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  • #5956
    ask about tyres..

    has anyone replace the stock tyres?
    will the 100/80-17 fit the front? i mean since it's has a 80mm height (stock 77mm), will it hit the front fender? dunno the exact clearance when using 110/70-17 tyre..

    just thinking to use 100/80-17 & 130/70-17 combo for better acceleration (and top-end, since it won't hit 10,000rpms with the stock tyres)

    any idea?

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    • #5957
      Originally posted by harsh_66328 View Post
      The best(worst) part was when i left the showroom and just about 200 mtrs away the fuel got over and i was like wtf. They got a serious huge thrashing from my dad. Then they come on a twister and fill about 1L of petrol.
      Lucky me for that.. I had seen this happen with a twister when I had been there to make the payment, so had made it preety clear with the sales rep.

      Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
      Where did you buy the black cover from?
      Well I got it from borivali Race accessories. They also have a branch at malad link rd.

      Originally posted by harsh_66328 View Post
      I got it from jogeshwari. A.H helmets. near lotus petrol pump. That guy has many bike accessories. He'l quote around 450 but u'l get it in 350. Bargain!
      The owner is hemant chheda. Nice guy to deal with. Definately recommendable

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      • #5958
        Originally posted by harsh_66328 View Post
        When i took the bike the last line of fuel was already blinking. I asked the dealer about it and he told me that he had just filled 1L of fuel. He was reluctant to fill it up a bit more. Checked everything. and after leaving the showroom, just few meters away the bike started lugging. I thought it might be because of low rpm on a higher gear or so. (was driving the bike 1st time). If this was happening on my previous bike i would have known that the fuel is over. And after some time the bike stalled. I took it to the side and cranked it up, it started but then stalled again. Behaved like a normal carb bike when fuel gets over. I dont think if anything got damaged(fuel injector), i hope so.

        me too from mira road
        Ohh.. Was a scary story. I guess they must have provided some protection mechanism to the fuel pump. if someone can confirm that, will be great! The showroom guys deserved a peice of mind.


        Originally posted by hotshot.vipin View Post
        all those who financed their bikes!!!
        can you tell about the available Dwn paymnt n EMI options
        Would be a lot better if you enquire the nearest or best showroom around you. Different places, different prices, different finance companies, different schemes and hell lot of confusion would soon be here. Please take a little pain to keep this disscussion away. No offence. Just a request if you have any doubt, then its welcomed.

        Originally posted by MD24 View Post
        Well I got it from borivali Race accessories. They also have a branch at malad link rd.

        The owner is hemant chheda. Nice guy to deal with. Definately recommendable
        Does Race accessories have a good stock of genuine stuff? I once visited it and was almost deserted.

        A.H helmets is almost the official accessory-wala of mumbai xbhp members
        Last edited by MeTaL_MaNiaC; 12-02-2011, 12:57 PM.
        You gotta risk it.. to get da biscuit !!!

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        • #5959
          all those who financed their bikes!!!
          can you tell about the available Dwn paymnt n EMI options
          _____________________________________________
          want something new in my stable,.,.,d pulsar doesn't feed to my need for speed,.,.,.,
          SOMETHING FAIRED
          yamaha r15 (2010) - not riding it now
          pulsar 150 (2006)
          yamaha rx100 (1993)<<still kicks a#$>>

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          • #5960
            Originally posted by martin_sky77 View Post
            has anyone replace the stock tyres?
            will the 100/80-17 fit the front? i mean since it's has a 80mm height (stock 77mm), will it hit the front fender? dunno the exact clearance when using 110/70-17 tyre..

            just thinking to use 100/80-17 & 130/70-17 combo for better acceleration (and top-end, since it won't hit 10,000rpms with the stock tyres)

            any idea?
            since it won't hit 10,000rpms with the stock tyres??
            1.)I have stock tyres ie 110/70-17 and 140/70 17 and i hit rev limiter @ 11,000 rpm.
            2.) In 110/70-17 70 is the aspect ratio of 110(width) which means 70% of 110 ie 77. so in case of 100/80-17, 80% of 100 is 80. so a difference of just 3mm should not be much of a difference.


            i'll suggest you to stay with stock tyres.

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            • #5961
              Originally posted by MeTaL_MaNiaC View Post

              Does Race accessories have a good stock of genuine stuff? I once visited it and was almost deserted.

              A.H helmets is almost the official accessory-wala of mumbai xbhp members
              I'm not regular there. I go to A. H. itself. But as regards to bike cover race was good to go.

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              • #5962
                Originally posted by martin_sky77 View Post
                has anyone replace the stock tyres?
                will the 100/80-17 fit the front? i mean since it's has a 80mm height (stock 77mm), will it hit the front fender? dunno the exact clearance when using 110/70-17 tyre..

                just thinking to use 100/80-17 & 130/70-17 combo for better acceleration (and top-end, since it won't hit 10,000rpms with the stock tyres)

                any idea?
                I have read somewhere that if you use a different size of tyre from the stock, then the ABS unit will not function properly. Please try to confirm this before you proceed. Any thoughts on this seniors?

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                • #5963
                  Originally posted by Mail2vasant View Post
                  since it won't hit 10,000rpms with the stock tyres??
                  1.)I have stock tyres ie 110/70-17 and 140/70 17 and i hit rev limiter @ 11,000 rpm.
                  2.) In 110/70-17 70 is the aspect ratio of 110(width) which means 70% of 110 ie 77. so in case of 100/80-17, 80% of 100 is 80. so a difference of just 3mm should not be much of a difference.


                  i'll suggest you to stay with stock tyres.
                  yes, i mean it won't hit 10k rpms on 6th gear...
                  did u hit the limiter on 6th gear? on stock bike?

                  since the speedo has deviation about 4% more, maybe if i can stick the 100/80-17 at front these number will decrease
                  (but guess there's not much space left between the fender and the stock tyre)
                  Last edited by martin_sky77; 12-02-2011, 01:49 PM.

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                  • #5964
                    Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post
                    I have read somewhere that if you use a different size of tyre from the stock, then the ABS unit will not function properly. Please try to confirm this before you proceed. Any thoughts on this seniors?
                    it'll still function, just with a different calculation..
                    it can lead a better calculation or even worse, but won't make you fall from the bike
                    doesn't plan to stick the diff tyres on ABS type actually..
                    Last edited by martin_sky77; 12-02-2011, 01:49 PM.

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                    • #5965
                      Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post
                      I have read somewhere that if you use a different size of tyre from the stock, then the ABS unit will not function properly
                      I'm having mixed feeling on it; theory 1 says wheel lock & ABS kicks in; theory 2 says s/w reads input from ECU, tire profile & surface area to work. The latter always puts me into confusion.
                      Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                      • #5966
                        Originally posted by aargee View Post
                        I'm having mixed feeling on it; theory 1 says wheel lock & ABS kicks in; theory 2 says s/w reads input from ECU, tire profile & surface area to work. The latter always puts me into confusion.
                        the ABS sensor send the rotation pulses to the ABS Modulator (not ECU), then (they say) compare it with the speed (from speedometer? didn't it has a deviation?). if the speedometer didn't read 0 (zero), then the ABS Modulator will reduce the braking power distribution to the locked wheel(s)..

                        then it sounded like theory 1 IMHO

                        correct me if i'm wrong
                        Last edited by martin_sky77; 12-02-2011, 02:04 PM.

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                        • #5967
                          According to what i understand, the ABS computer recieves signals from both the wheels. When spinning at same speed and at company designed condition, these signals should be equal. If there is any variation in the two signals, the computer commands the tire spinning faster to brake more and the one with lesser spinning to brake less so that they come back in synchronization. And in such a condition, when a tyre is not as per company's specs, it would always send a false signal causing the computer to keep braking the other tyre if smaller and late braking if the other tyre is bigger than stock. (smaller and bigger respect to circumference). There may be some tolerance in the rotation if set by company and may take some size here and there. But only if tolerence is allowed.
                          What does ECU has to do with it? And how will the tyre profile be measured or sensed by the bike? IMO, ABS unit would be completely independent of the ECU as it has its own brain (computer).
                          All according to what i understand. Please correct me if wrong.
                          You gotta risk it.. to get da biscuit !!!

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                          • #5968
                            Originally posted by MeTaL_MaNiaC View Post
                            ....And in such a condition, when a tyre is not as per company's specs, it would always send a false signal causing the computer to keep braking the other tyre if smaller and late braking if the other tyre is bigger than stock. (smaller and bigger respect to circumference). There may be some tolerance in the rotation if set by company and may take some size here and there. But only if tolerence is allowed.
                            What does ECU has to do with it? And how will the tyre profile be measured or sensed by the bike? IMO, ABS unit would be completely independent of the ECU as it has its own brain (computer).
                            ....
                            then this must be theory 3

                            in this case (theory), it's indeed has tolerance..why?
                            the rear tyre usually worn faster than the front, that's why..

                            yes, it should be integrated with the ABS modulator (the 4kgs thing)

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                            • #5969
                              Originally posted by martin_sky77 View Post
                              the ABS sensor send the rotation pulses to the ABS Modulator (not ECU), then (they say) compare it with the speed (from speedometer? didn't it has a deviation?). if the speedometer didn't read 0 (zero), then the ABS Modulator will reduce the braking power distribution to the locked wheel(s)..

                              then it sounded like theory 1 IMHO

                              correct me if i'm wrong
                              This does sound convincing, but i think the speed it reads is not zero. It is around 10kmph. The ABS light keeps glowing until we cross 10kmph and the tyre does skid at a speed below that.

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                              • #5970
                                Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post
                                This does sound convincing, but i think the speed it reads is not zero. It is around 10kmph. The ABS light keeps glowing until we cross 10kmph and the tyre does skid at a speed below that.
                                hmmm...maybe we should use the front and rear paddock, then start to turn the wheel (can try the front or rear first) by hands until either the wheel exceed the 10km/h (each) and see is the abs indicator's light turn off


                                but since the speedometer reads from the front wheel, maybe it's the time to read the rear wheel rotation
                                Last edited by martin_sky77; 12-02-2011, 02:53 PM.

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