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No man its not engine problem its something to do with electricals. Get the battery checked at exide outlet ang check the terminals also. Is the replaced battery specs same as oe battery? Try running the bike again with old battery if its with you and not dead.

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Yes... The Battery spec is the same as OEM battery, According to Exide showroom This XPTZ-7 is the retail version of OEM ETZ-7.

Though the negative (-) side of the terminal / cable -plate got some white sediment / powder accumulated, Wipe them off and greased. Let See.

It Looks like... When the RPM gets drooped like Stopping at signal or taking turn the engine suddenly cut off and it never going to start at that moment. After Engine cut off when Cranking the RPM needle try to move from Zero but failed. No reboot or anything. (AFAIK if there is a dead /discharge battery at this point the whole system will reboot - Engine Mal function light come on off as well neutral / LCD display)

After this incident as of now at my home I tried at-least 17-20 start up without charging the battery or anything and every time Engine came to life just in a sec...not a single missed crank. If I go to SVC it will very hard to prove. Battery maintained quite healthy voltage level as I mentioned in my previous post.

Engine Shut/Cut just a KM from home is quite understandable but after cruising almost 40km, again shut down is quite scary..it is my luck that in both time I'm at wake-able distance from my home.

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Anyone Ever experienced this ? Is there any sensor is failing ? Is it a failure of ECU ?

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Go and have a talk with Cloud9 CBR mechanic Utpal da. He might help you.

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its neither engine failure.. neither battery gone bad case.. it can be as small as ground wire loose or bad contact at battery terminals..
also check the fuses and any signs of oxidation on copper contacts..

also keep lights and indicators off while cranking the engine.. keeping electricals on overloads the battery and other electrical...

cbr random shut down issues are well knows worldwide however the lights and other systems should function as normal without any glitch.

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My CBR runs 3000 kms after last engine oil change. Now I can see the engine oil is below the lower level. Can I topup with oil and replace it after more 2 or 3K km as Honda recommends to change after 6K limit.

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And how are you checking the engine oil level? Are you sure you doing it exactly as mentioned in the manual??

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As mentioned in manual checking from the inspection window.

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Thanks for the pointing out, but one time I'm there for OIL Filter & Mirror Screw which is out of stock there, couple of dressed mech came to see my bike as it is Silver one as they never saw one & One official among the group commented It is a very old model and there is no spare available this discontinued model.

Thanks for your comment theironhorse99,

I never ever start the engine with any Electrical consumption be it this Bike or Car.

Even at CBR during Engine start I don't use breaks as this consume the 20 watt of break light. Yesterday I was just checking.

OMG..... CBR 250 Net Forum got a dedicated thread about this..They got the video at first page and my problem is exactly same when the need of slow down-> after pulling the clutch ->shifting to lower gear -> Engine cut Off. Only difference is there my engine don't start in the next crank or after that or next one .....when it happen. All electrical working fine light/blinker/horn....only engine refuse to start.

And it seems there is no solution as of yet... after 18,000 KM in almost 3 years I'm into this

Today I'll check the fuse box according to manual, mine is Non ABS so fuse hopefully not be complicated one.

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bike should be upright and engine fairly warmed up and then shut down.. oil little below half way mark is fine...

i have been active on cbr250.net since times.. and this random shut down is normal.. i have it too.. but then once a blue moon.
what i understand is as cbr is tuned to run lean and more focused towards more kmpl the ECU cuts of supply at lower rpm's while de-accelerating.
now if the fuel injector is choked/dirty the atomizer sometimes might not give needed fuel to run and bike shuts down. however your electricals going dead is something that should not happen.

if electricals are good and your bik is not cranking. just pull the acclerator half way through and then crank.. it will come to life in first 2-3 seconds.. i have had these things and figured out the solution. the quality of fuel is bad everywhere in India in general. get the injector cleaned and used something like system-G .. things should be better in future....

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Yes, they do not have parts and other thing all the times. Recently I visited them for 3rd service and found Honda throttle engine oil is out of stock while the same is available at Dugar. Which SVC do you generally use at Kolkata ?

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I regularly visit Shiva Wheels which is near Dunlop...Once in Todi long time ago when their SVC situated behind their showroom, Now they moved it. No idea about the place and it is far from my home.

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Checked all five RED colour 10A fuse under rear seat and they are all in good shape...only one blown fuse which sits in spare...huh ! Sure it replaced by someone at SVC.

Though Green 30A fuse near Air Filter port is also in good condition as well spare 30A is Intact too.

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Another problem, I like to seek opinion about it, It is continuing for nearly 1 year now.

Rear Contigo tyre loose AIR no matter what and reading came below 10/9 PSI , Every week it need to Top UP where earlier it was good to go for 1 month or even more.

There is only one very small nail is there, checked with Tyre repair shop and he suggest it is not good idea to remove that small nail...better continue.

I checked myself with water sparing the surface of the nail (Now it is hardly visible) as well Air Feeling Nozzle...there is no leakage as well no water bubble.

Tyre is in good condition...what to do ?

Any suggestion...

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If there is a small nail it wont loose air all the time. But whenever that portion of tyre is in contact with road minor air loss will take place resulting in low pressure after a week or so as you said. Only solution is to take out the nail and get the puncture repaired.

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So I headed out to the market inquiring about the CBR and well Honda is just keen on offering us Activas. Here goes my sordid tale.

Learnt the Om Sai place at Malad, shut shop. Called Pritam Honda. Thought I will ask for directions. A lady picks up.

Me: Hello madam, aapke yaha ka koi landmark batayenge?
Lady: Sir aapka naam aur number jaan sakti hu?
Me: Kyu?
Lady: Sir inquiry ke liye.
(Miffed I blabber it out. Lady forgets I had called for directions).
Lady: Sir aapne Activa ke liye phone kiya hai?
Me: Nahi directions ke liye!
(Too miffed I ditch the directions and ask the phone to be handed over to a senior).
Senior: Ha sir?
Me: Mujhe directions chaiye, batayenge please. Aapki Activa baadme offer karna!
(Senior gives directions).
Me: Aapke paas CBR250R hai?
Senior: No sir!
Me: Test ride bhi nahi hai?
Senior: No!
Me: Kamaal hai, workshop me koi bike hai dekhne ke liye?
(Senior murmurs to his minions).
Senior: No sir!
Me: Kamaal hai, display me nahi, forget test ride. Acha waiting kya hai?
Senior: No idea sir, maybe 40 din.
Me: Thank you.

Next day get a call from them, this time a sales guy.

Sales guy: Sir aapne Activa ke liye inquiry ki thi?
Me: No. Aap log Activa ke alava aura kuch bechte ho ke nahi?
Keep the phone. :S

Considering there could be a new dealer, decided to give it another try. Found one at SakiNaka. Called up the main guy.

Me: CBR250R dekhni hai, test ride milegi?
Main guy: Ha sir, hain na, milegi kyu nahi!

(Bolstered by the positive talk I move forward and end up at the showroom in no time).

As I found the place, the security put me off. Even though I parked my bike in an appropriate spot he asked me to move it away. Angry, I kept the bike and told him have come to check the CBR not the Activa. Guy falls back with a sorry smile. Entering the showroom, I spot the old tricolour version standing. A frail looking bloke greets me, 'Yes sir, how can I help you?'

Me: I want a test ride of the CBR250R.
Salesman: Sorry sir, no test ride for the same!
Me: Strange, I spoke with your owner just a while back and he said it is there.
Salesman: Let me check(befuddled!!).
(He comes back and readies the bike. I grow happy. Takes it out and waits. I too walk out and get ready. To my surprise...)
Salesman: Sorry sir, battery down hai. Aap wait karo, main mechanic ko bulakar charge karvata hu.
Me: Kamaal hai yar! Stupefied I walk in nodding my head.
(I looked at the ready CBR150R and walked out).
Me: Yeh bike pe milegi jab tak yeh theek hoti hai?
Salesman: Ha sir, why not!
(Hop on the 150 and off we go. The bike doesn't have mirrors and the switch gear is of pathetic quality. No pass light! Jeez. The only comforting thing in the summer was the seat, upright riding position and that tank. Somehow managed to ride and came back.)

Me: Ho gai charge?
Salesman: No sir, kuch issue lagta hai.
(I knew it. Try to solace myself by checking the bike out. Ask him the nitty-gritty's and move back in).

We sit down with the papers, pricing etc.

Me: Kya waiting hai? I am looking at the Repsol edition or the Red one with ABS.
Salesman: Sir Repsol I can't guarantee, but otherwise 40 days.
Me: Why so much? Aren't people buying the bike?
Salesman: They are sir, but the non-ABS version.
Me: Can I talk to your senior whom I spoke over the phone?
Salesman: Sure sir!(And heads off to get him).
Senior: Yes sir, how can I help you?
Me: Yar itna waiting kyu...blah blah?!
Senior: Sir Repsol edition to company bhejti hi nahi aur ABS version me kuch issues chal rahe hai, company is sorting them out. Why don't you buy the regular one. Aapko readily mil jayegi. ABS ki jarurat kaha padti hai?
Me: But you don't understand. I am into heavy riding and touring. I need ABS.(And I try to make him understand the need for ABS.)
Senior: Sir then ek kaam karo, aap regular le lo. Fir jab ABS ka lot aayega tab jo 1000-1500 exchange ho main karva dunga. Honda bike hai, resale achi milegi.
(I humbly refuse the offer).
Me: Aapka service center kaha hai?
Senior: Powai me hai.
Me: Yar ye to panga hai, too far for me.
Senior: But sir aap samajhte nahi. Main bike aapko bech raha hu, matlab main Maa barabar hu. Maa apne bachcho ka dhyan rakhti hai. Uske liye, aap thoda stretch karo, meri guarantee aapko best service milegi.
Me: Ha I understand.
(I thank him for the time and take his number).
All the while I don't even get asked for water, forget tea. Thank God they didn't offer the Activa!

Later that evening the sales chap calls me.

Salesman: Sir, I am speaking from Honda, aap dopahar ko aye they!
Me: Yes, whats up?
Salesman: Sir by any chance did you take the 150R's key along?
Me(smack my head): No I didn't.
Salesman: Okay, thank you sir.

Too miffed I come back and write a mail to Honda. Next day get a call from some dealer in Vasai which falls outside Mumbai.

Dealer: Sir I have all the ABS bikes in all colours.
Me: Wow, but I would still like to have a test ride.
Dealer: Sir let me check with my senior and get back to you.(And he never gets back!)

Next day he calls.

Dealer: Sir what have you thought about the bike?
Me: First get me a test ride then we will talk. Also, since you are out of Mumbai, won't tax & Octroi apply on the final price?
Dealer: Maybe sir, not sure about it. My owner has gone out, shall ask them and get back to you.
Me: Alright, please do. Thanks!

And the man never called back.

I get to travel to Gujarat and chance upon a Honda showroom there. Decide to give it one last try and walk in. Luckily, they have a bike but it is too hot to take a ride. Still I walk in to be greeted by a salesman.

Me: Awesome bike, whats the features, and how much is the waiting period?
Salesman(doesn't know anything, calls another guy).
Other salesman: Yes sir this is a blah blah blah.
Me: Alright and how is this better than other xyz bikes?
Salesman(doesn't know the other bikes and calls another guy!)
The other other salesman thankfully knows things well and answers me patiently.
They take my number and I bug off!

If such are the sales, how will be the service? Is this the same thing with Honda across all India? It is SO demoralising for anyone who wants to purchase a Honda. The treatment I received as I walked into a Yamaha showroom the next day inquiring about the R25 was the opposite. They knew what kind of customer they had, heard me patiently, offered water, even tea for that matter and took my inquiry on the same. So much so I got enticed to purchase the R15!

I really feel bad for Honda. But well they are here just to sell Activa and Unicorns. But seriously, you need to do something. The competition is just moving ahead briskly. For that much money I really don't mind buying a Karizma again. At least I will get better attention and service from Hero. What logic are Honda trying to defy? Whatever that maybe, it is eating them at the same time!

So, there's a new adage now. Next time you walk into a Honda showroom, if you are lucky, you'll be offered water/tea/Activa!

"Sir aap kya lenge? Chai, paani ya Activa??"

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Thanks for the suggestion, Hopefully thats the sole reason of low PSI for my rear tyre.

Below is what it looks on Nov,2013....Now it is almost invisible. The Diameter of the nail is very small comparing to a Diameter of puncture repairing probe. Now my only concerns is, If I go for this repair how much it will hold up during High Speed of CBR? As well tyre also a Round Profile..Not like any other bike.

What is the exact method/recommended way to repair this ? By Drilling the spot and insert filler or remove the tyre from the Rim and insert adhesive sticker to the inner wall of the tyre and reinstall the tyre to the rim. (Last method suggested by the Car Tyre repair shop..I don't know it is applicable here)

If the Drill method used there will be a bigger hole than the nail.

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Tyre sealant is also an option here. Otherwise i think you should go with the traditional puncture repair for tubeless tyres.