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  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by dukist View Post
    Something strange happened today while riding the duke 200, the throttle died in 3rd gear and a yellow warning light came up and bike came to stop. I started it and it worked fine after that . Anyone else faced an issue like this ?
    Something like this happened to me some days ago, was riding in a decently crowded traffic, when I upshifted from 2 to 3 at 4k+ rpm and bike shut off with console still lit up... couldn't able to look at the console to check any yellow light as such was turned on. I just cranked up and rode off... never faced this again so ignored then.
    Last edited by Srvn; 02-02-2014, 01:20 AM.

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    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

      Originally posted by Srvn View Post
      Something like this happened to me some days ago, was riding in a decently crowded traffic, when I upshifted from 2 to 3 at 4k+ rpm and bike shut off with console still lit up... couldn't able to look at the console to check any yellow light as such was turned on. I just cranked up and rode off... never faced this again so ignored then.
      Yes I guess It was a one time thing, but keeping an eye on it . There are little problems but still the most fun bike .

      One thing I didn't liked though, most of the people saying that these bikes are being produced in India so that's why they subpar in quality . I mean why demean our manufacturing ? I think we should be happy that companies have started to trust our manufacturing and have started to produce high-end products saving us those 100+ % import duties . Harley's will be manufactured in India only . Big names are trusting us and we should respect too .
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      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Originally posted by shv18 View Post
        Thanks abhimanyu31, that's exactly what i was trying to say. If the stock ECU has not been completely wiped out then upto certain extent the bike's ECU should be able to handle the variations in temperature, barometric pressure etc. Now since, there are no details given from KIIRIUS except better performance over stock, i am not sure how much room does the new map gives your bike to keep the AFR stoichometric i.e. ideal chocolate brown tan on the spark plug with the variations in environment. If you guys can contribute in clearing out these doubts when going for the long distance test run with the KIIRIUS remap, it would add something more to this discussion and at the same time we all can figure out the benefits and the possible drawbacks of remapping the stock ECU especially when taking touring/ long distance rides into consideration.I am still not done with hot roding of my FZ. Once i get bored then i shall decide which upgrade will make a better sense. So far, based on all the discussions taking place here, i guess:* A good condition KTM Duke 200 with lesser ODO readings 1 - 1.5 years: 90K* Rear Sprocket mod 40T/ 39T: 300 bucks* Proper preventive maintenance service & inspection (May include chain & sprocket replacement): 4 - 6 K* Brand new set of tires (If required): 6-7K* ECU Remap (if the results are positive from all our earlier testers) KIIRIUS/Motozone : 8K - 10K* MRA Naked sports bike touring Windshield: 8K* Renewal of Insurance (if required): 3k (i don't know what is the cost of the same for Duke)So keeping all things into perspective, Grand Total: Rs. 1,24,300/- would be the cost of owning a fully loaded 2nd hand Duke ready for touring (Not including the name and registration transfer costs and other miscellaneous expenses). In Mumbai there are enough good Parsi men who spare no expense in keeping their rides in pristine condition than anything else (No pun intended!! ). Probably looking for a good deal from them would be a start. Apache RTR FI system was crappy hence, you saw severe performance drop at higher altitudes. The same has not been the case with Yamaha R15s who went to Leh. But they were suffering from riding issues with the stock tires. @Samschenker: Thanks mate for your inputs . While i was chatting with PSR Ji on the same, he quickly sent me a few links to confirm that Duke 200 has an O2 bung/Lambda Sensor: 1) Bosch O2 Lamba Sensor: KTM 200 Duke Motorcycle O2 Sensor - MAGNUM Bike BOSCH O2 Oxygen Sensor Universal Wiring2) Dynojet PowerCommander set up for Duke 200: Dynojet Power Commander V suitable for a KTM 200 Duke (2012)So for riders with no limits on budget may be going for a PowerCommander will yield better performance results?? I am not sure but just sharing the link : Welcome to Power Commander Motorcycle Fuel Injection Tuning ModuleHope i am able to add something productive on this thread.Cheers,
        hi!! I am a duke 200 owner from mumbai.. i am looking to modify my rear sprocket with a 39T/40T but cant get the sprocket of karizma or P180...most of the service centres are giving full set...can you let me know where I can get the sprockets...

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        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

          How often do you guys get your tyres re-pressurized? And what's the average tyre pressure you guys maintain both in Front and in Rear. I get them filled every alternate week with 28Psi in front and 30Psi in rear.

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          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Originally posted by roysandeep82 View Post
            hi!! I am a duke 200 owner from mumbai.. i am looking to modify my rear sprocket with a 39T/40T but cant get the sprocket of karizma or P180...most of the service centres are giving full set...can you let me know where I can get the sprockets...
            You can check with any Rolon Dealer, they might have..


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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by Edd View Post
              How often do you guys get your tyres re-pressurized? And what's the average tyre pressure you guys maintain both in Front and in Rear. I get them filled every alternate week with 28Psi in front and 30Psi in rear.
              It's easier and convenient if you get it checked every time you refuel...

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by Sanchit Arora View Post
                It's easier and convenient if you get it checked every time you refuel...

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                So I was finally able to send Bajaj the gripe mail .
                Issues noted were:

                1) The high coolant temperature problem. It had gone for sometime as I had updated, but was again rearing its ugly head. IN traffic, at night the bars were all full and turning the lamp off would send them crashing back to normal region.

                2) The tank leak issue. Fuel was seeping out drop by drop especially when tank was near full capacity.

                3) Reduced acceleration. Bike feeling way sluggish after 80 in fourth gear

                4) Front brakes having less bite and also making a 'krrr' sound (as many also have complained about in various posts on this thread) when lever is engaged.

                5)Bike vibrating at higher rpms.

                Of this the tank leak issue was taken care of rather easily and promptly. It was replaced under warranty.

                The high coolant temperature issue was tracked to a malfunctioning fan which was strange because when Rehman initially diagnosed it the fan did turn on and off at the specified temp. I used to see the fan turn on.
                But may be there was indeed some issue as it turn on even when the temp reached 117 C on the diagnostic tool that day. When I asked the mech if fan is the culprit, then how come temp comes down when headlamp is turn off, he said that since the fan was not feeding on the voltage and winding was faulty the voltage was manifesting elsewhere(I personally didn't buy this, but the fan was indeed not working that day, so I kept mum)
                It was changed under warranty. I haven't experienced it turning on since and didn't bother to test.

                The sluggish pull was ascribed to gone clutch plates. Yes!! you read that right. My bike needs a 2nd replacement in 25K kms. And no I don't pull wheelies on the eastern expressway while riding to office. Unbelievable parts quality from bajaj. Hats off!

                The brakes were lacking bite and making that 'krrr-fluid pumping' sound was because of a slightly bent disc and rim. The bend was sustained when I had a minor accident a few months back and the insurance agent refused to replace mag/disc since it was not much of a bend(very minor barely noticeable) and the ride quality was unaffected(which is in fact true, I don't find any difference). So when the pads try sticking to the disc, owing to the uneven surface of the disc, the sound is emanated.

                The vibe issue was sorted by retorquing the nuts, which I am sure means tightening 3-4 nuts which hold the footpeg :P
                Last edited by Doga; 02-04-2014, 03:18 AM.
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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by Doga View Post
                  So I was finally able to send Bajaj the gripe mail .
                  Issues noted were:

                  1) The high coolant temperature problem. It had gone for sometime as I had updated, but was again rearing its ugly head. IN traffic, at night the bars were all full and turning the lamp off would send them crashing back to normal region.
                  This is a false alarm. The actual temperature is normal but the bars display something else. This is caused by weak grounding between the engine (by extension, the temp sensor) and GND. Check all grounding wires that are bolted on to the chassis/engine.
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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                    This is a false alarm. The actual temperature is normal but the bars display something else. This is caused by weak grounding between the engine (by extension, the temp sensor) and GND. Check all grounding wires that are bolted on to the chassis/engine.
                    Yes, If you go back a few pages, I had in fact posted the same diagnosis. The screws at the ground points were tightened by the mech, but not all of them.
                    The fan was not working that day and he was absolutely convinced that the fan would be the solution. But I still see the temp bar movement is a function of the headlamp activity, meaning it goes up a bar when headlamp is turned on and comes back a bar when it is turned off.
                    So the grounding issue is still there.
                    I'll check the fan functioning today with the lamp and then see if the fan turns and the where the temp bars go.
                    It's frustrating. I'll push for a full electrical replacement from Bajaj. Let's see!!
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                    My Touring Logs-
                    French Riviera
                    https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/38345-biking-french-riviera.html
                    Scotland-
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...-3600-kms.html
                    France -Normandy and Paris on the CBR
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/3...adventure.html
                    KTM chronicles-
                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...hronicles.html

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by Doga View Post
                      Yes, If you go back a few pages, I had in fact posted the same diagnosis. The screws at the ground points were tightened by the mech, but not all of them.
                      The fan was not working that day and he was absolutely convinced that the fan would be the solution. But I still see the temp bar movement is a function of the headlamp activity, meaning it goes up a bar when headlamp is turned on and comes back a bar when it is turned off.
                      So the grounding issue is still there.
                      I'll check the fan functioning today with the lamp and then see if the fan turns and the where the temp bars go.
                      It's frustrating. I'll push for a full electrical replacement from Bajaj. Let's see!!
                      I am facing similar issue. One important observation was the fan speed(RPM) decreases significantly when the head lamp is switched ON and it takes longer to cool down the engine. They SVC is still investigating the problem, will update when I hear from them.

                      Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                      This is a false alarm. The actual temperature is normal but the bars display something else. This is caused by weak grounding between the engine (by extension, the temp sensor) and GND. Check all grounding wires that are bolted on to the chassis/engine.
                      This is a valid point; can a weak GND connection lead to fluctuating\reduced fan RPM?
                      Last edited by samschenker; 02-04-2014, 04:41 PM.

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by abhayshanu View Post
                        The 40T would be my personal choice. Even though you wouldn't get a very big difference between 39T and 40T in terms of Acceleration and Top speed, but that's the exact reason for the 40T suggestion. The 39T will give you much slower acceleration and you will be bored of the D200, but you will gain alot of highway high speed rideablility. So I would say go for the 40T, still pretty good highway highspeed rideablility and a not so slower acceleration. 40T is a Karizma sprocket and you should buy it from the Hero SVC, both chain and rear sprocket should be of karizma.On another note, now I am back to 43T as I rarely go on highway ride, mostly very very local ride. Nothing above 40-50 kmph. So didn't make sense to lose the fun D200 .Also as most of us know the rear mudguard really doesn't work well in rains and lets quite alot of muck on us from rear AND looks UGLY, I have cut it. This is how it will look for now, will cut it even more and remove these indicators too, will make indicator arrangements else where.[ATTACH=CONFIG]112871[/ATTACH]
                        hi!!! I need to change the sprocket and chain kit for my duke 200 and as suggested by you...i want to install the karizma rear sprocket...only have one more query... I am required to fit the chain and rear sprocket from karizma and the front sprocket ought to be d200...Is that right?? OR I am supposed to replace the entire chain sprocket kit of D200 by the karizma chain sprocket set...means front sprocket, chain and rear sprocket of karzma?? Pls let me know

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by roysandeep82 View Post
                          hi!!! I need to change the sprocket and chain kit for my duke 200 and as suggested by you...i want to install the karizma rear sprocket...only have one more query... I am required to fit the chain and rear sprocket from karizma and the front sprocket ought to be d200...Is that right?? OR I am supposed to replace the entire chain sprocket kit of D200 by the karizma chain sprocket set...means front sprocket, chain and rear sprocket of karzma?? Pls let me know
                          Only the Rear Sprocket and Chain of Karizma's, the front remains stock of Duke 200..

                          I hope it's clear...

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by roysandeep82 View Post
                            hi!!! I need to change the sprocket and chain kit for my duke 200 and as suggested by you...i want to install the karizma rear sprocket...only have one more query... I am required to fit the chain and rear sprocket from karizma and the front sprocket ought to be d200...Is that right?? OR I am supposed to replace the entire chain sprocket kit of D200 by the karizma chain sprocket set...means front sprocket, chain and rear sprocket of karzma?? Pls let me know
                            Originally posted by Sanchit Arora View Post
                            Only the Rear Sprocket and Chain of Karizma's, the front remains stock of Duke 200..

                            I hope it's clear...

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                            I would suggest to go for D200s Chain along with front sprocket as well, since karizma does not come with O-ring chain and has its chain covered, where as Dukes chain has O-ring and has no chain cover, hence so you may have the same life from the chain sprocket kit, else you may end up changing the entire kit sooner than expected even with regular cleaning and lubing.

                            Just my thought

                            Others may also pour their opinon on the above, and correct me if I'm wrong

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by Srvn View Post
                              I would suggest to go for D200s Chain along with front sprocket as well, since karizma does not come with O-ring chain and has its chain covered, where as Dukes chain has O-ring and has no chain cover, hence so you may have the same life from the chain sprocket kit, else you may end up changing the entire kit sooner than expected even with regular cleaning and lubing.

                              Just my thought

                              Others may also pour their opinon on the above, and correct me if I'm wrong
                              +1 to that.. I bought the entire chain sprocket kit of Duke200 and got a 39T rear sprocket from a Rolon dealer...

                              The tyre setting goes a little back but the Duke200s chain fits well..

                              Would suggest entire replacement than just the sprocket... :thumbup:

                              Off topic : I'll be in Delhi for a couple of days, if anyone knows from where can one get the swing arm spools and the front crash bobbins pls let me know...

                              Thanx in advance..

                              Cheers :beer:

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Well, finally touched 500 KM on my duke so felt like writing about the experience till now :

                                1. Gear shift is much smoother now, I am strictly following proper blip method and downshifting has no stress on the engine, kept the bike mostly under 65s and rarely clocked 70s with RPMs maxing to 5.5 and rarely 7+ because of N coming in between one and two gear. I do give some quick throttle sometimes times as it get impossible to control the adrenaline rush when you sit on this bike .

                                2. Gear 1 and 2 are really tight, by tight I mean the bike reacts rapidly to throttle movement and accelerates like a bullet in these two gears, I wish they were a little smoother by now.

                                3. Had a cut In the O ring leading to oil leak, got it replaced. Chain was tightened a bit.

                                4. Display shows 41-51 KMPL most of the times . I would say in moderate traffic it goes to 35ish, not below it.

                                5. No heat issues at all, No problems till now, I wonder how will I ever go back to my old pulsar or any other NON-DUKE machine :P and now for the first time ever, I don't choose shortcuts to my destination, instead the long routes :P who wants to get off this bike.

                                Cheers !! ( Please guide me on point 1 or add any useful info about for the same )
                                Last edited by dukist; 02-08-2014, 10:50 PM.
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