Re: KTM 200 Duke

Ok question to the guys here, has anyone faced issues with their throttle bodies 200 & 390, I am talking about those who bought their bikes post Mar 2013.

A few bikes at the SVC all with the same issue, carbon deposits in the throttle bodies... I am beginning to wonder if it is the fuel they use or if it is a change in the throttle body design.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

its probably the fuel quality.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I thought that too but then why hasn't it affected the bikes pre 2013?? We all live in the same cities with the same fuel.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Blocked injectors primarily mean, bad quality fuel, impurities etc and worse adulterated fuel. And yes the fuel pump filter does a really good job of cleaning the muck off. I've seen literally garbage on a Duke 200 fuel pump filter. So mucked up I can't imagine whether it was really fuel used in the first place. But yes, bad fuel not only clogs the injectors, it literally induces more pressure (which we don't want in the first place) in the pump which in turn, weakens the pump and the pump goes kaput sooner than expected.

There haven't been any throttle body change in the Duke if my memory serves me true (though I could be wrong).

Cheers!
VJ

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Actually, 3 390s and 1 200 came in for throttle body change in one month, this is what prompted me to ask the question.

My bike is an old one, from the first lot and it has run trouble free for the most part.

BTW update from my last post 250kms left to hit 60,000kms

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Perhaps their Duke 390s "did" indeed have an issue with fuel feed, or the pump itself, but let's leave that to speculation. Because lots should be taken into consideration when it comes to throttle body replacement. But it's still quite a news to see 3 390s having to "replace" their throttle bodies. I hope they all ain't brand new with less than 2k on the odo. Did you happen to inspect that by any chance?

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

No idea.. since you mentioned carbon deposits, i had posted the video in which the guy had a similar issue.
If its a design fault with the throttle body, then ktm should be recalling the affected batch.
Have you heard what ktm had to say on this issue ? Was it replaced under warranty for the affected bikes ?
I still think its fuel related.. we can go on speculating on this maybe those guys used some additives etc.. or sometimes just one tankful of really bad fuel could cause sufficient mischief.. do lets know if you find out what ktm had to say on this.
btw.. towards the end of the video.. did you see what those idiots were doing I think i am going to email ktm this clip.

PS: anyone facing weird webpage rendering on xbhp after updating to firefox 31 ? I just updated FF today and some links and posts appear like they are splattered all over the page with no uniformity.

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I'm on Aurora, been facing the same issue for the past week

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Can't call them brand new, but they all had less than 8k on the odo, one 390 had just over 7500kms on the odo and that was the one with the most miles on it. All 3 bikes were bought around the same time, judging from the service books. I inspected the throttle bodies of the 390s, the 200 had just come in and they were dismantling it, so I didn't get a chance to look at it. For one they just cleaned it by scrubbing it with some steel wool, the other was junked and a replacement throttle body was ordered. Both of them looked similar with the same brownish deposits. They said it was bad fuel, pretty much the same explanation from the video but I somehow feel that isn't the case.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

What is the warranty on Fork Seals??
Mine broke for the first time after 1 year and 14000kms on the left fork..

Re: KTM 200 Duke

No warranty on Fork Seals. It goes kaput because of normal wear and tear. General practice is to change both sides seals along with fork oil.

Cheerz!!

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But the right one was replaced under warranty. I just had to pay for the Fork oil and the rubber Fork protector..

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Faulty seal / damaged fork will be replaced under warranty. But, i doubt if they will replace it now after covering 14k kms now without warranty.

Cheerz!!

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hello friends,

This is my first post and I’m bit worried at the moment. I'm from Trivandrum, my ride (duke 200) is 7 months old and covered 9.9K kilometers. Recently I had an issue with magnetic coil (starter plate) for the ride and hence the KTM SVC team replaced the same along with rectifier. Yesterday I noticed that the engine oil is spitting from the left side of portion. The engine oil level is still showing fine and no low level oil warning has displayed till now.

I believe the issue started after changing the above mentioned magnetic coil, I can be wrong also (just a guess). At this point I would like to know whether this is a critical issue as its related with engine oil. The problem is that the SVC centre might be closed today as its Ramzan holidays.
Some said its something related with packing (I'm a newbie and also I’m not mechanically good).

If the above is correct? Do they need to open the engine and all in order to rectify this. I have heard that opening Engine is not good at all.
One more doubt, in case if oil warning appeared during the ride (while taking to SVC or something) what kind of precautions should be taken?

Pics are attached along with this thread, have a look into it
As I said I’m bit worried.. Please key in your valuable suggestions so that I can try to keep calm till I take the ride to SVC.

Thank you

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Nothing to worry much, just keep an eye on the oil level. If it drops below recommended then just top it up (which is very unlikely to happen soon)
The gasket (locally called 'packing') needs to be replaced, and it only requires opening the crankcase side cover and not the entire 'engine')
It's a 20 min job and the gasket probably costs less than 50rs, but you may need to buy new engine oil which will put a dent in your pocket (unless u want to drain the existing oil in to a clean container and reuse it after fixing the new gasket)
Do get it fixed at the svc for a peace of mind

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Thanks for the update Brother,


I just contacted the KTM SVC team and informed them the same. And booked for a complete maintenance of the ride as it is about to cover 10k kilometres. Its scheduled for this 30th, hope nothing critical will come in between. In this case, as updated I will inform them the same and go for a new engine oil.


"One more concern as the ride is about to complete 10k kilometres do I need to check/replace any other parts?"


They have changed the oil and fuel filters during second maintenance. Also I'm thinking aout flushing the coolant completely and refill.
Is it required at this period?


Thanks in advance