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Music to my ears. I too just absolutely am in love with that characteristic of our ride. One of the most road eager machines alive, just hates to be not riden, when it stands in the garage you can almost hear it whispering, begging for you to tuck in and press that button with a little lightening sign on it ! ...

This is actually a very interesting thing for bikers to be knowledgeable about and well said by theironhorse99 ... Our engines are primarily explosion containers... combustive explosions produce a lot of heat... heat expands metals... so its actually plain simple sense that one shouldn't force/quick cool the outside where it can mean the outside engine casing contracts faster than the piston inside... which traditionally results in the piston getting stuck (engine seized)... People who still own a 'cast iron engined bike' will surely know about this phenomenon through experience - Leaving the bike on idle for a minute after riding hard, slow pace increments before riding that hard, removing gloves to check engine temps by patting the engine etc are all common experiences for them... they're just trying to aid uniformity in heat dispersion.

So basic rule however is to always aid in the engine getting hot and cool uniformly in all components, manufacturers usually design the heat conduction in a way that uniformity in heat dispersion is achieved, giving longer life to engines eventually... especially on liquid cooled ones

... so as a guideline for all, as mentioned, don't pour down water immediately after riding, let your machines cool a bit.

oh and one last thing....

Did you know Soichiro Honda, the father of Honda Automobiles was rejected when he applied for a job at Toyota? #inspiringFact

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never in regular riding .... just once when i took the delivery from the showroom as cbr's were pretyt new to the folks and they had no idea what & how..

good that toyota rejected him.. toyota making no motorcycles.. we have Honda's now...
sometimes people miss out on the basics while always claiming for the best upkeep for their vehicles..

i still remember old cd100's and splendors doing 100,00 km without issues. they would look dirty but those people really taught be basics...
service on time..
no prolonged usage of engine above 80% capacity.
no hot wash.
don't keep changing engine oil's brands..
and keep the bearings and brake clean..

most of the problems are covered..


the best of cbr i liked was its a damn good offroader without any niggles.. i am eagerly awaiting some company to launch a off road tyre for
140/70 or 150/70 and i'd be their first customer.. this will kill anything then.. this thing pulls 2 up on a 45 degree incline at 2,000 rpm without a hitch
we just need to learn how to play with the clutch.. i wanted to trade the cbr for a ninja 650 next year..

but now looking at the ease and low cost of maintenance + amazing touring capacity+ FE to die for a 250.... i ain't selling it before i hit at least 80k on the Odo.. now sitting at 25k..

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You said it man. Seriously. I lost my way up in Gokarna once and trail rode this thing on the factory installed Contis... you can literally belt this thing on gravel, its well balanced... imagine i have a non-abs ride so i can literally ride on dirt.

Stronger wheel rims and dirt rubber for this baby... I'd be their second customer... surely. Was actually trying to see if some brand even manufactures semi trail tyres even for this size but nope. Damn.

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completely agree on this part.. i was always apprehensive about offroading this thing as never did this much off roading for days together that too in ice cold water and snowfall..
but now that i have tested a cpl of tyres.. i am in absolute love with Dunlop Tuffgrip for offroading.. IMO its the best tyre for offroading from the current crop of tyre available for this size..

ceat and other brands have off road tyres but nothing above 120/130.. such a shame for a country this big we cant find tyres for bikes selling in lakhs of unit.. cbr/ninja/ktm..
nothing available for off roading.. but then the tread of dunlop gave me immense help in slush.. bull dropped a few times.. even the ktm 200 skid and the impluse was showing lack of power.. this thing was flying...


the major test i did for CBR was at tanglang-la pass.. 3r highest pass at 17,500 ft.
one side after moore plains is complete trye shredding gravel for like 10 km's and dust and then another 10km of knee deep horrible slush followed by ice cold water and boulders..

while others were doing 40's i was doing 70+ pinned throttle and WOT in 1-3rd gear.. this thing was just throwing gravel making a dust cloud behind but the tyre never left the ground. and in the slush while other bikes, cars were going sideways.. i happily kept going at speeds of 30's in one straight direction.. slush was the most easiest part of that pass and trust me.. it was indeed knee deep loose slush.. i wrong judgement and you'd be all brown in a moment..

once we crossed tang-lang la and good roads started i was actually shredding the tyres.. 90-110 and even the chicken stripes wore off.. the machine din't break a sweat.. i was living a proper hollywood movie.. leaving a rubber trail behind me for i was pushing it so hard.. scrapped my knee pads at 2 places and tyre was hot with the brakes smelling before i gave it a break at rumze... and same thign happened while we returned..

the only difference was the range rover guy offended me and i gave him some taste of motorcycling on FI bike.. which would still redline at 17,000 feet without missing a beat.. running with a completely mucked radiator and wet tyres..


this whole story happened amidst rain and snowfall and temperature below 0 for most of time during that part of the day.. everything cannot be captured in pictures but then i have tales and stories and incidents stored as it is in my mind and a lifetime to tell others what happened in those crazy 17 days...

i will be back.. there is something about those mountains...

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As I'm new to biking not very much sure about engine oil changing and all, but I found on manual it should be changed at 6K. Now I heard from a lot of people they change / top up oil at approx 2K or less. But the difference is they own FZ or similar segment bikes.

Yesterday was reading some article which stated that these bikes don't have oil filter, so need frequent oil change, but the same story is not applicable for CBR.

Is that correct ?

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its not about the Oil filter but the type of OIL...
we use FS ( Full Synthetic) and those bikes use mineral oil..
since the time i started riding when i was 12 odd and now been 15 years its always been mineral oil in India atleast for 99% of the vehicles and thus the low range
ideally 2k for motorbikes and 2.5-3k for automatic scooters..

now that we use FS which has a very high burning point and are resistant to heat and with the technology evolved these oils last upto 6k easily.
anyone can use FS in regular bikes and they will have a higher OIl change interval however there is a catch. our bikes are liquid cooled and hence manintain
similar temperatures across the spectrum which additionaly helps keeping the oil in better state for longer duration in air cooled bikes due to uneven cooling the
oil burns at diffrent rates and the viscocity and stickiness is lost quickly.

so we have Mineral oil : 2k change , Semi Synth- 2.5-4k change , Full synth 5k-9k change.. depending on vehicle and usage..
these are all theoretical facts and values change as per usage..

if you ride WOT all day through and keep the bike in power band all the time and running mineral oil. i would suggest you change oil at 1k itself and vice versa..

also these bikes are pretty sophisticated compared to normal carbed bikes with 2 valves and hence oil needs better filtering. so OIL filter to collect all debris/junk etc to keep engine healthy for a longer time..

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was this the first time you got a 40+ avg??? I have done 4 rides to the hills with Falcor ( I named my CBR ) and every time it returned a FE around 37 to 40 kmpl. The latest ride to Naranda, it returned an avg of around 38 kmpl even after ripping it continuosly at 65 - 70 kmph in 2nd/3rd gear. The best fe i got was during my ride to Rishikesh...around 42 kmpl.

Honda always strikes a perfect balance between power and fe. I love it but only because of the poor service quality, I am thiking of canging my ride.


Was that a N250 or N300 because I am seriously considering N300 as my next bike.

Same confusion in my mind as well a used N650 or new N300 or carry on with CBR...btw I have also done 23k in less than 2k.

I am eagerly waiting for your traavelogue so that I could draw some inspiration.


NOTE : Hey guys...I have created a new thread just to share our ride's pics and share our love for it. Please do pour in your contributions. Here is the link : http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/kicks-n-...a-cbr250r.html

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Even my other freinds suggested N650 to N300. Atleast have witnessed the Kawa people are responsive out here. Also would suggest to put in the link to your travelogue here, so that we don't have to search it

Also you have a pm.

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Even my other freinds suggested N650 to N300. Atleast have witnessed the Kawa people are responsive out here. Also would suggest to put in the link to your travelogue here, so that we don't have to search it

Also you have a pm.

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will add the link here bro .. and to be true moving from a 250 .. i would never suggest a 300 or a 390.. 650 is what you should look for however as a general thumb rule
for me to change a bike is at least ride is 50k .. not for the resale but all of us get more mature as good responsible riders.. i would say ride it for another year or so and then
pick up N650 by then cb650F should hit indian shores as well..

coming years riders are in for treat in india

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In the mean time if 400R or 500R hit Indian market you people can change your mind..

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400/500 will still be sitting somewhere between ninja 300 and 650 prices.. somewhere like 4.5L odd as far as i know if Honda is bang on with the pricing strategy.

500 makes 50 hp and bang on between 300/650 and kills the price gap between 2. however i would still opt for a 70-80 bhp machine for 4L with 15-20k on odo..
far better deal.. trust me... with all these machine coming it.. the resale value will drop further...as newer bikes will be accessible for lesser price..

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What do you feel about 250R resell value after 1 year when 250 segment will get a bit of crowd. And generally whats the expected amount for a ABS model with 1 or 2year of usage.

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250 club is definitely getting cluttered however Honda lives up to the name or reliability and boring bike ( no issues). a 2 y old mint maintains CBR ABS wille easy sell for 1.4
and non abs for 1.10 odd.. yet with time the prices will fall but then that's pretty much bound to happen...

thats one reason i want to go for pre-owned N650 as 600 cc market will soon heat up and prices will fall...

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Hello respected CBR Owners,

I'm searching for tyres and come across

MICHELIN 140/70 R17 Pilot Sporty coated 4.4K or something including fittings from a very trusted shop.

As shop claimed this one far better than stock ContiGo. When asked he quoted it is medium compound , not a soft compound....Is it any good.

As well ContiGo quoted 3.5k+.

Being Exclusive MRF Outlet they are suggesting not to opt for any MRF tyre for CBR bike.

As suggested by theironhorse99 when I asked about Dunlop Tuff Grip 140/70 R17 they said Dunlop stopped producing that tyre....Is it true ?

Now please let me know if this Michelin pilot sporty any good ? or stick to contigo ?