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  • Originally posted by redrage View Post
    There is dearth of spares at most dealers. For my spare Oil Filter too i had to really nag them to get it. But the dealer said this issue will be resolved soon, with their second plant in Rajasthan up and running, they say they could address this issue to an extent. Only time will tell.

    Spares are a issue , try to ask you dealer to make a vor for the spare you need & you can pay the vor charges ( which are maximum upto 10/12 % of cost of spare for HEROHONDA , but be sure to ask them how much ) & the spare will be at dealer withing 3/4 days

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    • Originally posted by aargee View Post
      ^^^ JD - there's nothing to panic, I'd say. See the recent experience of redrage, he was treated well. Sudeep's bike is running fine, DK's bike is fine; IMO, we're either over reacting because the spare's inavailability is over the entire planet.

      A local dealer says Honda USA hasn't shipped them workshop manual yet; since they've a mechanic who's working with SBK's for quite few years, they're not too concerned about the workshop manual & they only stick to owner's manual.
      Ji I think the problem here is that the owner had paid 1.6 L for a 250cc...it is twice the price of Pulsar 220...CBR does 145 top end,so does Pulsar P220.CBR has the latest tech, but is it any faster or more Reliable than a new P220 ?may be in two years the difference will be known..but for 1.6 L the build is same as P220, mileage is same, speed is same, but spares are not available, and there are quality issues.......One could have easily settled with a P220 with good service backup and all spares available, AT HALF THE COST....So what do you get EXTRA for 1.6 L that P220 cannot give ?
      This I think is what is Irritating owners...I could be wrong...Just my thought.
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • Originally posted by psr View Post
        Ji I think the problem here is that the owner had paid 1.6 L for a 250cc...it is twice the price of Pulsar 220...CBR does 145 top end,so does Pulsar P220.CBR has the latest tech, but is it any faster or more Reliable than a new P220 ?may be in two years the difference will be known..but for 1.6 L the build is same as P220, mileage is same, speed is same, but spares are not available, and there are quality issues.......One could have easily settled with a P220 with good service backup and all spares available, AT HALF THE COST....So what do you get EXTRA for 1.6 L that P220 cannot give ?
        This I think is what is Irritating owners...I could be wrong...Just my thought.
        +1 very well said

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        • Originally posted by psr View Post
          Ji I think the problem here is that the owner had paid 1.6 L for a 250cc...it is twice the price of Pulsar 220...CBR does 145 top end,so does Pulsar P220.CBR has the latest tech, but is it any faster or more Reliable than a new P220 ?may be in two years the difference will be known..but for 1.6 L the build is same as P220, mileage is same, speed is same, but spares are not available, and there are quality issues.......One could have easily settled with a P220 with good service backup and all spares available, AT HALF THE COST....So what do you get EXTRA for 1.6 L that P220 cannot give ?
          This I think is what is Irritating owners...I could be wrong...Just my thought.
          correction. CBR does a 160top(rider tested + company claimed)
          I think this is the second time im correcting you on this
          And seriously.. its not too late for those people. If they want to sell it they will get a good price considering the waiting list for the bike.
          If that is why they are cribbing then they can just sell the bike to someone for 5-10k less(depending on time n kms) and buy the reliable(citation needed) p220. Simple.
          But remember.. an FI bike is always a + over a carbed bike and saves you all the trouble during a cold start
          And top end doesnt mean much unless you're on a speedrun or something.
          The Honda has accelerates from 0-100km/hr in just around 8 secs compared to the 12-13secs of the p220
          They are a class apart and cant be compared.
          Last edited by Nithesh; 08-03-2011, 12:14 PM.
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          • Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
            correction. CBR does a 160top(rider tested + company claimed)
            I think this is the second time im correcting you on this
            And
            Speedo indicated 160 is not true.....Right from Ninja to CBR, to ZMA, to P220 speedo has 10 to 15Kmph error on the positive side...The 160 Kmph indicated is short burst and only few have been able to say it...read through the posts, and you will see many had struggled to achieve speedo indicated 145 Kmph..in crouched position....and even in the few bikes sold engine seizure on a well set engine had already taken place...that too at 110 kmph.
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • Hi Guys,

              Good morning,

              I got my red CBR 250R on 1st Aug. from Silicon Honda R.V. Road Bangalore.
              The 60 days turn around time since the day of booking was painful...but this thread on xbhp was a saving grace.

              I have been following this thread since long time and has some serious discussions on the product. Would appreciate all you guys who have poured in your thoughts and helped others when needed.

              I would like to thank Mr. Ajaz the Manager & Mr. Sham Sunder the the tech. manager at Silicon Honda, R.V. Road for their excellent customer service and personal attention given during the entire process of selection of bike to the delivery date. Mr. Sham is a strict task master and his guys are being educated in handling these expensive bikes.

              Coming to the baby blade...well she run very very good. I have qualified from a ZMA..which i have been using for last 6 years & still keeping it. The bike dynamics are very good and the weight is very well distributed. Runs like a charm and it makes many eye ball pop-out..

              I have been having my share of questions & answers..at the traffic lights....!!

              These bikes deserves lot of care and respect...and urges the owners to be extra responsible on the road. Hence ensuring ones own safety and safety of others.
              I heard that other person who took the delivery of the bike just an hour later than me had a fall just 100mts from the showroom....It seems he panicked and slammed the front brake...and the family just toppled to the side...resulting in damages to the person and the bike......To the dismay it was found out he had just qualified from a moped to cbr...!!!

              Thank you guys for this wonderful thread and its contents. I shall keep updating as the run-in progress. Regards.
              www.viewfinderonline.blogspot.com

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              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                Speedo indicated 160 is not true.....Right from Ninja to CBR, to ZMA, to P220 speedo has 10 to 15Kmph error on the positive side...The 160 Kmph indicated is short burst and only few have been able to say it...read through the posts, and you will see many had struggled to achieve speedo indicated 145 Kmph..in crouched position....and even in the few bikes sold engine seizure on a well set engine had already taken place...that too at 110 kmph.
                speedo indicated is a 165 for Thai bikes so far so im guessing the actual figure is around 158-160

                I remember Sudeep and somebody else mentioning 145 with pillion. All it needs is a good stretch of road and a prayer asking god to reduce the crosswinds.
                ive seen members reached 151+ km/hr here with extra juice remaining but length of road depleting
                And u think a p220 does 145 true speed? Last time i checked the gps test showed 138.5km/hr
                and where can i find those "few unlucky owners"? link please?
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.

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                • Some of my observations
                  Originally posted by Nithesh View Post
                  I remember Sudeep and somebody else mentioning 145 with pillion.
                  I have managed to do 138 kmph with pillion and could've done more. I think tulinisarg did 149 kmph with pillion.
                  I've managed to do 148-149 kmph alone couple of times and ran out of road or the crosswinds made me slow down. Once when I did 145 on speedo, my GPS showed me 138.xx kmph.
                  Many guys I know were able to take it above 155 kmph.
                  I can agree that, True speed on CBR = Speedo indicated on P220.
                  Sudeep P Nambiar
                  Facebook | Twitter | Bangalore CBR 250R Riders Facebook Group
                  "If the path is beautiful, let us not ask where it leads. And if the destination is beautiful, let us not ask how is the path..."

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                  • @psr - please, dont compare P220 and the CBR. no point going there.

                    And realistically speaking a 140-150 kmph top speed is what one should expect on the CBR. Not what the speedo says.


                    My offerings to the gods of speed -

                    - KTM Duke 200
                    - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Speedo indicated 160 is not true.....Right from Ninja to CBR, to ZMA, to P220 speedo has 10 to 15Kmph error on the positive side...The 160 Kmph indicated is short burst and only few have been able to say it...read through the posts, and you will see many had struggled to achieve speedo indicated 145 Kmph..in crouched position....and even in the few bikes sold engine seizure on a well set engine had already taken place...that too at 110 kmph.
                      @PSR JI:- surprised to hear you judging bikes based on top speeds, there is lot more to a bike than just top speeds for bragging sake, handling, acceleration, roll on's, you are such a knowlegable person that I need not mention all these at all. It would be wrong to expect a litre class bike to do 100 kmph more than the 600 cc bikes, it is just that the litre will be better than the 600 in every aspect by some margin.

                      I hope I have not offended you, I have immense respect for you and read all your posts religiously and I mean it.

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                      • Originally posted by sudeepnbr View Post
                        Some of my observations

                        I have managed to do 138 kmph with pillion and could've done more. I think tulinisarg did 149 kmph with pillion.
                        I've managed to do 148-149 kmph alone couple of times and ran out of road or the crosswinds made me slow down. Once when I did 145 on speedo, my GPS showed me 138.xx kmph.
                        Many guys I know were able to take it above 155 kmph.
                        I can agree that, True speed on CBR = Speedo indicated on P220.
                        Hi Sudeep,

                        You have mentioned that you checked speed on GPS. How much does it cost and where can i buy (show rooms) this?

                        Can we put GPS on CBR? What is the power source? Is it runs on battery?

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                        • Originally posted by sumantg View Post
                          Hi Sudeep,

                          You have mentioned that you checked speed on GPS. How much does it cost and where can i buy (show rooms) this?

                          Can we put GPS on CBR? What is the power source? Is it runs on battery?
                          Hi Sumantg,
                          I do not have a dedicated GPS device. I use the GPS on my phone.
                          Sudeep P Nambiar
                          Facebook | Twitter | Bangalore CBR 250R Riders Facebook Group
                          "If the path is beautiful, let us not ask where it leads. And if the destination is beautiful, let us not ask how is the path..."

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                          • Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                            @psr - please, dont compare P220 and the CBR. no point going there.

                            And realistically speaking a 140-150 kmph top speed is what one should expect on the CBR. Not what the speedo says.
                            Originally posted by bprags View Post
                            @PSR JI:- surprised to hear you judging bikes based on top speeds, there is lot more to a bike than just top speeds for bragging sake, handling, acceleration, roll on's, you are such a knowlegable person that I need not mention all these at all. It would be wrong to expect a litre class bike to do 100 kmph more than the 600 cc bikes, it is just that the litre will be better than the 600 in every aspect by some margin.

                            I hope I have not offended you, I have immense respect for you and read all your posts religiously and I mean it.
                            Kindly take time to read my original post...speed is one of the many things I had pointed out, and as some one who is learning about these engines I do know the shortfall of both the engines....I was merely trying to point out that buyers of CBR expect it to be not a P220 , but something much more..Even before it's launch, there was a huge discussion of comparing CBR with Ninja,and many speculations ...
                            Suffice to say the Indian CBR engine is not the same as launched in Thai .
                            In the original post also I had clearly said, " I could be wrong ", and it is " Just my thought ".
                            I stood by, and felt the pain ,the owner of a Seized engine felt, and know what the feeling is.Honda had accepted the engine failure and replaced with a new Engine.
                            Thanks @bprags for your respect, I hope I will earn it someday, and No I take no offense to any criticism of my views at any time..
                            Last edited by psr; 08-03-2011, 03:00 PM.
                            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                            • engine seizure on a CBR? wow!!! in full agreement with your current and previous post!!


                              My offerings to the gods of speed -

                              - KTM Duke 200
                              - Yamaha RXZ 5 speed


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                              • Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                                engine seizure on a CBR? wow!!! in full agreement with your current and previous post!!
                                Page 171, Post 1703...Engine seizure on a properly run in engine...
                                Also read the posts in Page 172, and onwards.
                                Last edited by psr; 08-03-2011, 04:35 PM.
                                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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