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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by rocker View Post
    About your engine oil query, I would like to say that stick to company recommendations. I am reading this forum since 2009 and found more horror stories than good ones after playing with engine oils. Its possible that you will find something better but more chances are of being tossed up. Motul makes Yamalube as well but after putting same grade Motul in Yamahas they behave slugish. Peace of mind info is stick with stock oil and if you want reduce the drain intervals of the oil.

    And stopping bike every 45 mins is necessary to save the engine from overheating. As rings, seals, valves, engine components are all new and can get damaged due to lack of proper clearances which creates high heat in intial run-in times. Take just 5-10 min brakes, I think thats no big deal as it will let you ride non stop all day later.

    Sent from my ST25i
    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
    I guess Honda knows this better than us, right? You may switch to mineral for the traditional way of running in, but its not needed actually. Stick to FS. These are modern engines bro. You can take your *brand new* bike to 120 on the way back home from the showroom.

    The only trick is - how do you reach 120?

    ^^^ That's the only line mentioned in the manual as well. (w.r.t run in)
    That's what I'm doing right now. No sudden acceleration or deceleration and even increasing my rpm limit quite gradually. No fiddling around with oils anymore just that ill get my oil changed once between the first 1000kms so that the worn off particles don't start being a hindrance. That should be fine right? Thanks for your advice.





    On a side note, does anyone know how I can test or 'have a feel of' the abs?




    Sent from my CBR 250R

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post

      On a side note, does anyone know how I can test or 'have a feel of' the abs?

      Sent from my CBR 250R
      Find a safe deserted road, wear full gear and slam the brakes around 40-50 kmph. But be in your limits while doing so. But real feel will be in real conditions someday and you will praise this tech.


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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by rocker View Post
        Find a safe deserted road, wear full gear and slam the brakes around 40-50 kmph. But be in your limits while doing so. But real feel will be in real conditions someday and you will praise this tech.


        Sent from my ST25i
        I know a little how its done in theory but while doing so, what should I be looking out for that will confirm the abs kicking in?
        I just need to check if all is okay.

        Sent from my CBR 250R

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Brake lever will be pulsing when ABS kicks in as fluid pressure changes for those quick grabbing and releasing action of brakes.

          Sent from my ST25i
          || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

          2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
          2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
          2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
          2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
          2015 Yamaha Ray Z
          2016 KTM RC390
          2016 Triumph Street Triple

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by rocker View Post
            Brake lever will be pulsing when ABS kicks in as fluid pressure changes for those quick grabbing and releasing action of brakes.

            Sent from my ST25i
            Alright thanks. Much appreciated.

            Going off topic, if I may, care to share how your experience with your R15has been? And how good are Yamaha's ASCs in general?

            Sent from my CBR 250R

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
              I think that's standard policy, I too had the same experience, they didn't show "my" bike until the payment was made.
              Not a very big deal - once you examine the bike, and find anything suspicious, refuse to accept the bike flatly until they replace the defective part (bent radiator/dented cowl etc etc). Escalate the matter to the showroom manager if required. If they are asking for trouble, let them have it in plenty!
              Managed to stop the cheque from being encashed whew.

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              Besides, the rear break foot pedal, does it work in abs?

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
                Alright thanks. Much appreciated.

                Going off topic, if I may, care to share how your experience with your R15has been? And how good are Yamaha's ASCs in general?

                Sent from my CBR 250R
                Anytime bro

                As far as R15 experience goes, I can only say its really good. You can check R15 v2.0 thread to check what I have experienced. Cant paste links as I am on cell rightnow. Bear with me for this.

                Sent from my ST25i
                || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

                2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
                2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
                2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
                2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
                2015 Yamaha Ray Z
                2016 KTM RC390
                2016 Triumph Street Triple

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by Manan View Post
                  Besides, the rear break foot pedal, does it work in abs?

                  lol. I assume that was sarcasm. Pulling in the front brake lever fully contributes 70% front + 30% rear brakes. And until certain level, pressing only the rear pedal actuates only the rear brake.
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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    lol. I assume that was sarcasm. Pulling in the front brake lever fully contributes 70% front + 30% rear brakes. And until certain level, pressing only the rear pedal actuates only the rear brake.
                    got me
                    Well till the time the showroom gets my bike and the documentation gets cleared, I will be taking a long nap.

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                    Originally posted by rocker View Post
                    I really have no idea what makes these Honda guys so arrogant. I went at Regent Honda Faridabad twice and everytime they made me run out due to their behavior. They behave like they are giving bikes for free and customer approach is non existent, may be because of getting good grip in the market by Honda. Special thing is, they ask money before you even see the bike.

                    Sent from my ST25i
                    Perhaps yes.

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post





                      One issue though, the tire felt a little wobbly when going over a not very well constructed road at 60kmph. Is it a problem with the contigos or just that they've yet to be run in properly?

                      If I had to complain about one thing though, it would be the side stand. That thing hardly seems capable of supporting the bike's weight.
                      The conti-go tires do need run-in. The tires are actually shitty to speak off, but they get better from what they offer when they are new after clocking few hundred kms on them. Be careful on gravels though..

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by Manan View Post
                        Managed to stop the cheque from being encashed whew.

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                        Besides, the rear break foot pedal, does it work in abs?
                        Hi,
                        CBR250RAC model as name suggests has a combined braking system(C) with ABS within it (C'A'BS)

                        1. Basically, pressing rear brake pedal engages rear as well as front (it is subtle - there is a delay feedback system in place from rear press to front brake-
                        a slight press on rear brake doesn't effect the front much to observe both).
                        1.1 This is good, when we apply rear only sometimes.
                        1.2 This is also good, that RSI is reduced on front index finger as I apply less pressure on front brake to come to a stop (as applying rear engages front - ultimately
                        to come to a stop- I am using less pressure on both).

                        2. Further, pressing only the front only engages the front.

                        But then – ABS is like a bail out system or– it is like a guardian Devi- does she has to come and show her presence everyday? Ans: No, she will only come and save me when needed. Do I have to test if Devi is there?. Lots of people have tried - Last time I tested - pressed rear bit hard - it gave some feedback on foot pedal (may be phantom)- no lock up of rear seen. Front lock up test as risky for me- didn't try yet . But already one situation happened where I would have locked up front and dumped, but some how front didn't lock= may be ABS or phantom or I was within limits or lucky.

                        3. So, no change in braking habit was required for me. As I apply both brakes (more of front), I think the CABS helps by supplying more front braking power (because
                        the rear press feeds back to front brake also). So, I am thinking that it is less work done by my muscles and more work done by CBR braking system - ultimately
                        the work done by rider is less to achieve an stopping distance under normal circumstances.


                        So if you are a front only person – then ABS is there for you
                        If you are front as well as rear person–then CABS is there for you – good option

                        Bottom line – No need to think about braking because ABS is there, just forget it (it will be there) Ride normally!. Enjoy your ride!
                        Last edited by kpvision; 05-12-2013, 12:49 AM. Reason: bottomline
                        ~shifting at 6K RPM

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by Avenger88 View Post
                          Hey Blade owners,

                          I replaced my chain and sprockets last week. The difference... WOW..... !
                          Was hard to believe.... So smooth ride.... The gear shifts have become butter smooth...
                          The entire feel of bike has changed for the best... Its so silent yet so eager to make a dash...
                          Reminded of my first test ride on the CBR250R.... Luv my bike.. :-)
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                          How much did those parts cost?

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                          Originally posted by kpvision View Post
                          Hi,
                          1. Lots of people have tried - Last time I tested - pressed rear bit hard - it gave some feedback on foot pedal (may be phantom)- no lock up of rear seen. Front lock up test as risky for me- didn't try yet .

                          2. So, no change in braking habit was required for me.
                          So if you are a front only person – then ABS is there for you
                          If you are front as well as rear person–then CABS is there for you – good option
                          Bottom line – No need to think about braking because ABS is there, just forget it (it will be there) Ride normally!. Enjoy your ride!
                          1. I couldn't push the breaks all the way through because on my previous bike I have had multiple skids and the fear doesn't allow me to push the brakes 'just for the sake of it'. I tried them though and they seem to be working fine. So it's good to know that it'll help during panic breaking and that is what they are there for.

                          2. Completely agreed. Couldn't say it any better.

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                          Originally posted by Mayankisme View Post
                          The conti-go tires do need run-in. The tires are actually shitty to speak off, but they get better from what they offer when they are new after clocking few hundred kms on them. Be careful on gravels though..
                          Thanks. You'd think with such fat tires you can atleast be guaranteed some safety over gravel but, oh well...

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                          [MENTION=54284]Manan[/MENTION] What variant are you interested in?

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Did anyone go for a ride on their Black CBR today in Lavasa? Saw two of you and a couple of green Ninjas.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
                              As promised, here goes the buying experience:

                              Day 1: 3/05/2013

                              After my exam was over, I rushed down to the student's section to apply for a bonafide certificate for the purchase of my CBR. The people at the ASC had said that booking shouldn't be a problem but while buying the bonafide is required. The bike would take about 20 days for arrival after the booking so it'd be perfect since that's the time my exams would get over. Got the bonafide request in and headed for the showroom to meet my mom there.

                              Here's where it got interesting. When I walk in, there's already a Black C-ABS(the one I wanted) standing there. The dealer said, if you pay the cheque for the whole amount by today evening the bike will be yours by next week and no bonafide is required for the bike. Just an address proof is fine. Since my next exam was in a while, I decided to go for it. Meanwhile, some other customer had come and was sitting on the bike to test it and was basically screwing it up trying to press every switch he could lay his hands on. When the dealer. that I was talking to, came back he asked him to step off. 1000 Rs was paid for the booking and the cheque was to be given by the evening. Papers were also submitted and all the formalities were completed. Before going, I told the Dealer to keep the bike safe and take care. He said 'aap chinta matt karo sir, aapki bike aaj shyam tak go down mein hogi'.

                              In the evening, I rode my stunner back to the ASC and gave them the cheque. And low and behold, there was a red CBR 150R standing where the 250 stood a while back.

                              Day 2: 4/05/2013

                              Now that the excitement started building up, I wanted to go back and ask him to adhere to little details that I asked him for. I said, I didn't want any ASC stickers in the bike anywhere but the Rear plate would do. After all, they need to do that much at least. I was insisting on this because my CBF stunner had 'b.u. bhandari' writting all over the suspension and it looked hideous. That among many other reasons is why I chose Yash Honda. Also, writing something like that on the CBR would be a disgrace to the bike.

                              My second request was, the number should be printed on the front portion of the mudguard instead of the number plate since I am planning to remove it as well. But that he said, couldn't be complied.

                              At about 6 pm he called up and told me that the cheque has been passed and the bike is now yours. Registration is all that is left.

                              Day 4: 6/05/2013

                              I was reminded that a few owners got their CBRs with a very high odo reading so I went to check the odo nad saw '31kms' written on it. That's when I posted a question here asking whether that is okay or not. Thank you bbsrailfan for your help.

                              Secondly, everytime I saw the bike, I made sure to check whether the radiator fins weren't bent.

                              Also, I noticed that there was a small area on the right side cowl(the one near the tail light and I am sure it might be called something else) while booking and now, it was covered up with paint!!

                              Day 5: 7/05/2013

                              Dealer calls me at about 4pm and says your bike is ready and you can come and collect it. I said I would come early morning tomorrow and take it. He said 'chalega sir'.

                              Day 6: 8/05.2013

                              I was very very excited since this was the bike I've been dreaming of since quite a while. I got a checklist ready as to what all I needed to check for the bike before delivery. I even asked the same question here on this thread. Thank you kpvision and bbsrailfan for your help on this matter.
                              Once I reached there, I started checking the bike and everything seemed fine.

                              Here's the funny part, I checked the bike's odo again to see if they've ridden the bike again since yesterday and it turns out the odo reading was actually '3.1 kms'. Had a good laugh about it and my mind was at ease now. I somehow must have missed out on the decimal point.

                              I pointed out the issue of the spot that was painted over and the guy said 'gaadi dhulegi to agar paint maara hai to nikal jayega'. I pointed out that while cleaning they should make sure that they don't spray water on the radiator as the fins just bend. After collecting the papers, I came back to the go down to see my bike being washed and dried. then they said 'sir aap uupar jaakey baitho hum uupar latey hain'. I thought they were just being polite and went up. But half way ,because of the excitement I went and had a look at the bike from the exit of the go down from where the bring the bikes up on the road and I was shocked.
                              What I saw was, they were collectively trying to cover up that spot by spraying something( paint I am guessing) but it wasn't working out for them for god knows what reason. This was the first bad experience with them. I went down after a while and they said they will replace the entire cowl because of the spot and at first I was really happy. They did so as I watched and then I asked an engineer how to tighten the mirrors and he showed me using their own tool. Then when I asked whether the tool was included in the toolkit they said it was and when checked it wasn't there. Here's the second bad experience, they conveniently took it out of another CBR and packed it into mine. The new cowl was brought and this would turn out to be the worst part of the buying experience as I will tell you soon. There were a few black marks so the guy washed it and showed it to me(from a distance) and it seemed clean.
                              After being assembled, I took it for a test ride and everything seemed fine.
                              On the way out one of the engineers said I should fill up my petrol on the way out. I thanked everybody there including the engineers and the dealer as well for a rather smooth experience.

                              While riding out of the ASC, I stopped at a petrol pump close by to fill a little petrol. A guy stops by and starts to ask me about the bike. Any guesses what the first question was? 'Kitna deti hai?'. I have read people's post about the bike turning heads but this was a really good feeling.

                              While riding home I applied the rear brake for the first time and low and behold, it won't work. Also, the bike's third gear would make an unusually loud noise while up shifting(2 to 3). Thank you theironhorse99 bbsrailfan Mayankisme for your help.

                              Reached home and did a small puja and went over the lemons. I don't know why it's done but it seems fun and mom insisted.

                              Went back to the ASC after a while to get the issues checked and they helped me out surprisingly fast. The brake is not much better(just needed to be tightened). They also tightened my bike's clutch for the gear issue. The noise did go down considerably but it was still there.

                              After a while, I noticed that the cowl that had been replaced, had a lot of dents and small spots that I couldn't identify by seeing from afar. It in't good I know but such small issues can be overlooked I guess.


                              Since then , I have been riding the bike extensively and I completed 100 kms in the first 24 hours itself. I have to say it's a great bike and it lives up to the expectations I had. Haven't been able to check the ABS yet because I don't want to decelerate suddenly during the break in. Can't wait to use the bike to it's full potential.
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                              I would like to thank my parents without whom this obviously won't be possible. Also, thanks to yash3339 who cause the 'inception' in the first place. And thanks to all the xbhp members who've helped me through it. Thanks to Yash Honda as well for the smooth experience.

                              Cheers!

                              PS: I don't treat my bike any differently than a liter bike owner treats his ride.

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                              Thank you. You will love it, it's something else.
                              Cheers!
                              Congrats man....welcome aboard

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                              ZMA (2004) - SOLD
                              CBR250R(2012)....


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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
                                Congrats man....welcome aboard

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                                Thank you. It's a brilliant bike.

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