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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by Manan View Post
    What is WOT riding?

    Manan.

    WOT=Wide Open Throttle. Basically, riding hard/ staying near the RPM redline!

    Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by Manan View Post
      What is WOT riding?


      Manan.
      Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
      WOT=Wide Open Throttle. Basically, riding hard/ staying near the RPM redline!
      Something that can lead to this:

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      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
        As promised, here goes the buying experience:

        Day 1: 3/05/2013

        After my exam was over, I rushed down to the student's section to apply for a bonafide certificate for the purchase of my CBR. The people at the ASC had said that booking shouldn't be a problem but while buying the bonafide is required. The bike would take about 20 days for arrival after the booking so it'd be perfect since that's the time my exams would get over. Got the bonafide request in and headed for the showroom to meet my mom there.

        Here's where it got interesting. When I walk in, there's already a Black C-ABS(the one I wanted) standing there. The dealer said, if you pay the cheque for the whole amount by today evening the bike will be yours by next week and no bonafide is required for the bike. Just an address proof is fine. Since my next exam was in a while, I decided to go for it. Meanwhile, some other customer had come and was sitting on the bike to test it and was basically screwing it up trying to press every switch he could lay his hands on. When the dealer. that I was talking to, came back he asked him to step off. 1000 Rs was paid for the booking and the cheque was to be given by the evening. Papers were also submitted and all the formalities were completed. Before going, I told the Dealer to keep the bike safe and take care. He said 'aap chinta matt karo sir, aapki bike aaj shyam tak go down mein hogi'.

        In the evening, I rode my stunner back to the ASC and gave them the cheque. And low and behold, there was a red CBR 150R standing where the 250 stood a while back.

        Day 2: 4/05/2013

        Now that the excitement started building up, I wanted to go back and ask him to adhere to little details that I asked him for. I said, I didn't want any ASC stickers in the bike anywhere but the Rear plate would do. After all, they need to do that much at least. I was insisting on this because my CBF stunner had 'b.u. bhandari' writting all over the suspension and it looked hideous. That among many other reasons is why I chose Yash Honda. Also, writing something like that on the CBR would be a disgrace to the bike.

        My second request was, the number should be printed on the front portion of the mudguard instead of the number plate since I am planning to remove it as well. But that he said, couldn't be complied.

        At about 6 pm he called up and told me that the cheque has been passed and the bike is now yours. Registration is all that is left.

        Day 4: 6/05/2013

        I was reminded that a few owners got their CBRs with a very high odo reading so I went to check the odo nad saw '31kms' written on it. That's when I posted a question here asking whether that is okay or not. Thank you bbsrailfan for your help.

        Secondly, everytime I saw the bike, I made sure to check whether the radiator fins weren't bent.

        Also, I noticed that there was a small area on the right side cowl(the one near the tail light and I am sure it might be called something else) while booking and now, it was covered up with paint!!

        Day 5: 7/05/2013

        Dealer calls me at about 4pm and says your bike is ready and you can come and collect it. I said I would come early morning tomorrow and take it. He said 'chalega sir'.

        Day 6: 8/05.2013

        I was very very excited since this was the bike I've been dreaming of since quite a while. I got a checklist ready as to what all I needed to check for the bike before delivery. I even asked the same question here on this thread. Thank you kpvision and bbsrailfan for your help on this matter.
        Once I reached there, I started checking the bike and everything seemed fine.

        Here's the funny part, I checked the bike's odo again to see if they've ridden the bike again since yesterday and it turns out the odo reading was actually '3.1 kms'. Had a good laugh about it and my mind was at ease now. I somehow must have missed out on the decimal point.

        I pointed out the issue of the spot that was painted over and the guy said 'gaadi dhulegi to agar paint maara hai to nikal jayega'. I pointed out that while cleaning they should make sure that they don't spray water on the radiator as the fins just bend. After collecting the papers, I came back to the go down to see my bike being washed and dried. then they said 'sir aap uupar jaakey baitho hum uupar latey hain'. I thought they were just being polite and went up. But half way ,because of the excitement I went and had a look at the bike from the exit of the go down from where the bring the bikes up on the road and I was shocked.
        What I saw was, they were collectively trying to cover up that spot by spraying something( paint I am guessing) but it wasn't working out for them for god knows what reason. This was the first bad experience with them. I went down after a while and they said they will replace the entire cowl because of the spot and at first I was really happy. They did so as I watched and then I asked an engineer how to tighten the mirrors and he showed me using their own tool. Then when I asked whether the tool was included in the toolkit they said it was and when checked it wasn't there. Here's the second bad experience, they conveniently took it out of another CBR and packed it into mine. The new cowl was brought and this would turn out to be the worst part of the buying experience as I will tell you soon. There were a few black marks so the guy washed it and showed it to me(from a distance) and it seemed clean.
        After being assembled, I took it for a test ride and everything seemed fine.
        On the way out one of the engineers said I should fill up my petrol on the way out. I thanked everybody there including the engineers and the dealer as well for a rather smooth experience.

        While riding out of the ASC, I stopped at a petrol pump close by to fill a little petrol. A guy stops by and starts to ask me about the bike. Any guesses what the first question was? 'Kitna deti hai?'. I have read people's post about the bike turning heads but this was a really good feeling.

        While riding home I applied the rear brake for the first time and low and behold, it won't work. Also, the bike's third gear would make an unusually loud noise while up shifting(2 to 3). Thank you theironhorse99 bbsrailfan Mayankisme for your help.

        Reached home and did a small puja and went over the lemons. I don't know why it's done but it seems fun and mom insisted.

        Went back to the ASC after a while to get the issues checked and they helped me out surprisingly fast. The brake is not much better(just needed to be tightened). They also tightened my bike's clutch for the gear issue. The noise did go down considerably but it was still there.

        After a while, I noticed that the cowl that had been replaced, had a lot of dents and small spots that I couldn't identify by seeing from afar. It in't good I know but such small issues can be overlooked I guess.


        Since then , I have been riding the bike extensively and I completed 100 kms in the first 24 hours itself. I have to say it's a great bike and it lives up to the expectations I had. Haven't been able to check the ABS yet because I don't want to decelerate suddenly during the break in. Can't wait to use the bike to it's full potential.
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        I would like to thank my parents without whom this obviously won't be possible. Also, thanks to yash3339 who cause the 'inception' in the first place. And thanks to all the xbhp members who've helped me through it. Thanks to Yash Honda as well for the smooth experience.

        Cheers!

        PS: I don't treat my bike any differently than a liter bike owner treats his ride.

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        Thank you. You will love it, it's something else.
        Cheers!
        Congrats buddy. As you said small things can be overlooked. From past experiences I have learnt that being anxious about small problems with bike ruins all the fun. Ride safe have fun.

        Sent from my ST25i
        || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

        2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
        2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
        2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
        2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
        2015 Yamaha Ray Z
        2016 KTM RC390
        2016 Triumph Street Triple

        http://www.facebook.com/dinesh11051986

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Guys, its an emergency, I think I am in the danger of being conned!

          The showroom is Silicon honda mysore road RR Nagar.
          Paid in my foolish rush, on 6th, and they promised inspection and delivery on coming Monday.
          On going to the showroom on thursday, Saturday being the booking day, I was shown a std tricolor and assured that my abs tricolor would be shown on friday for inspection. They failed in that.
          Reviews now show that, that Showroom is erractic, so before my cheque is drawn, I will go to them and cancel my order. I instructed them to hold the encashment till the I inspect the bike personally. But as there are delays, so is my fear of getting encashed and being delayed in delivery.

          So tomorrow the d-day arrives.

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by Manan View Post
            Guys, its an emergency, I think I am in the danger of being conned!

            The showroom is Silicon honda mysore road RR Nagar.
            Paid in my foolish rush, on 6th, and they promised inspection and delivery on coming Monday.
            On going to the showroom on thursday, Saturday being the booking day, I was shown a std tricolor and assured that my abs tricolor would be shown on friday for inspection. They failed in that.
            Reviews now show that, that Showroom is erractic, so before my cheque is drawn, I will go to them and cancel my order. I instructed them to hold the encashment till the I inspect the bike personally. But as there are delays, so is my fear of getting encashed and being delayed in delivery.

            So tomorrow the d-day arrives.
            I went through the same thing. I payed the money without the inspection even though the bike was in front of me. Thank fully everything turned out okay. Apart from the obvious, check for places where the paint may come off in which case they will have to replace that part. Also make sure to check the replaced part since that;s where I took the beating.

            Also check the toolkit for proper tools and specially the one to tighten the screws for the fairing since mine wasn't there and some other bike's was given to me. All the best.

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            Originally posted by rocker View Post
            Congrats buddy. As you said small things can be overlooked. From past experiences I have learnt that being anxious about small problems with bike ruins all the fun. Ride safe have fun.

            Sent from my ST25i
            Thank you. And yes, nothing can always be perfect. To truly enjoy something you need to overlook small issues. Cheers!

            ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

            Originally posted by Mayankisme View Post
            I got Black STD delivered on 5th April

            Anyway,Service center experience matters much more than that of buying experience..build up a good rapport with them if you want to get special attention. Till then, Have a blast on those 25 horses..
            Mine is the exact opposite. I had a Honda Stunner and they managed to screw it up left right and center so I am not at good terms with them as I am with the show room guys. Still, I will be trying my best because I don't feel safe giving my bike to a local Mechanic.

            I went for the 'inaugural ride' today, so to speak and it feels exactly like sitting in a car if you've got a good helmet on which can reduce the sound. No vibes at 6th gear(75 kmph limit due to run in), absolutely rock steady on the road, no hard bumps while going through uneven roads.

            One issue though, the tire felt a little wobbly when going over a not very well constructed road at 60kmph. Is it a problem with the contigos or just that they've yet to be run in properly?

            If I had to complain about one thing though, it would be the side stand. That thing hardly seems capable of supporting the bike's weight.
            Last edited by jhonmathews; 05-11-2013, 10:31 AM.

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post

              If I had to complain about one thing though, it would be the side stand. That thing hardly seems capable of supporting the bike's weight.
              Don't worry they know what is needed. Heavy things are not always better.

              Sent from my ST25i
              || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

              2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
              2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
              2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
              2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
              2015 Yamaha Ray Z
              2016 KTM RC390
              2016 Triumph Street Triple

              http://www.facebook.com/dinesh11051986

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by Manan View Post
                Guys, its an emergency, I think I am in the danger of being conned!

                The showroom is Silicon honda mysore road RR Nagar.
                Paid in my foolish rush, on 6th, and they promised inspection and delivery on coming Monday.
                On going to the showroom on thursday, Saturday being the booking day, I was shown a std tricolor and assured that my abs tricolor would be shown on friday for inspection. They failed in that.
                Reviews now show that, that Showroom is erractic, so before my cheque is drawn, I will go to them and cancel my order. I instructed them to hold the encashment till the I inspect the bike personally. But as there are delays, so is my fear of getting encashed and being delayed in delivery.

                So tomorrow the d-day arrives.
                I think that's standard policy, I too had the same experience, they didn't show "my" bike until the payment was made.
                Not a very big deal - once you examine the bike, and find anything suspicious, refuse to accept the bike flatly until they replace the defective part (bent radiator/dented cowl etc etc). Escalate the matter to the showroom manager if required. If they are asking for trouble, let them have it in plenty!

                Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  I really have no idea what makes these Honda guys so arrogant. I went at Regent Honda Faridabad twice and everytime they made me run out due to their behavior. They behave like they are giving bikes for free and customer approach is non existent, may be because of getting good grip in the market by Honda. Special thing is, they ask money before you even see the bike.

                  Sent from my ST25i
                  || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

                  2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
                  2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
                  2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
                  2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
                  2015 Yamaha Ray Z
                  2016 KTM RC390
                  2016 Triumph Street Triple

                  http://www.facebook.com/dinesh11051986

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by rocker View Post
                    I really have no idea what makes these Honda guys so arrogant. I went at Regent Honda Faridabad twice and everytime they made me run out due to their behavior. They behave like they are giving bikes for free and customer approach is non existent, may be because of getting good grip in the market by Honda. Special thing is, they ask money before you even see the bike.

                    Sent from my ST25i
                    Made me rethink my purchase of the CBR and settle for the duke instead but the pros of the bike outweigh the cons of the service centers

                    Sent from my CBR 250R

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
                      Made me rethink my purchase of the CBR and settle for the duke instead but the pros of the bike outweigh the cons of the service centers

                      Sent from my CBR 250R
                      Get what you like, other things are manageable. And let me give an example of it. I wanted to get R15 in 2011 when V2.0 was launched but circumstances didn't allow even after taking full cash to the showroom. When I got frustrated due to all that sh#t settled for 2012 RTR 180 but there was never a single day when I didn't miss R15. Atlast sold of that RTR 180 just after 11 months in half the price and took R15 at last. So no compromises at this part, go for what you want. Love affairs demand pain. Bear it have fun :-)

                      Sent from my ST25i
                      || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

                      2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
                      2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
                      2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
                      2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
                      2015 Yamaha Ray Z
                      2016 KTM RC390
                      2016 Triumph Street Triple

                      http://www.facebook.com/dinesh11051986

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by rocker View Post
                        Special thing is, they ask money before you even see the bike.
                        Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
                        Made me rethink my purchase of the CBR and settle for the duke instead but the pros of the bike outweigh the cons of the service centers
                        On the positive side, once the payment is made, you can literally fork them left & right. After the payment is made and invoice is given, bike is legally yours and they are bound to comply with your demands. I didn't create too much of a hassle when they asked me to pay without examining the bike...but when they started playing around while assembling/delivering the bike, I gave them a piece of my mind.

                        Overall, my buying experience was Neutral at best. Yes, you won't feel like you are a privileged customer buying a flagship model, but then, it's better not to expect any such treatment from those guys. Thankfully my ASC experience has been positive so far :touchwood:

                        Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by rocker View Post
                          Get what you like, other things are manageable. And let me give an example of it. I wanted to get R15 in 2011 when V2.0 was launched but circumstances didn't allow even after taking full cash to the showroom. When I got frustrated due to all that sh#t settled for 2012 RTR 180 but there was never a single day when I didn't miss R15. Atlast sold of that RTR 180 just after 11 months in half the price and took R15 at last. So no compromises at this part, go for what you want. Love affairs demand pain. Bear it have fun :-)

                          Sent from my ST25i
                          Agreed.

                          I want to post a question though about the engine oils. Honda being Honda, should obviously know that Mineral oil is better than FS for the CBR's run in. Yet, they put in the FS as their stock oil. It makes you wonder that may be they must have put in their FS for a reason. Or could it just be the same old 'cheating the consumer' tale?

                          Secondly, I have heard that while breaking in, you must stop every half an hour to 45 minutes and give the bike a little rest. I follow that practice religiously but could someone please explain how it is beneficial? Shouldn't it just be better to let it idle for a while?

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                            On the positive side, once the payment is made, you can literally fork them left & right. After the payment is made and invoice is given, bike is legally yours and they are bound to comply with your demands. I didn't create too much of a hassle when they asked me to pay without examining the bike...but when they started playing around while assembling/delivering the bike, I gave them a piece of my mind.

                            Overall, my buying experience was Neutral at best. Yes, you won't feel like you are a privileged customer buying a flagship model, but then, it's better not to expect any such treatment from those guys. Thankfully my ASC experience has been positive so far :touchwood:
                            Aah. Hood old Honda guys at their best again. I'm getting the first oil change done today at 250kms to FS. And I can't bet they'll cook up stories to avoid doing the work.

                            Sent from my CBR 250R

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
                              Agreed.

                              I want to post a question though about the engine oils. Honda being Honda, should obviously know that Mineral oil is better than FS for the CBR's run in. Yet, they put in the FS as their stock oil. It makes you wonder that may be they must have put in their FS for a reason. Or could it just be the same old 'cheating the consumer' tale?

                              Secondly, I have heard that while breaking in, you must stop every half an hour to 45 minutes and give the bike a little rest. I follow that practice religiously but could someone please explain how it is beneficial? Shouldn't it just be better to let it idle for a while?
                              About your engine oil query, I would like to say that stick to company recommendations. I am reading this forum since 2009 and found more horror stories than good ones after playing with engine oils. Its possible that you will find something better but more chances are of being tossed up. Motul makes Yamalube as well but after putting same grade Motul in Yamahas they behave slugish. Peace of mind info is stick with stock oil and if you want reduce the drain intervals of the oil.

                              And stopping bike every 45 mins is necessary to save the engine from overheating. As rings, seals, valves, engine components are all new and can get damaged due to lack of proper clearances which creates high heat in intial run-in times. Take just 5-10 min brakes, I think thats no big deal as it will let you ride non stop all day later.

                              Sent from my ST25i
                              || My Doc says bhp is directly proportional to testosterone. I want more I want more .............. ||

                              2003 Bajaj Caliber 115 (SOLD)
                              2009 TVS Apache RTR 160
                              2012 TVS Apache RTR 180 (SOLD)
                              2013 Yamaha R15 V2.0 SE (SOLD)
                              2015 Yamaha Ray Z
                              2016 KTM RC390
                              2016 Triumph Street Triple

                              http://www.facebook.com/dinesh11051986

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by jhonmathews View Post
                                Agreed.

                                I want to post a question though about the engine oils. Honda being Honda, should obviously know that Mineral oil is better than FS for the CBR's run in. Yet, they put in the FS as their stock oil. It makes you wonder that may be they must have put in their FS for a reason. Or could it just be the same old 'cheating the consumer' tale?

                                Secondly, I have heard that while breaking in, you must stop every half an hour to 45 minutes and give the bike a little rest. I follow that practice religiously but could someone please explain how it is beneficial? Shouldn't it just be better to let it idle for a while?
                                I guess Honda knows this better than us, right? You may switch to mineral for the traditional way of running in, but its not needed actually. Stick to FS. These are modern engines bro. You can take your *brand new* bike to 120 on the way back home from the showroom.

                                The only trick is - how do you reach 120?

                                ^^^ That's the only line mentioned in the manual as well. (w.r.t run in)
                                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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