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**Evander_F** · 01-08-2014, 07:41 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by nirvan View Post

I've changed the brake pedal to the newer one that incorporates a roller cage; need to change the gear pedal as well.

My bikes are parked in my verandah which is ~3 feet off the ground. There's a slope leading to ground level and a short ride to my gate. I'm used to starting the bike and letting it roll until the gate in neutral, sort of to aid warm-up. However, I find that the Duke has a marked resistance to roll, it slows down noticeably and almost does not coast to the gate. My RX100 and Impulse and even an N650 are happy to roll and actually pick up speed, but the Duke slows. My mech says all Dukes are plagued by this, wheels at both ends do not rotate as freely as they probably should. I've checked out a few other bikes at the workshop and this seems to hold good with them all. Anyone feel this too?

Roller cage? any pictures to describe it?

About the rolling resistance, my Duke just freely rolls down a slope. You need to check the bearings maybe.

**nirvan** · 01-08-2014, 10:41 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Evander_F View Post

Roller cage? any pictures to describe it?

About the rolling resistance, my Duke just freely rolls down a slope. You need to check the bearings maybe.

I don't have pictures, the new pedals have a set of bearings (more like a roller cage) between them and the shaft they sit on.

**Ri$hi** · 01-09-2014, 10:38 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by nirvan View Post

My bikes are parked in my verandah which is ~3 feet off the ground. There's a slope leading to ground level and a short ride to my gate. I'm used to starting the bike and letting it roll until the gate in neutral, sort of to aid warm-up. However, I find that the Duke has a marked resistance to roll, it slows down noticeably and almost does not coast to the gate. My RX100 and Impulse and even an N650 are happy to roll and actually pick up speed, but the Duke slows. My mech says all Dukes are plagued by this, wheels at both ends do not rotate as freely as they probably should. I've checked out a few other bikes at the workshop and this seems to hold good with them all. Anyone feel this too?

Even I had the same question in mind. Spoked wheels roll freely comparing to alloy wheels. I am thinking that alloy wheels are heavier and that might be the reason. I am Yet to check how it rolls in neutral with me seated on it. I have only checked it when the bike is on centre stand during cleaning and the wheel doesn't roll freely.

PS: Its not a good practise to roll in neutral as there is no engine braking. You could engage gear and make use of the engine braking. Warm-up the engine for a min or two before taking off.

**Ankitvile** · 01-09-2014, 11:04 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Ri$hi View Post

Duke 200 FMSCI homologation form. http://www.fmsci.co.in/2012/2whomo/K...CI%20final.pdf

I was looking for the gear ratios of duke 200, I was not able to find it on the KTM site or on the manual. Finally got the info from the above link. On the page no 11, it has the gear ratios and the sixth gear is an overdrive. So people looking for a relaxed cruise on the highways can just alter the secondary drive.

Thanks for the link. Quite and insider.
And top gear on bikes/cars are always over-geared or tall geared (You here say as an overdrive which you meant figuratively...literally/technically its different.) And people have been doing so.... altering their secondary drives (aka Sprocketing!!)....

**Ri$hi** · 01-09-2014, 11:16 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Ankitvile View Post

(You here say as an overdrive which you meant figuratively...literally/technically its different.)

May be I understood it incorrectly. Could You explain how exactly its different?

**Deathmate.Zed** · 01-09-2014, 07:15 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

Had 2nd fork oil seal leak today..got it fixed. Apparently KTM is fitting this rubber external rubber seal for better protection. Hope it helps..!

Buddy I had to change my oil filter five times!!! (Yes it broke 5 Times

)

The first time i paid for the oil, the second time i paid for everything but then i had enough! I buzzed the KTM chief engg directly and rapped him for this unreliable issue of oil seal breakage in such short intervals. Iafter that all the remaining oil seal changes were done free of cost. In fact for the last oil seal breakage i got the entire front fork assemble changed! That would have costed me 22000 bucks if i would have been paying from my pocket!!

Did not face it till now (done about 10K kms since)

My suggestion to all the Dukers facing this problem is to rap the chief engg directly with the line "Why do you sell bikes that cannot stand the indian road conditions" :P

On a serious note, KTM should be approached for a recall of these exposed USD forks on old Duke 200s and get them replaced with the oil seal protectors found on the 390 Duke for free. Come'on we bought your bike when it was launched and boosted your sales. Time to pay us some respect for our loyalty! What say xBHP??

**wallpapers123** · 01-09-2014, 09:34 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post

Buddy I had to change my oil filter five times!!! (Yes it broke 5 Times

)

The first time i paid for the oil, the second time i paid for everything but then i had enough! I buzzed the KTM chief engg directly and rapped him for this unreliable issue of oil seal breakage in such short intervals. Iafter that all the remaining oil seal changes were done free of cost. In fact for the last oil seal breakage i got the entire front fork assemble changed! That would have costed me 22000 bucks if i would have been paying from my pocket!!

Did not face it till now (done about 10K kms since)

My suggestion to all the Dukers facing this problem is to rap the chief engg directly with the line "Why do you sell bikes that cannot stand the indian road conditions" :P

On a serious note, KTM should be approached for a recall of these exposed USD forks on old Duke 200s and get them replaced with the oil seal protectors found on the 390 Duke for free. Come'on we bought your bike when it was launched and boosted your sales. Time to pay us some respect for our loyalty! What say xBHP??

5 times??!!
I can only hope that doesn't happen to anyone. They only put the external rubber seal on one side. The SVC mechanic said we'll change the other side when and if it leaks(he was pretty sure that it'll leak soon)
Actually buzzing KTM via mail is quite effective. I had some engine oil leak near the cylinder head, buzzed KTM and the SVC manager himself contacted me and kept calling to make sure it's fixed..!!
Thankfully it was just the 4 nuts on top the head that were loose

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**Deathmate.Zed** · 01-09-2014, 10:49 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

5 times??!!
I can only hope that doesn't happen to anyone. They only put the external rubber seal on one side. The SVC mechanic said we'll change the other side when and if it leaks(he was pretty sure that it'll leak soon)
Actually buzzing KTM via mail is quite effective. I had some engine oil leak near the cylinder head, buzzed KTM and the SVC manager himself contacted me and kept calling to make sure it's fixed..!!
Thankfully it was just the 4 nuts on top the head that were loose

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Well I had shot them a very precise n long email but the work got done only after contacting the service engg directly. Guess they are replying to emails regularly now..good thing

**sanjana k** · 01-09-2014, 11:18 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post

Buddy I had to change my oil filter five times!!! (Yes it broke 5 Times

)

The first time i paid for the oil, the second time i paid for everything but then i had enough! I buzzed the KTM chief engg directly and rapped him for this unreliable issue of oil seal breakage in such short intervals. Iafter that all the remaining oil seal changes were done free of cost. In fact for the last oil seal breakage i got the entire front fork assemble changed! That would have costed me 22000 bucks if i would have been paying from my pocket!!

Did not face it till now (done about 10K kms since)

My suggestion to all the Dukers facing this problem is to rap the chief engg directly with the line "Why do you sell bikes that cannot stand the indian road conditions" :P

On a serious note, KTM should be approached for a recall of these exposed USD forks on old Duke 200s and get them replaced with the oil seal protectors found on the 390 Duke for free. Come'on we bought your bike when it was launched and boosted your sales. Time to pay us some respect for our loyalty! What say xBHP??

Hey how can i contact the ktm chief engg bcoz for the last 8-9 months i have been facing a lot of suspension issues and i feel my bike is very bouncy as even on real good roads my bike seems to bounce a lot n on concrete roads my bike literally goes crazy as it feels abnormally unstable n bouncy and i get a feel as if my duke has no kind of suspension setup in it at all. I have already put in quite a lot of efforts n money to solve my problem n have tried everything like-removing air from forks+replacing tbar+daily check on my air pressure+fork oil replaced twice but nothing seems to help. So i thnk the ktm chief engg can be my saviour as the service guys are of no great help bcoz they feel everything is perfect but i am very sure something is wrong as there is no proper damping movement on my forks as even on real bad roads my forks hardly move up n down

**wallpapers123** · 01-09-2014, 11:21 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by sanjana k View Post

Hey how can i contact the ktm chief engg bcoz for the last 8-9 months i have been facing a lot of suspension issues and i feel my bike is very bouncy as even on real good roads my bike seems to bounce a lot n on concrete roads my bike literally goes crazy as it feels abnormally unstable n bouncy and i get a feel as if my duke has no kind of suspension setup in it at all. I have already put in quite a lot of efforts n money to solve my problem n have tried everything like-removing air from forks+replacing tbar+daily check on my air pressure+fork oil replaced twice but nothing seems to help. So i thnk the ktm chief engg can be my saviour

What sort of air pressure is in ur tyres..??
Bcoz mine seems to do the same with 29 front and 30 rear.(nitrogen that is.)

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**sanjana k** · 01-09-2014, 11:30 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

What sort of air pressure is in ur tyres..??
Bcoz mine seems to do the same with 29 front and 30 rear.(nitrogen that is.)

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I maintain 28 front and 30 rear(normal air)

**Doga** · 01-09-2014, 11:46 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

What sort of air pressure is in ur tyres..??
Bcoz mine seems to do the same with 29 front and 30 rear.(nitrogen that is.)

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isn't the front recommended pressure 25.5 ? correct me if iam wrong.

btw, today morning noticed a bit of oily substance on my exhaust pipe and engine. Was perplexed as to what the source can be. After a lot of inspection found a bit of smudge at the bottom of the tank. But the oily substance surely didn't look/smelled like petrol, it should have evaporated overnight if some had seeped out through, say a minute crack. Still not sure what it is. I'll visit the svc tomorrow or day after. Just when I thought the reliability gods are smiling on me here comes the next irritating visit to the svc.
Btw I have had two instances of fork seal leakage in my 24K interval. I am not keen on the boots for aesthetic reason. let's see when I get to eat my words after the next leakage

**wallpapers123** · 01-09-2014, 11:51 PM

KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Doga View Post

isn't the front recommended pressure 25.5 ? correct me if iam wrong.

btw, today morning noticed a bit of oily substance on my exhaust pipe and engine. Was perplexed as to what the source can be. After a lot of inspection found a bit of smudge at the bottom of the tank. But the oily substance surely didn't look/smelled like petrol, it should have evaporated overnight if some had seeped out through, say a minute crack. Still not sure what it is. I'll visit the svc tomorrow or day after. Just when I thought the reliability gods are smiling on me here comes the next irritating visit to the svc.
Btw I have had two instances of fork seal leakage in my 24K interval. I am not keen on the boots for aesthetic reason. let's see when I get to eat my words after the next leakage

Yea company recommended is 25 and 28 but with that pressure ive had a lot of punctures so sticking to the current combination of 27 and 29. As for the fork boots they are more like slippers rather than boots..:P hardly noticeable does not affect the bike's look at all.. As for the leak telling from my personal exp the leak might be around the cylinder head gasket plz do check the round rubber things on the side for oiliness..

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**Doga** · 01-09-2014, 11:54 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

Yea company recommended is 25 and 28 but with that pressure ive had a lot of punctures so sticking to the current combination of 27 and 29. As for the fork boots they are more like slippers rather than boots..:P hardly noticeable does not affect the bike's look at all.. As for the leak telling from my personal exp the leak might be around the cylinder head gasket plz do check the round rubber things on the side for oiliness..

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No, it's not the engine bhai, the engine head and the entire engine block is super clean(well almost), devoid of any leaks, touch wood. The smudge as I said is at the bottom of the tank, above the engine head

**wallpapers123** · 01-09-2014, 11:56 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Doga View Post

No, it's not the engine bhai, the engine head and the entire engine block is super clean(well almost), devoid of any leaks, touch wood. The smudge as I said is at the bottom of the tank, above the engine head

That's a relief don't worry might be a the fuel pump pipes are a bit loose

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