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**livingdead** · 07-17-2014, 11:16 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Pizzaboi View Post

I did but i had a bad experience, I'm not sure if it was a one off issue or if this is something that happens with them a lot. The remap does help quite a bit though, improved mileage and a higher top speed as well, there was a huge torque dump at 4-5k rpm which was super fun in the city.

Right now I'm back to stock and I'm instead playing around with the cams and timing.

I tried the initial piggybacks from powertornics in 2012 and felt the engine was a lot smoother on them, I have heard that they have made quite a few tweaks on them since then, a friend of mine is currently using it on his 390 and it makes a big difference especially in the city.

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I use adjustable Titax levers for the both the front brake and the clutch, worth the investment. The ones sold in India are overpriced, get them imported. The levers for the Duke 690 are a direct for the 200 &390

Thank you

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**road_ripper** · 07-17-2014, 05:01 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Mohit 135

how big eyes do you need to read that you posted a link of motorbeam and you yourself is calling it motoroids. Grow up and understand a simple difference between two publications. Both are poles apart in terms of their material and stuff they do

motoroids is piece of junk who copies everything from motorbeam in the first place. I find this frustrating every single time

Woah, cool down and watch your tone mate. Grow up?? I can see how grown up you are with signature like Proud road racer. Agreed it was a typo from my side, but all I was trying to do was helping him decide between powertronic and remap option. Why do you find it so offensive? are you Mohit from motorbeam?

**Pizzaboi** · 07-18-2014, 11:02 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Well that escalated quickly :P

**Arvind95** · 07-18-2014, 02:56 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

My duke 200 ran around 2500kms. My engine sound has changed so much.That refined stock sound is not there anymore...I'm taking it to the SVC anyways, I just want to know if anyone else experienced the same issue when the bike is not even 3 months old.And what might be the problem. I'm pretty sure it's not the volume settings..It sounds like something's loose in the engine or somewhere under the tank. I'm so worried...Please reply ASAP.

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Originally posted by PzZulqar View Post

Help needed!
For the past month or so I have felt a gradual decrease in power of my bike. Recently, vibrations are coming through a lot and the exhaust note is very harsh. Today, I drove my friends duke and the difference in sound, acceleration and feel is huge. Contacted the ASC and they told me that this could be due to a clogged air filter.However even after cleaning the filter there is no difference and I noticed a weird clatter coming from the engine. I am really worried that this might be a major problem. The bike is still under warranty.
Help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. The ASC is 300km away. They send a mechanic when 4-5 bikes have to be serviced.
P.P.S Bike has done ~2300kms.

Bro, I'm facing the exact same problem as yours.I'm taking it to the SVC tomo.was your problem rectified?why is there a clatter sound in the engine? I'm experiencing a slight lag in the performance too..Any help from your side will be greatly appreciated.

**Pizzaboi** · 07-18-2014, 03:27 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Arvind95 View Post

My duke 200 ran around 2500kms. My engine sound has changed so much.That refined stock sound is not there anymore...I'm taking it to the SVC anyways, I just want to know if anyone else experienced the same issue when the bike is not even 3 months old.And what might be the problem. I'm pretty sure it's not the volume settings..It sounds like something's loose in the engine or somewhere under the tank. I'm so worried...Please reply ASAP.

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Bro, I'm facing the exact same problem as yours.I'm taking it to the SVC tomo.was your problem rectified?why is there a clatter sound in the engine? I'm experiencing a slight lag in the performance too..Any help from your side will be greatly appreciated.

There a couple of things that make a KTM a KTM, forget about the way the bike sounded when it was new, it will never sound that way ever again.

Each bike sounds and performs differently, it largely depends on the maintenance and the way way in which the bike was run in.

The weird clatter that you speak of, where is it coming from??? the top or the bottom. If it the top, it is the timing chain, if it the bottom it is the clutch both of which are caused by poor maintenance.

The lag in performance is caused by the snorkel connected to the airbox, remove it, wash it and put it back, or remove it completely, i have cut mine short.

The issues you have mentioned could also be caused by poor fuel quality, get a fuel additive or decarbonizer from either Motul or Shell to clean up the injectors. if the issue still exists, check the voltage being generated by the bike when it is running, it should be between 14-14.5v, if it isn't your stator coil may be failing.

Hope this helps

P.S My bike is about to hit 60k kms and still runs like a dream, even without the minor modifications

**RRB** · 07-18-2014, 05:50 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

A noob doubt.
Is the term chain tension and chain slack are same? The Owners manual says 5 to 7mm tension and I heard usually chain slack for bikes are in the range 20-30 mm. I think then I am riding with a very loose chain. Please someone clarify..

Thanks

**747anwar** · 07-18-2014, 06:32 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hey dukers
I have posted earlier about a duke 200
The heating issue when the headlamp is on,the temp bar goes up as soon as switching on the headlamp and comes down when switching the headlamp off.
Now the asc is saying you will need to change the wiring kit costing 3500
The bike is 18k done and 2yrs all service done from asc only.they have told u won't get warranty on wiring kit

**Doga** · 07-18-2014, 07:02 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 747anwar View Post

Hey dukers
I have posted earlier about a duke 200
The heating issue when the headlamp is on,the temp bar goes up as soon as switching on the headlamp and comes down when switching the headlamp off.
Now the asc is saying you will need to change the wiring kit costing 3500
The bike is 18k done and 2yrs all service done from asc only.they have told u won't get warranty on wiring kit

Hi, I had this issue and the solution has been posted. It's basically grounding issue. It's not a heating issue, as the bike is not overheating, but electrical issue, where the display is being tricked into higher readings because of the faulty ground. There are a few grounds in the Duke electrical system and the one which was at fault in my case was the one inside the headlamp assembly.
The fan is turned on when the temp actually reaches 96 C if I am not wrong, so you'd hav enoticed even if the temp bar reaches high tep region as soon as the lamp is witched on, the fan doesn't start.

I don't think replacement of the electricals is necessary.

**747anwar** · 07-18-2014, 07:05 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Doga View Post

Hi, I had this issue and the solution has been posted. It's basically grounding issue. It's not a heating issue, as the bike is not overheating, but electrical issue, where the display is being tricked into higher readings because of the faulty ground. There are a few grounds in the Duke electrical system and the one which was at fault in my case was the one inside the headlamp assembly.
The fan is turned on when the temp actually reaches 96 C if I am not wrong, so you'd hav enoticed even if the temp bar reaches high tep region as soon as the lamp is witched on, the fan doesn't start.

I don't think replacement of the electricals is necessary.

Can you explain how they sort it out,so that I could tell to asc. The asc guys not much aware of that

**Pizzaboi** · 07-18-2014, 07:13 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by RRB View Post

A noob doubt.
Is the term chain tension and chain slack are same? The Owners manual says 5 to 7mm tension and I heard usually chain slack for bikes are in the range 20-30 mm. I think then I am riding with a very loose chain. Please someone clarify..

Thanks

Slack and Tension are the same thing, adjust the rear monoshock to your weight, this should solve the issue of chain slack to a large extent

**Doga** · 07-18-2014, 07:51 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by 747anwar View Post

Can you explain how they sort it out,so that I could tell to asc. The asc guys not much aware of that

It was a 5 min job. Imagine how it felt after month's of grappling with the issue when the issue was diagnosed and resolved in 5 mins.
I am not sure how the fixed it, but may be you should just tell to check the grounding of the front headlamp. The current is hence is not flowing to the ground and may be leaking(simplistic explanation) to adjoining circuitry causing the reading errpr

**Arvind95** · 07-18-2014, 07:55 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Pizzaboi View Post

There a couple of things that make a KTM a KTM, forget about the way the bike sounded when it was new, it will never sound that way ever again.

Each bike sounds and performs differently, it largely depends on the maintenance and the way way in which the bike was run in.

The weird clatter that you speak of, where is it coming from??? the top or the bottom. If it the top, it is the timing chain, if it the bottom it is the clutch both of which are caused by poor maintenance.

The lag in performance is caused by the snorkel connected to the airbox, remove it, wash it and put it back, or remove it completely, i have cut mine short.

The issues you have mentioned could also be caused by poor fuel quality, get a fuel additive or decarbonizer from either Motul or Shell to clean up the injectors. if the issue still exists, check the voltage being generated by the bike when it is running, it should be between 14-14.5v, if it isn't your stator coil may be failing.

Hope this helps

P.S My bike is about to hit 60k kms and still runs like a dream, even without the minor modifications

I think I've done a nice job on the run in part..I've only went past 100, 2 or 3 times and at all other times I usually go on 60-70 max(highways).My mileage figures are also around 35-40 before 1st service.And coming to the fuel part,I always use premium petrol except for 2 times when I had no other choice but to go for unleaded.So,Fuel could'nt have been a problem. The clatter sound is coming from the top.what is a timing chain?Can I fix that clatter sound?What If I replace the stock filter?.When I switch the ignition off after it gets heated up,It makes a tick-tick sound for some half an hour or something.Is it common?I personally think I'm doing a good job in the maintenance part.I lube the chain every 500 km,I use only premium fuel and what more should I do for my 2 month old Duke? Please Enlighten me if any...

**Pizzaboi** · 07-18-2014, 08:29 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Arvind95 View Post

I think I've done a nice job on the run in part..I've only went past 100, 2 or 3 times and at all other times I usually go on 60-70 max(highways).My mileage figures are also around 35-40 before 1st service.And coming to the fuel part,I always use premium petrol except for 2 times when I had no other choice but to go for unleaded.So,Fuel could'nt have been a problem. The clatter sound is coming from the top.what is a timing chain?Can I fix that clatter sound?What If I replace the stock filter?.When I switch the ignition off after it gets heated up,It makes a tick-tick sound for some half an hour or something.Is it common?I personally think I'm doing a good job in the maintenance part.I lube the chain every 500 km,I use only premium fuel and what more should I do for my 2 month old Duke? Please Enlighten me if any...

Since it is only a 2 month old bike it could be that the shims need replacement rather than a timing issue. The ticking sound is normal, if the radiator fan is running, I would suggest that you do not switch off the bike immediately. You can change the stock filter, I use a K&N- KT1211 which is a stock replacement filter. Also I would suggest switching to a fully synthetic engine oil

**Arvind95** · 07-18-2014, 09:51 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Pizzaboi View Post

Since it is only a 2 month old bike it could be that the shims need replacement rather than a timing issue. The ticking sound is normal, if the radiator fan is running, I would suggest that you do not switch off the bike immediately. You can change the stock filter, I use a K&N- KT1211 which is a stock replacement filter. Also I would suggest switching to a fully synthetic engine oil

Why shims?What makes the shims cause the clatter sound?I'm sorry If I'm bugging you,I'm just curious

And I've been using Motul 7100 fully synthetic oil as adviced by the SVC.

**Pizzaboi** · 07-18-2014, 10:16 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Arvind95 View Post

Why shims?What makes the shims cause the clatter sound?I'm sorry If I'm bugging you,I'm just curious

And I've been using Motul 7100 fully synthetic oil as adviced by the SVC.

The shims help keep the valve clearance within the tolerances. Sometimes to prevent the valves from burning off, they use a slightly smaller shim, as the engine wear continues the clearance increases, the clattering sound is of the valve not seating properly. Replacing the shims is done for free in the SVC and should not take more than 30 min.

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