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  • Re: Battery strength

    Originally posted by thommel View Post
    Hi guys,

    I have a question, I know this may sound a little off but I have this phobia about the battery going low on charge.

    I'd like to know how long it would take for the battery to drain out if I haven't had a ride.

    Not that i'm going to leave her unused for too many days, it's just that it's all rainy and roads are dirty too and I just don't have the mind to take her out on a spin in these conditions.

    I usually take her out only when the weather looks like it's going to hold, so if i am unfortunately unable to make a trip...how long before i should be worried about the battery failing me?

    And also, does the charging happen quickly...as in, can i just start her up and idle for a few minutes and feel comfortable enough to not be worried about the battery?
    There's no indication of the battery level or anything is there?

    Mel

    ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

    Another thing...I've done about 500kms after my first service and I understand that a lubing is good for the chains.

    How difficult is it do get it dony myself? I don't have to clean the chain right? Just spray the lube into the chain?

    Cheers
    Now I am not going to delve into battery nomenclature, but all I can say is the battery on the Duke can drain if not properly looked upon. For example, the battery is poor at withstanding DC load when the bike is off, even such as operating pass light or indicators just in case if need be. Secondly, the battery can drain within a matter of hours, if the ignition is kept on. You might ask well, any vehicle with such attribute would do the same? Perhaps, right, yes, but the battery drains faster using these applications.

    Secondly, a 10 min idle and slight revving up would charge the battery to the extent it is discharged, but a completely discharged battery won't be able to hold the charge, we would need to charge it separately. As the draw from the components is more than the ability of the battery to deliver.

    Bottomline, and also as fellow chums suggested, the bike will crank without a problem after a week (from my experience) but for a month, the jury is out there, some bikes crank up, some bikes don't so it's just a matter of juggling up the facts.

    Chain lubing isn't rocket science. First off get yourself a paddock stand, a well started project is half done, the rest just simply follows.

    Use Kerosene or Diesel or you can use WD40 (costly though) but it cleans like a charm. Wait for 5 to 10 mins for the solvent to sink in, take a fresh piece of waste and wipe the chain cleanly, rotating by hand, wipe it out clean and dry. (I always say only retards use engine power to clean/lube a chain) Apply a fresh coat of chain lube, slowly and steadily like you would do every single link in the chain, this way the lube settles in fast and doesn't get wasted.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • Re: Battery strength

      Originally posted by thommel View Post
      Hi guys,

      I have a question, I know this may sound a little off but I have this phobia about the battery going low on charge.

      I'd like to know how long it would take for the battery to drain out if I haven't had a ride.

      Not that i'm going to leave her unused for too many days, it's just that it's all rainy and roads are dirty too and I just don't have the mind to take her out on a spin in these conditions.

      I usually take her out only when the weather looks like it's going to hold, so if i am unfortunately unable to make a trip...how long before i should be worried about the battery failing me?

      And also, does the charging happen quickly...as in, can i just start her up and idle for a few minutes and feel comfortable enough to not be worried about the battery?
      There's no indication of the battery level or anything is there?

      Mel

      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

      Another thing...I've done about 500kms after my first service and I understand that a lubing is good for the chains.

      How difficult is it do get it dony myself? I don't have to clean the chain right? Just spray the lube into the chain?

      Cheers
      I didn't touch my bike for 2 weeks and nothing happened to it.. the battery was fine and the bike only took a while longer to start than usual.. that's all.. other than that, no problem..

      if your battery is down in the worst case.. take it to your nearest battery shop and charge it up and fit it back and you are ready to go..

      if you want to store it for a month or two, suggest you to fully charge the battery and remove the terminals contact and then separate the battery from the bike and store it in a cool dry clean place with no extreme temperature variations.. then when starting back, just hook up the battery back and start up the bike..

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      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

        Guys please tell me what will be the major difference between buying a Duke 200 2012 model and 2014 model

        I am getting a 2012 model for 70K good condition.
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        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

          Originally posted by alliwanted View Post
          Guys please tell me what will be the major difference between buying a Duke 200 2012 model and 2014 model

          I am getting a 2012 model for 70K good condition.

          Anyone who's been following the Duke would stay away from the earlier batches, it doesn't mean, it's a sweet deal at 70k, but you need to keep in mind the service history, spills if any, I mean there is a whole bunch to it. Bottom line, I would definitely prefer a late 2014 to mid 2015 bike, not any bike before that. Save a little more and get a new one or get a used one, as I suggested. That would be my personal suggestion.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
          The girl said, 'NO!'


          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


          THE END

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          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

            Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
            Anyone who's been following the Duke would stay away from the earlier batches, it doesn't mean, it's a sweet deal at 70k, but you need to keep in mind the service history, spills if any, I mean there is a whole bunch to it. Bottom line, I would definitely prefer a late 2014 to mid 2015 bike, not any bike before that. Save a little more and get a new one or get a used one, as I suggested. That would be my personal suggestion.

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Hmm. That's a very true fact.

            I would be seeing for a 2014 model.

            Will let you know if any update.
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            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

              Originally posted by alliwanted View Post
              Hmm. That's a very true fact.

              I would be seeing for a 2014 model.
              Late 2014 is better. you can decode the vin to find its manufacturing date. don't go by the sale/registration date.
              the late 2014 models (Sep onwards) started coming with a better designed radiator fan and a plastic flap over the rear monoshock.
              I own a Oct 2014 model.

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              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                Originally posted by s1d View Post
                Late 2014 is better. you can decode the vin to find its manufacturing date. don't go by the sale/registration date.
                the late 2014 models (Sep onwards) started coming with a better designed radiator fan and a plastic flap over the rear monoshock.
                I own a Oct 2014 model.


                I am getting a 2014 (feb) 20000kms covered @90K.

                I can negotiate but he won't go far by 5K.

                Engine is in good condition.

                Additional accesories :

                Square projector.
                CNC build radiator grill.
                Custom decal
                Swingarm spools
                Handlebar changed to duke 390 one's
                hand guards added
                Crash guard
                Paddock stand (he is not sure about giving it, still I hope I will get it)


                Regularly serviced. Tires still have enough tread to go 2K kms.

                Average mileage = 35-38kmpl

                Recently changed chain sprocket
                He also changed magnet and coil due to some battery issue.



                Owner is a literate person about motorcycle. He took it to IBW.


                Is it a fair deal? Or should I move to some other.
                Last edited by alliwanted; 10-02-2015, 01:58 AM.
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                • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                  Originally posted by alliwanted View Post
                  I am getting a 2014 (feb) 20000kms covered @90K.

                  I can negotiate but he won't go far by 5K.

                  Is it a fair deal? Or should I move to some other.
                  Sounds like a good deal trying bringing it down through as much as you can.
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                  • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                    Hi folks,

                    Does the Duke have a problem of the sensors misfiring after a wash?
                    I don't do washes at service stations or with any sort of pressure pumps...I just use a good old home water hose with a nozzle that has different spray settings, nothing pressurized.
                    I do take her out on a short spin after a wash down as well just to make sure there's nothing unusual about it.

                    Just wondering if anyone has had any sort of trouble after a wash. I remember reading sometime back about the warning light beaming up after a wash.
                    Is it something that can be avoided?

                    I'd just like to make sure it doesn't happen in the first place rather than figuring out a way around it once it does...

                    Mel

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                    • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                      Originally posted by thommel View Post
                      Hi folks,

                      Does the Duke have a problem of the sensors misfiring after a wash?
                      I don't do washes at service stations or with any sort of pressure pumps...I just use a good old home water hose with a nozzle that has different spray settings, nothing pressurized.
                      I do take her out on a short spin after a wash down as well just to make sure there's nothing unusual about it.

                      Just wondering if anyone has had any sort of trouble after a wash. I remember reading sometime back about the warning light beaming up after a wash.
                      Is it something that can be avoided?

                      I'd just like to make sure it doesn't happen in the first place rather than figuring out a way around it once it does...

                      Mel
                      On my ex-390, while riding hard in rain, the indicators were bonkers, meaning, they used to flash crazy and the console used to faintly light up the flasher sign even though the flashers were off, just a few minutes in sun and the issue just disappeared. And yes since the naked series has all the critical elements exposed, water ingress does cause some trouble to electronics and electrical components. Frequent pressure washing of the bike, in all cases, can, might and will interfere one way or the other, so it's better to use compressed air to blow the air as soon as the bike is washed, that's the reason people use compressed air, to get rid of the water ingress inside sensitive components. It shouldn't be a problem per se, but prevention is better than cure.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                        On my ex-390, while riding hard in rain, the indicators were bonkers, meaning, they used to flash crazy and the console used to faintly light up the flasher sign even though the flashers were off, just a few minutes in sun and the issue just disappeared. And yes since the naked series has all the critical elements exposed, water ingress does cause some trouble to electronics and electrical components. Frequent pressure washing of the bike, in all cases, can, might and will interfere one way or the other, so it's better to use compressed air to blow the air as soon as the bike is washed, that's the reason people use compressed air, to get rid of the water ingress inside sensitive components. It shouldn't be a problem per se, but prevention is better than cure.

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Even one of my friend has 390 and he had the same problem.we cant blame coz the Bajaj quality has always been poor in such cases.after even wash my AS 200 indicators go bizzare.everytime.
                        The switches become not that tactile and indicators sometimes start blinking on its own which is pretty much risky on road .
                        Advice is blow compressed air every time and let it dry on sun for at least 1 hour.that way we can ignore it.I feel bad that Bajaj sometimes compromises a lot on the quality of such things which are very critical.specially on dukes.trust me pulsars haven't got that much problem unlike duke,specially after such washes which shows all sorts of wrong info on the display

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                        • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                          Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                          Even one of my friend has 390 and he had the same problem.we cant blame coz the Bajaj quality has always been poor in such cases.after even wash my AS 200 indicators go bizzare.everytime.
                          The switches become not that tactile and indicators sometimes start blinking on its own which is pretty much risky on road .
                          Advice is blow compressed air every time and let it dry on sun for at least 1 hour.that way we can ignore it.I feel bad that Bajaj sometimes compromises a lot on the quality of such things which are very critical.specially on dukes.trust me pulsars haven't got that much problem unlike duke,specially after such washes which shows all sorts of wrong info on the display
                          I don't think it's an inherent quality problem here, different parts have different tolerance levels (mass produced items will have different tolerance levels) and different parts can handle different types of stress. Water ingress on critical components which are exposed as the bikes get more and more complicated, electrical/electronic items tend to have these issues, especially if they are directly exposed especially the naked bikes like the 200 and the 390, where most of the parts are directly under your left foot, which is clearly visible, and no wonder you have troubles.

                          But hey, at least it gets rectified by itself.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                            Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                            I don't think it's an inherent quality problem here, different parts have different tolerance levels (mass produced items will have different tolerance levels) and different parts can handle different types of stress. Water ingress on critical components which are exposed as the bikes get more and more complicated, electrical/electronic items tend to have these issues, especially if they are directly exposed especially the naked bikes like the 200 and the 390, where most of the parts are directly under your left foot, which is clearly visible, and no wonder you have troubles.

                            But hey, at least it gets rectified by itself.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Agreed but if you scroll up even other user even on a mild wash faces it.the thing Is I haven't seen any other naked bike having the same problems at all(fz etc)

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                            • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                              Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                              Agreed but if you scroll up even other user even on a mild wash faces it.the thing Is I haven't seen any other naked bike having the same problems at all(fz etc)
                              As I said components used, their tolerance levels, where they are positioned (quality differences in assembly line products as received from the supplier) all play a factor that's how it is, unfortunately.

                              But they could have used proper insulation to these components, and that's what's missing.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • Re: KTM 200 Duke

                                Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                                Agreed but if you scroll up even other user even on a mild wash faces it.the thing Is I haven't seen any other naked bike having the same problems at all(fz etc)
                                Ive had it pressure washed a few times at the svc, and we all know they just go all guns blazing.
                                And I never had a problem with any sensor or electricals going bonkers. It all depends on your luck man, almost any vehicle will have some niggles due to water ingress. I've ridden the bike in rains too and parked it under rain a couple of times.. the only issue I have is water entering thru the tiny gap on the rhs between the pillion and rider seat (newer models dont seem to have this gap). This water settles around the battery. I haven't seen many complaints about this (maybe because people hardly look under the seat after a wash/rains). For now I've just stuck a cloth around that area so it absorbs the water and doesn't cause any problems with the battery.

                                If possible have them use the compressed air gun all around the bike especially electrical parts/switches after a wash.

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