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  • Originally posted by dishayu View Post
    It costs 10k now, it was 12k when it launched. And in all honesty, it's not as overpriced as you guys make it sound. I mean of course, it doesn't cost them anything to remap the ECU but you have to judge the value as opposed to what you get in return for your money. You get 3-4 extra bhp of peak power, 2 Nm extra peak torque (a 10-20% boost overall). You get a higher top speed without sacrificing the accelaration. It DOES affect the power band for smoother power delivery, lowers engine idle speed, and according to kiiru's returns 10% better fuel economy as well. I was going to get it soon but then Race Dynamics came out with their ECU box as well, so i'll check that out and see the VFM proposition there as well. It might just force kiiru's to lower the price of their remap as well. Let's see.

    is there any solid proof that there is true increase in the bhp upto 3-4?

    they have said they havent dyno'ed the bike yet then how come they can say there is an increase in the bhp??

    i do agree we can achieve more top end that is because of the removal of the rev limiter
    first even i was ready to get it remapped from KIIRUS , but after i heard about RD's ECU i gave it a second thought

    according to me spending just 10k for removal of rev limiter is waste of money without any solid increase in BHP

    this is just my point of view

    cheers
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    • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
      is there any solid proof that there is true increase in the bhp upto 3-4?

      they have said they havent dyno'ed the bike yet then how come they can say there is an increase in the bhp??

      i do agree we can achieve more top end that is because of the removal of the rev limiter
      first even i was ready to get it remapped from KIIRUS , but after i heard about RD's ECU i gave it a second thought

      according to me spending just 10k for removal of rev limiter is waste of money without any solid increase in BHP

      this is just my point of view

      cheers
      Nope, just second hand info from the internet and a few words from kiiru's owner in the comments section here :


      No dyno charts or anything, so it could be a complete hoax as well.

      Also, RD's ECU is going to cost around 15k, a friend of mine called and asked :P
      Last edited by dishayu; 10-23-2012, 11:55 AM.
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      • Originally posted by dishayu View Post
        Nope, just second hand info from the internet and a few words from kiiru's owner in the comments section here :
        2012 KTM Duke 200 gets a remap option by Indian tuning firm Kiirus Autosport, that pushes up the rev limiter to 11,700 rpm, in an ICB exclusive | IndianCarsBikes.in

        No dyno charts or anything, so it could be a complete hoax as well.

        Also, RD's ECU is going to cost around 15k, a friend of mine called and asked :P

        ive read that article long back
        provides necessary info regarding the re-mapping but when ive contacted the KIIRUS guys they were just saying increase is about 3bhp ( approximately)
        and i asked about dyno run , they said they havent done it yet
        that is where i found it a bit wierd

        and yes RD's ECU will cost 15k which has about 5 different maps
        and the bhp is going to be around 30bhp as said by RD itself
        still no concrete news as the product is till being tested
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        • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
          ive read that article long back
          provides necessary info regarding the re-mapping but when ive contacted the KIIRUS guys they were just saying increase is about 3bhp ( approximately)
          and i asked about dyno run , they said they havent done it yet
          that is where i found it a bit wierd

          and yes RD's ECU will cost 15k which has about 5 different maps
          and the bhp is going to be around 30bhp as said by RD itself
          still no concrete news as the product is till being tested
          30 bhp would be sweet indeed. I'm gonna go check it out as soon as they start offering test rides. It's not too far from my home.
          Last edited by dishayu; 10-23-2012, 06:56 PM.
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          Honda Dio : 2005-2012
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          • Originally posted by dishayu View Post
            30 bhp would be sweet indeed. I'm gonna go check it out as soon as they start offering test rides. It's not too far from my home.

            please do take a test ride and share ur experience
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            • guys just read ur comment about RD's ecu for the duke can you fill me in on that i am really interested in a remap either kirus or this one which ever is better thanks
              kirus is in mumbai where i stay where is RD's place

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              • guys facing a problem

                my bike gets stuck around 4K RPM in the 1st three gears

                its like some air is getting stuck and the the bike is out of fuel

                i changed the air filter recently and recently changed the petrol tank and its filter under warranty as the previous one was clogged with too much dust and impurities

                what could be the problem
                ??
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                • I heard Service Stations clean the chain with Diesel?

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                  • KTM 390 Duke details confirmed - to be unveiled next month!
                    by Adil Jal Darukhanawala Posted on 24 Oct 20121,322 Views Comments

                    Powered by a 375cc, 45PS motor and weighing only 150kg, the bike will hit dealerships by March 2013


                    The biggest news that hit Indian motorcycling this year was all about the KTM Duke 200 and the Bajaj Pulsar 200NS and while this is indeed a step in the right direction for the industry and enthusiasts, it is but the starting point for much more on the pleasure and leisure motorcycling theme which India has been crying out loud for.

                    The essence of all these things has got to be affordable performance and the KTM - Bajaj Auto duo are well on their way to further this line of thought. Both partners are well advanced with larger versions of their tarmac terrors, all new machines pushing the envelope using completely different approaches while employing the same building blocks. Last year at a KTM dealer conference in the U.S. there was speculation of an all new small sized machine for Europe and the US which was then tentatively badged as a KTM 350. Things have now moved ahead to a possible launch at EICMA, a.k.a. the Milan Motorcycle Show scheduled for mid-November this year.

                    The new motorcycle will in all probability be referred to as the 390 Duke, staying in line withKTM’s policy of naming its models like the 990 and the 690. Powering the 390 Duke will be a 375cc single-cylinder liquid-cooled 4-valve engine and feeding it will be an advanced fuel injection system. The basic framework of the 390 Duke will remain similar to its younger sibling, the 200 Duke, employing the same lightweight trellis frame, the gorgeously crafted lightweight swing-arm as well as the same suspension components provided by noted suspension specialists White Power or WP suspension as it is presently known. For sure there will be a scaled up frame and beefed up suspension components as also a revised wheelbase while everything will be enhanced to make the bike a pleasure to ride machine in keeping with KTM's 'ready to race' DNA.

                    As was also the case with the Pulsar 200NS, one saw the basic engine architecture in theKTM Duke 200 and so should also be the case for the next larger Pulsar which Bajaj Auto officials have oft mentioned without divulging details. The new engine is a large single cylinder liquid-cooled unit with twin overhead cam shafts operating a four valve head. This new unit is expected to deliver, wait for it, 45 genuine Austrian thoroughbreds and while this is top draw there is even more when you factor in the all-up weight of the motorcycle. It is expected that the new Duke 390 will tip the scales at just 150 kilos making for a staggering power-to-weight ratio of 300PS per tonne making it quite simply one of the best lightweight pocket rockets in the world! While other details are sketchy, especially as regards torque and transmission, much of it would be on proven lines and I for one expect a six-speed transmission and supple tuning to make for a very explosive mid-range followed by a near 200km/h capability.

                    The Duke 390 would also be built in India as are the 125 and 200 Dukes, at Bajaj Auto's state-of-the-art Chakan facility and exported the world over. When it would be able to hit markets will only be known after its launch but expect it to hit markets globally in the second quarter of 2013. We are fairly sure that this bike would also be sold in India, just around the Rs 1.8 to Rs 2.0 lakh price point and sporting such a price tag it surely has the wherewithal to move the market dynamics drastically, among all bike makers in the land.

                    Staying with market dynamics, expect more of a shake-up when the same 375cc unit gets the Bajaj Auto triple spark treatment while keeping its four-valve head and a single hoc as against the dohc set-up on the Duke to appear in a larger Pulsar! Also expect this larger proportioned Pulsar to manifest itself in both naked and full faired versions.

                    owered by a 375cc, 45PS motor and weighing only 150kg, the bike will hit dealerships by March 2013






                    However, there is also the tasty thought on what might be when My mind keeps going back to what Joseph Abraham had answered when I asked him if he could take the triple-spark plug layout to other multi-cylinder units and he had suggested a vee-twin was in the realm of possibility. Just think about a vee-twin sharing the cylinder dimensions of the Pulsar 200NS on a common crankcase and you end up with a 400! In this day and age of downsizing without lowering the performance quotient, this sort of an approach could be just the ticket for KTM and Bajaj to hit the ground running all over the world. Fancy thoughts or fact, only time will tell on the vee-twin concept but the next Duke 390 and the larger Pulsar are closer than one can comprehend. Also Read: KTM 200 Duke gets custom race livery


                    And while we are in the mood to break out some inside info on upcoming motorcycles, we might as well hand you some more dope on the next big thing in Indian two-wheeler market – the 300-400cc class. Joining the bigger KTM 390 Duke will also be some interesting new models in the same segment from other manufacturers, namely Yamaha, Honda and Kawasaki.
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                    • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                      and the bhp is going to be around 30bhp as said by RD itself
                      30 bhp along with the new ECU and big bore,
                      "In the coming months, another Indian tuning firm, RaceConcepts, in this case, will come out with a head job and a free flow exhaust for the KTM Duke 200. These mods will be designed to work closely with the RaceDynamics ECU, bumping up power figures up to 30 Bhp, which will make an already fast motorcycle even more rapid. "

                      As the website here suggests :
                      ICB Exclusive: RaceDynamics all set to launch a remapped ECU for the KTM Duke 200 | IndianCarsBikes.in

                      I won't put in a big-bore and header job for sure- I wud just go for new ECU even if it ups the power by only 3 horses,I wud rather put on a Leo Vince for some more gains to put total output in around 30 horses.

                      KTM Duke 200 has a beautiful engine and there is no changing the internals.
                      And then I would use only premium fuel for longer life of my bike- or some octane booster chemicals along with unleaded,if I am touring into parts of India where PREMIUM BLEND IS NOT AVAILABLE.

                      Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                      guys facing a problem

                      my bike gets stuck around 4K RPM in the 1st three gears

                      its like some air is getting stuck and the the bike is out of fuel

                      i changed the air filter recently and recently changed the petrol tank and its filter under warranty as the previous one was clogged with too much dust and impurities

                      what could be the problem
                      ??
                      This thing has also occurred on my ride, usually after a sudden haul to top end in the higher gears.Then while riding slow, I face a similar problem.This one goes away if I rev the engine high and things get back to normal.
                      This problem do not occur if I accelerate properly through gears,It occurs only if I carry out a high speed roll-on for a short time.

                      My experience says, something to do with the fuel quality and octane rating of the normal fuel or a dying spark plug.
                      Also, thanks to the high speed Fuel injection on this Bike, it could be water or air-in the tank creating a vaccum in the injector shortly, when the bike starts consuming fuel at a high speed suddenly.

                      Finally, it is an issue with the fueling system even though there is no indication about a fuel pressure drop by the KTM's onboard computer !!!
                      Last edited by MACH50; 10-24-2012, 10:11 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                        30 bhp along with the new ECU and big bore,
                        "In the coming months, another Indian tuning firm, RaceConcepts, in this case, will come out with a head job and a free flow exhaust for the KTM Duke 200. These mods will be designed to work closely with the RaceDynamics ECU, bumping up power figures up to 30 Bhp, which will make an already fast motorcycle even more rapid. "

                        As the website here suggests :
                        ICB Exclusive: RaceDynamics all set to launch a remapped ECU for the KTM Duke 200 | IndianCarsBikes.in

                        I won't put in a big-bore and header job for sure- I wud just go for new ECU even if it ups the power by only 3 horses,I wud rather put on a Leo Vince for some more gains to put total output in around 30 horses.

                        KTM Duke 200 has a beautiful engine and there is no changing the internals.
                        And then I would use only premium fuel for longer life of my bike- or some octane booster chemicals along with unleaded,if I am touring into parts of India where PREMIUM BLEND IS NOT AVAILABLE.



                        This thing has also occurred on my ride, usually after a sudden haul to top end in the higher gears.Then while riding slow, I face a similar problem.This one goes away if I rev the engine high and things get back to normal.
                        This problem do not occur if I accelerate properly through gears,It occurs only if I carry out a high speed roll-on for a short time.

                        My experience says, something to do with the fuel quality and octane rating of the normal fuel or a dying spark plug.
                        Also, thanks to the high speed Fuel injection on this Bike, it could be water or air-in the tank creating a vaccum in the injector shortly, when the bike starts consuming fuel at a high speed suddenly.

                        Finally, it is an issue with the fueling system even though there is no indication about a fuel pressure drop by the KTM's onboard computer !!!
                        thats good even im ready to take the ECU only , the 200 CC bore kit is more than enough for me
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                        i usually rev the bike till 8-9K in the city and never found this problem
                        but it started only after i changed to new fuel tank

                        and i think its not the issue with the ECU because the problem was not there from the starting ,and it cropped up recently
                        so i think its nothing related to the ECU , Just my thought
                        .
                        its pretty annoying me , when even i twist the throttle it lags for about 2-3 seconds and then shoots away
                        will go the SVC tomorrow and find out about the problem
                        Last edited by hunkofgals; 10-24-2012, 10:44 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                          thats good even im ready to take the ECU only , the 200 CC bore kit is more than enough for me
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                          i usually rev the bike till 8-9K in the city and never found this problem
                          but it started only after i changed to new fuel tank

                          and i think its not the issue with the ECU because the problem was not there from the starting ,and it cropped up recently
                          so i think its nothing related to the ECU , Just my thought
                          .
                          its pretty annoying me , when even i twist the throttle it lags for about 2-3 seconds and then shoots away
                          will go the SVC tomorrow and find out about the problem
                          Just my two cents.. check if the fuel pump is pumping fuel with proper pressure.. that may be the case i feel. Is it only happening at a specific rpm or happening at all rpms regardless of when you use sudden throttle? may be some sensors are lose or not connected properly during the tank change. Or the throttle position sensor is not sending correct electrical impulse to the ECU..

                          I would definitely suggest RD ECU over Kiirus mapping.. as for the price of 3k more if Kiirus maps are still 12k.. you are getting 5 switchable maps.. in greedy indian terms More value for Money spent!!

                          Cheers,
                          Last edited by shv18; 10-24-2012, 10:53 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                            will go the SVC tomorrow and find out about the problem
                            Please let us know what caused the issue..........wud help rectifying mine atleast
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                            • would an iridium spark plug help burn our fuel better..like since we cant get the octane level..if we get a plug that could burn what we have better..would it work? just a thought..oh and also..if it is a better option ..wont we have to change the cable as well to a high intensity one? and which plug would work better the ngk or ows...(so many questions..such little time..) <_<
                              Last edited by Giles; 10-25-2012, 04:19 AM.

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                              • Okk ..False neurals coming up now...not good.
                                happend few times now.
                                also the MFD fluctuates a lot also 80kph at mfd doesnt feels so much 80kph as in actual.
                                Please help with how to get tubless tyre puncture repair. The usual problem while touring.
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