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**saikarthik** · 04-27-2017, 11:05 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post

Today I observed that after a short city ride of aprox 12km both the side of the fuel tank and also pannels below the tank got warm. So is it fine or should I get it checked?

My bike is new with just 134 km on the odo

Hi,

First to check over heating, check your temperature gauge in the LCD. If it's in the middle of C & H, there should be no issue.
But check the engine oil and coolant level as well as of the fins are bent too much as [MENTION=58594]leech[/MENTION] said.

P.S - Fins get bent easily in pressure wash, they do this mistake in ASC. So please be watchful and tell to reduce pressure/spray from a distance before they wash your bike.

**M_Trigger** · 04-27-2017, 11:12 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Hi,

First to check over heating, check your temperature gauge in the LCD. If it's in the middle of C & H, there should be no issue.
But check the engine oil and coolant level as well as of the fins are bent too much as [MENTION=58594]leech[/MENTION] said.

P.S - Fins get bent easily in pressure wash, they do this mistake in ASC. So please be watchful and tell to reduce pressure/spray from a distance before they wash your bike.

The temperature was normal and even the engine oil was at proper level. I'll check the fins and coolent. Thank you for the help. ☺☺

**hypheni** · 04-27-2017, 11:49 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Hollowback View Post

Hello, mileage in the city and highway? Comparing this to the dominar 400.
Since only these two bikes have abs and seem good for long run.
Once a month touring and rest of the time city.

Please guide me with mileage

My strong suggestion would be don't compare mileage of these bikes as both these bike falls under performance segment. And yes you considered one of the most important parameter i.e. ABS. Dominar is a modern generation bike but CBR is already having most of them being a 6 years old bike and still shining in the market and giving its competitors a tough fight. And if you think about long run probably 90% people of this forum will point you towards Honda. Plus, do remember CBR is a faired bike thus offers a better wind protection on the highways but on the other hand Dominar probably will give you a better sitting posture as CBR is bit inclined towards sporty riding style.

Lastly for your better info CBR will return you anything between 30-32kmpl in city and 35+kmpl on highways. But amazingly some owner here reported they have got 40kmpl on highways but that's exceptional I guess.

**leech** · 04-27-2017, 11:54 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Hollowback View Post

Hello, mileage in the city and highway? Comparing this to the dominar 400.
Since only these two bikes have abs and seem good for long run.
Once a month touring and rest of the time city.

Please guide me with mileage

Ok. I have some pretty good mileage stats over 38000 kms of riding.

Chennai city : moderate traffic, 5 minutes signals, average speed of 25 kmph = 30 kmpl.

Village area : light traffic, 1 minute signals, average speed of 50 kmph = 35 kmpl.

Highway ripping : light traffic, average speeds of 100 kmph, keeping the throttle pinned at 120-145 kmph whenever possible = 29 kmpl.

Highway cruising : light traffic, speeds kept at 80-100 kmph = 40 kmpl.

Highway cruising : light traffic, tyre pressure at 10 psi more than recommended, minimal throttle, speeds kept at 72 kmph in 6th gear for the most part = 49.8 kmpl.

Dominar is a great bike too, you can expect 15 kmph more touring speeds than the CBR 250, as well as lower mileage.

**sstherockz** · 04-27-2017, 12:10 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post

A little off topic, but in regards to chain lube/clean; a friend lost his two fingers of right hand while cleaning his N650's chain last weekend in Allahabad. The serious mistake he did was he tried to clean the chain while 1st gear was engaged. Bike was on maintenance stand. In a matter of seconds due to some distraction, both index and middle finger were pulled over rear sprocket under the chain - one detached instantly and another finger crushed badly to non-repairable condition.

Shared it here because if anyone is doing so, he/she must refrain from lubing/cleaning chain while motor on. Frankly speaking, I have also done cleaning while motor on for once or twice in the past. Thought to share it as a lesson if someone else does the same.

I even had the same kind of accident but luckily all my 4 fingers escaped.

Cleaned the chain by engaging the 1st gear
Fingers went inside the rear sprocket and stuck. I couldn't call anyone for help as I was in basement . Somehow engaged the clutch and released.

**M_Trigger** · 04-27-2017, 12:20 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by sstherockz View Post

I even had the same kind of accident but luckily all my 4 fingers escaped.

Cleaned the chain by engaging the 1st gear
Fingers went inside the rear sprocket and stuck. I couldn't call anyone for help as I was in basement . Somehow engaged the clutch and released.

You are a very luck man. Take care.

**leech** · 04-27-2017, 12:21 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=86472]sstherockz[/MENTION] - how did that happen ? U use the fingers to touch the chain?

They have a grunge brush, aerosol spray, how did you guys manage to crush the fingers?

**M_Trigger** · 04-27-2017, 12:26 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by leech View Post

[MENTION=86472]sstherockz[/MENTION] - how did that happen ? U use the fingers to touch the chain?

They have a grunge brush, aerosol spray, how did you guys manage to crush the fingers?

Usually after using the chain cleaner and the brush a cloth is used to remove the remaining dirt from the chain and to dry the chain before applying the lube. This must have happen during wiping the chain.

**psr** · 04-27-2017, 12:36 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Hi, the link says it was in Australia and then at the end there were links to check recall in US, UK, Canada etc..
Since, they mentioned it was a quality control issue in manufacturing process was this isolated to specific manufacturing unit in Australia or global??
It doesn't make much sense to recall globally if its not a process parameter issue and just quality control in mfg.

Assuming this is not the quality issue of bearing.
@psr Please correct if am on the other side of understanding.

The issue is one of quality which definitely warrants recall. The particular part which had failed is the Crankshaft bearing which is a serious issue. Honda outsources some parts and the bearings are one of them. So the manufacturer of these Crank bearing had not supplied quality bearings, or while fitting an error lead to it's early failure. Either way for the customer it is a catastrophic failure needing entire engine replacement...The VIN numbers have been published to fix the particular batch of Bikes which are likely to have these faulty bearings...
Honda had not specifically clarified the type of bearing failure so we can only speculate .
Good Luck

**sstherockz** · 04-27-2017, 12:37 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post

Usually after using the chain cleaner and the brush a cloth is used to remove the remaining dirt from the chain and to dry the chain before applying the lube. This must have happen during wiping the chain.

Exactly
I wrapped the cloth on to my hands and was wiping the dirt. Cloth got stuck into the chain and fingers were dragged with it. [emoji23]

**sstherockz** · 04-27-2017, 12:42 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by M_Trigger View Post

Usually after using the chain cleaner and the brush a cloth is used to remove the remaining dirt from the chain and to dry the chain before applying the lube. This must have happen during wiping the chain.

Worst part, I cannot fold my ring finger more than 50% [emoji4]

**psr** · 04-27-2017, 12:43 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by sstherockz View Post

I even had the same kind of accident but luckily all my 4 fingers escaped.

Cleaned the chain by engaging the 1st gear
Fingers went inside the rear sprocket and stuck. I couldn't call anyone for help as I was in basement . Somehow engaged the clutch and released.

That was a nasty injury and on the finger joints.... You are really lucky and your presence of mind to use the clutch must have saved you from further damage to the fingers....
I hope you had taken Anti Tetanus injection and using local antibiotics till the wound heals..

Take care,
Good Luck..

**sstherockz** · 04-27-2017, 01:06 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by psr View Post

That was a nasty injury and on the finger joints.... You are really lucky and your presence of mind to use the clutch must have saved you from further damage to the fingers....
I hope you had taken Anti Tetanus injection and using local antibiotics till the wound heals..

Take care,
Good Luck..

Yes Sir I have take Anti Tetanus and anti biotics

but still the fingers got infected due to chain lubes and grease, due to that doctors had to re clean the wounds completely and again staple it back.

**saikarthik** · 04-27-2017, 01:44 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by psr View Post

So the manufacturer of these Crank bearing had not supplied quality bearings, or while fitting an error lead to it's early failure.
Honda had not specifically clarified the type of bearing failure so we can only speculate .

Thank you ji, I got this speculation in the second post to my previous one.

But Honda gets bearings from suppliers like INA, who are known for perfection. Mostly as you mentioned as the second reason, fitment or the crank case might be faulty.

But for the sake of doubt, let us assume bearing is the culprit. And mostly any company picks standard off the shelf application specific bearing, and if that's the case not just Honda would have had this issue. That is why in my second post I had to assume it wasn't the bearing [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] - Sorry for bothering you with this closed issue.

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Originally posted by sstherockz View Post

but still the fingers got infected due to chain lubes and grease, due to that doctors had to re clean the wounds completely and again staple it back.

Oh,

take care man. It would have been be difficult to clean the grease completely.

**psr** · 04-27-2017, 03:52 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Thank you ji, I got this speculation in the second post to my previous one.

But Honda gets bearings from suppliers like INA, who are known for perfection. Mostly as you mentioned as the second reason, fitment or the crank case might be faulty.

But for the sake of doubt, let us assume bearing is the culprit. And mostly any company picks standard off the shelf application specific bearing, and if that's the case not just Honda would have had this issue. That is why in my second post I had to assume it wasn't the bearing @psr - Sorry for bothering you with this closed issue.

-Oh,

take care man. It would have been be difficult to clean the grease completely.

. In these times, when mass production and numbers matter for profits, some times errors do happen, at manufacturing , at spares procurement, and at spares supply to Authorised Service centers.

For example, a CBR250R owner ,(abroad)who did engine oil replacement with Filter,by himself, had engine seizure within 20 Kms . when the ASC attended to the fault, they said it was the owner's fault ..due to the oil filter being wrongly fitted...the owner had bought the filter from the same ASC asking for cbr250r filter and had bill to prove...It was then found, that even in the ASC stores inventory the oil filters had wrong markings ...Later on it was found that the Oil filter for CBR250R and another model bike were same , except the markings were different..
I had posted about this in this thread some time back with images.

here is the link to the article...

Motorcycle blew up because of a faulty labeled oil filter by manufacturer : motorcycles

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