Pretty sure that they've looted you blindfolded.
                              Thank you. That was a real eye opener. I'll try to get the refund. Really My wing honda has proved why they have such low ratings on google reviews.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post
                                Here's the link to that video
                                https://youtu.be/YuReZW-1AXY
                                Thanks buddy. But I doubt double sided tape will stay for long.
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