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**aargee** · 08-04-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by gamefreak View Post

Is there anything i should look at with the personal loan guidelines ?

Go through from this post onwards - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post679081

Originally posted by gamefreak View Post

(n ya this is my first post at X-bhp

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Welcome to xBhp & pls avoid SMS language unless you want your posts to be deleted.

**redrage** · 08-04-2011, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

No no!!! I know very well, the oil filters ARE manufactured in India & to precise Periyapalayam in Chennai. The current filter on my C250R is made in Periyapalayam

I think the filters are being distributed by the Periyapalayam unit. If you look closely the packaging cover mentions Periyapalayam but looking at the actual filter itself there is a Made in Thailand written on it.

**aargee** · 08-04-2011, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by redrage View Post

I think the filters are being...Made in Thailand written on it.

Is it? This is news to me. Let me check once again. Tks for the info.

**Sarvajit** · 08-04-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

Yup, the first batch of bikes were the best. ( mine is from one of them, much more refined in comparision to the current set ).

Ditto. Mine is July 03rd, 2008.

Im not sure whats gone wrong with Honda here. Sure it will be cheaper here than thailand, but by margins. They need to maintain their quality.

Yes, paint dulling on the red ones after pressure wash etc. is just not acceptable!

This after i recently saw a CBZ that had done 2,00,000 + kms, after only one top overhaul ( only one oversize )

Don't remind me of that bike-its my first love which I couldn't lay my hands on, so got a Fiero instead. Still with me-another gem.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

I'm sure its THE CHEAPEST in India. Reason being that, Honda cannot compromise the quality for the rest of the world & cannot compromise on the cost in India.

Initially it was told that India&Thailand will be the production hubs for South America&the rest of the world respectively. So does this mean that there are quality issues in the bike even in America? We should get in touch with some owners there too if possible.
Moreover how come there is a 1bhp&around 10kmph difference between the Thai&Indian spec version? Wasn't their tag line one sport quarter for the world?

My only question is, does HMSI get the same standard on their parts made by any Indian vendors, as what they get from Thailand?

If they don't get the same standard, then the mistake is not on HMSI, but on our local vendors. Because a similar case is proven on R15.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Probably HMSI is accepting lower standards? Well let try to relate what I'm trying to think...

Honda Japan says, XYZ standard for certain parts from the point of automotive ENGINEERING, when it comes to actual production from the vendors, the local QC guys look only from metallurgical point & not from automotive engineering.
^^^ Is this right?

I'm seeing Japs coming down to inspect quality of service etc. even now at Yamaha. Trust Honda guys will be doing that at their plants too.
However, I have a doubt that it could be like grapes export-I'm sure you are aware all the grapes produced in India are exported&the ones which we have are well, not upto the mark in terms of quality, could it be the case?

**sumit512** · 08-04-2011, 12:35 PM

Finally bought a jacket and gloves yesterday from Kaulson Racing (Kaulson Racing ...... GO !!!!!!!!!!!! For KRP). They have some very good collection of protective riding gear. Guys if anyone is looking for a jacket I will only advise one thing. Buy after you have tried a jacket. I thought an XL size would suit me fine and I returned with a 3XL

. So whatever brand you choose just make sure you try them first. Ditto for the gloves.

**Nithesh** · 08-04-2011, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

Ditto. Mine is July 03rd, 2008.

Yes, paint dulling on the red ones after pressure wash etc. is just not acceptable!

Initially it was told that India&Thailand will be the production hubs for South America&the rest of the world respectively. So does this mean that there are quality issues in the bike even in America? We should get in touch with some owners there too if possible.
Moreover how come there is a 1bhp&around 10kmph difference between the Thai&Indian spec version? Wasn't their tag line one sport quarter for the world?

1) Pressure wash isnt advisable if u have gone through this thread u wud know better
2) North America gets the Thai bikes. Japan gets the Indian made. So you're looking at the wrong side to ask that question.
3) Theyre not selling different versions of CBR are they?

**bhs** · 08-04-2011, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by gamefreak View Post

I booked my CBR ABS with Dream honda in bangalore in early june. First they told me they will give me a call for d loan formalities. i waited for 1.5 mths, n after seeing nthin happenin gv them a call only to find out i'm supposed to go n do everything.
Once i got all the docs n went to submit my application, they tell me they can't process my loan because I'M TOO YOUNG. Apparently HDFC has a special condition for CBR loans, you should be 26 and above. It was such a shock that a 24yr old cannot get a CBR loan, when everyday they call me to give various kinds of loans. Anyway for now i've escalated the issue to his manager and awaiting a reply.
On the other hand, i've realized that the loan that HDFC is offering in bangalore for the bike seems to be expensive than Personal loans (as per my understanding, i can be wrong too

)
For 3 yrs, they are asking for a downpayment of 61k, and then EMI of 5412 for 35 mths.
From my calculations the extra comes to 53k(over the on road price).
For personal loan, i got a quote of 1.6lc loan at 17.5%, EMI 5473(about)
with extra amount 46500(includes 3500 taxes n fees) for 3 yrs.
So i really am not sure if i should fight and get the bike loan or go ahead with a personal loan. Is there anything i should look at with the personal loan guidelines ?
Help me out guys !
(n ya this is my first post at X-bhp

)

I would say "Go for personal loan"

**Youngking** · 08-04-2011, 02:10 PM

Given it for 2nd service at dream honda after 5952kms on the odo and will be getting my bike by evening. They have oil filter stock

and I am happily replacing it.
Have mentinod about the noise coming some where from front around 4K rpm.
I was unhappy and not surprised (expected) when I noticed the peeled rubber from the left foot peg

. As obvious they won't be getting the footpeg in near future. So I'll be repairing it myself using some epoxy resin.
And guys who are waiting for delivery from dream honda rejoice! They were unloading 2 trucks and atleast 5 or 6 CBRs were there. Witnessed one CBR ABS getting a deep scratch on the exhaust shield live

.

Originally posted by sumantg View Post

How many stops did you take during 380 kms ride. Can we go 400kms non-stop on this bike? I mean does it require any frequent stoppages to let engine cool down? Please let me know as I am planning go long drive on my bike. Did you get wrist pain while riding this bike?

I usually take a 20 min stop at Mc'd and max 2 2min stops in between. It is very capable of doing above 400 continuosly. Obviously there will be compulsary stops for fuelling every 300 or 350 kms. Thanks to the limited range.
And regarding my physical comfort on steady cruise my right palm goes numb. Keep changing the position helps a lot.

**Binoy** · 08-04-2011, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Youngking View Post

Given it for 2nd service at dream honda after 5952kms on the odo and will be getting my bike by evening. They have oil filter stock

and I am happily replacing it.
Have mentinod about the noise coming some where from front around 4K rpm.
I was unhappy and not surprised (expected) when I noticed the peeled rubber from the left foot peg

. As obviously they won't be getting the footpeg in near future. So I'll be repairing it myself using some epoxy resin.
And guys who are waiting for delivery from dream honda rejoice! They were unloading 2 trucks and atleast 5 or 6 CBRs were there. Witnessed one CBR ABS getting a deep scratch on the exhaust shield live

.

I usually take a 20 min stop at Mc'd and max 2 2min stops in between. It is very capable of doing above 400 continuosly. Obviously there will be compulsary stops for fuelling every 300 or 350 kms. Thanks to the limited range.
And regarding my physical comfort on steady cruise my right palm goes numb. Keep changing the position helps a lot.

Bro the second service is at 7K kms rite? your's is 6K

**Youngking** · 08-04-2011, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Binoy View Post

Bro the second service is at 7K kms rite? your's is 6K

I think you are guessing it by the 6K service interval 1K run in + 6K. Yes according to that 3rd service comes on 12K. But the second service has to be done on 6K according to the manual and also you can clearly feel the need of a service when you reach 6K

. I did 1st service @710kms. I and it is more than 5200kms now after that. And also it is not mandatory you should exactly follow the manual, it all depends on how you use and when it needs care.

**kurtrules** · 08-04-2011, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Does that happen even after letting the engine to cool?

The sound is not that prominent after the engine cools down, but it is not how it was initially as well.

**aargee** · 08-04-2011, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

Moreover how come there is a 1bhp&around 10kmph difference between the Thai&Indian spec version? Wasn't their tag line one sport quarter for the world?

Honda would say single 250cc is for the one world

; jokes apart, there's certainly valve angle difference. Let me try looking into the spec of US owner's manual this weekend & keep you posted. If there's any specific I need to look, pls let me know.

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

I'm seeing Japs coming down to inspect quality of service etc. even now at Yamaha. Trust Honda guys will be doing that at their plants too.

HMSI will conveniently fix issues for all their future buyers, what's the use for the existing customers?

Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

However, I have a doubt...in terms of quality, could it be the case?

Very much aware; that's the case even with spices including cashew.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

2) North America gets the Thai bikes. Japan gets the Indian made.

Japan, not sure, but I've witnessed & even taken the pic's of Thai makes of C250R & posted here from US.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

3) Theyre not selling different versions of CBR are they?

I didn't understand; it is indeed different version of C250R in terms of power output. 26 Bhp for rest of the world & 25.xx in India.

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

The sound is not that prominent after the engine cools down, but it is not how it was initially as well.

Obviously things will detoriate as there's mechanical movement. But how much tolerance is the question

**kurtrules** · 08-04-2011, 05:54 PM

I understand things should and would deteriorate, but a difference after just 1k of high speed riding is what is surprising. Moreover I got another oil change at 3K, and its done 4.2k now..Perhaps the reason is that I pushed it a little too much..on and off the road..250 kms constantly above 115-120...perhaps

**Nithesh** · 08-04-2011, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Japan, not sure, but I've witnessed & even taken the pic's of Thai makes of C250R & posted here from US.

I didn't understand; it is indeed different version of C250R in terms of power output. 26 Bhp for rest of the world & 25.xx in India.

1) yeah that's exactly what i said.
2) I think the engine is detuned to put out 25.xx for F.E!

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

I understand things should and would deteriorate, but a difference after just 1k of high speed riding is what is surprising. Moreover I got another oil change at 3K, and its done 4.2k now..Perhaps the reason is that I pushed it a little too much..on and off the road..250 kms constantly above 115-120...perhaps

Just a question. (it may or may not be related to ur problem but still)
Do you let ur bike idle for a min or two before u take off everytime?
Also do you experience any vibrations when you hear that noise?

**aargee** · 08-04-2011, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

but a difference after just 1k of high speed riding is what is surprising

Yes; not acceptable. May be something to check inside the engine. Shim probably

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

Moreover I got another oil change at 3K

Why?

Originally posted by kurtrules View Post

and its done 4.2k now..Perhaps the reason is that I pushed it a little too much..on and off the road..250 kms constantly above 115-120...perhaps

That's no reason IF it were ridden sane on those speeds & more. Mean, no sudden acceleration/engine braking often. IMO, the bike can keep doing 70-75 mph (130-140 Kmph) all day. I really mean all through the day. But only thing is that those speeds shouldn't be reached by redlining, but through natural course.

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

2) I think the engine is detuned to putout 25.xx for F.E!

Yes

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