Re: KTM 200 Duke

I have seen Abhishek bringing and installing a BMC sometime back on a customers duke myself. The filter was worth 5K or something IIRC

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I enquired at the Indranagar/Domlur service station and was told that bar end sliders cannot be added to D200 as the inside of the bar does not have threadings (unlike D390 or Pulsars). Is this true? Does this mean that sliders cannot be installed without any modifications to the handle bar?

Aside: wanted to purchase an extra set of clutch & acc cables and the showroom denied to sell 'em to me telling Bajaj has issued an order to stop sale of spares over the counter. I wrote to KTM India & they responsded stating no such order has been issued & that spares can be purchased. Bajaj showroom junta

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Well if that is the case get yourself a 390 handle bar, they are not very expensive.
If you can kindly share why exactly are you looking for bar end weights? Is it because of aesthetics or vibes? The latter is not much of an issue with the duke 200.
And I am still not sure if the duke 200 bar cannot accomodate the bar ends, confirm it. How do they fit aftermarket bar ends then? May be others can throw some light on this.


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Re: KTM 200 Duke

It would be really cool if big brands like bmc starts manufacturing intake systems for our bikes. I mean complete cold aur intake systems like the ones they manufacture for cars.
Is there already any such product in the market?

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Re: KTM 200 Duke

The normal range of adjustment a stock ECU can auto tune on the run is upto 10 % deviation from stock...whenever the accelerator is increased, the ECU will go into Open Loop mode to allow for higher injector output for acceleration. Moment the engine more or less settles to a steady run, the ECU will switch to closed loop..so in city running condition the ECU will most of the time be in open loop only....
The Factory set Default values in The ECU MAP is essential to guarantee a reliable map to fall back on should the re-mapping show any adverse results...in which case disconnecting battery for 5 minutes will reset ECU to Factory Default values...
If the base Map it self is changed , then the type of change ,ie., Fueling,Ignition timing etc.,must be known to recover the ECU from any difficult condition....
Hence clarification on the ECU re-mapping must be attained from the modifier, for continued reliability and safety....

Re: KTM 200 Duke

People here may remember, I have been complaining of a hot running engine for quite sometime now. Initially I suspected the radiator is at fault or may be the fan doesn't turn on when it should. But a recent trip to the svc and use of the diagnostic tool revealed that the fan turns on at exactly the right temp everytime(I guess it's 96 C) and brings the temp down. The coolant doesn't seem to have changed colour and is in adequate quantity , has never overflown and the oil was changed recently too(also when it was changed the drained oil didn't seem unusually coloured).
But the bike does feel very hot and sometimes even while doing good speeds. The temp bar doesn't come down less than 2 bars below the max even when doing 100 kmph and stays at less than 1 bar most of the times with routine (although very brief) excursions into the high range or at the max normal level. Riding in rain, obviously helps to keep it sane and the temp bar is 3-4 notches down in, but I am talking of dry conditions here.

No loss of power at any revs has been felt. But yeah a it of difficulty to climb above 120-125 at times. But not much I think as I do reach momentary 130s routinely.

But it coughs at low revs and especially audible when I downshift from say 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd. This coughing has been for some time now (even before the heating became alarming). but of late has become pronounced.
Also recently I have noticed that while idling the engine sometimes misses a beat, as in a momentary hiccup and then again the regular beating.
Also there was this one time 2 days back I twisted the throttle and there was this huge lag in power delivery for say 1 sec and things became normal again.

I looked up the net and found that all these symptoms point the engine being fed lean-mixture. Now since this is not a carb bike, the lean mixture invariably means, clogged injector or a clogged fuel filter, clogged/damaged/expired fuel pump filter, water/dirt in the tank(also this is exacerbated when the tank has less fuel, and I have been not been routinely getting tankfulls , lean times you see for me too )which all results in less fuel in the mix resulting in a lean mixture.

So guys do you think my reasoning is correct here or there are other factors which I might be missing here ?
The svc guys, as usual, refuse to look into the matter diligently. The fan turns on at the designated temp and the bike is running, hence everything is fine. But they don't bother about the fact that the rate of heating is steep and that after the fan turns on it takes unusually long for the temp to come down, even while idling .

Please help me guys

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Your assumption might be right. A hot engine is the result of a lean mixture.
Coming to the supposed clogged fuel pump filter, where do you fill your petrol?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

An Indian Oil pump(not coco) near my place. I used to go for power/speed earlier. Not any more

Re: KTM 200 Duke

If the reason was a clogged fuel pump filter, it could be because there was a considerable amount of dirt which came with the petrol. If you fill petrol right after the underground tanks in a bunk are refilled, all the dirt suspended at the bottom of the tank would get recirculated and end up in our tanks.
Try shell next time, they keep their tanks and the dispensers in tip-top condition.
This was exactly what happened to a friend of mine. A bit of cleaning in the right places and everything was back to normal. The problem never reappeared after he began using shell petrol.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Well, I was thinking of any other possible cause. Although most probably its because of the reasons you quoted above but what if the temp sensor itself is not working properly?
I am thinking like this because you have been complaining about heating issues for quite some time now and before these problems were not noticed. They might have creeped in later adding to the heating problem. I guess the temp sensor might be feeding incorrect data to the ecu because of which the fan is coming into effect much later than it should while still showing all is good to the diagnostic tool.

I dunno if its causing the issue or not, just another guess I believe.

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Re: KTM 200 Duke

I was facing the same issue after odd 2900 kms after changing the oil & oil filter at the 1st service.

Changed the oil & oil filter and "aal izz well" now.
My bike was running on a semi-synthetic Motul 5100(as I planned not to switch to 100% synthetic till 2nd service) so 2900 kms was a fair enough running.
Oil changed to the same Motul 5100, but it did solve the above mentioned issue.

Switching to 7100 or 300V would make the bike run much cooler and smooth. (but initially feeding some minerals before closing the room to set)

Also, we are talking about the temperature of the engine, so lean mixture of petrol can't be an issue as the bike is FI and has a fuel filter.
Fuel combustion happens at all temperatures(when you start the bike or maxing it at 130) but what changes is the temperature and viscosity of oil (15W50)
So these heating problems usually occur(as you've checked all the other possible explanations) due to expired engine oil.

In my case, I knew what I was getting into when chose Motul5100 over the recommended Motul7100(svc guys were a bit reluctant though), it wears out faster than the synthetic.(strict no-no to the BajaDTSi10000)

Try changing the engine oil and filter(a machine wouldn't mind a new fluid)

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys a query.. There are many power parts mentioned for D200 on the KTM website.. So my question is that how many of them are really available in the market..? like the X-ring or the akrapovic slip-on..?

also if possible, can you Duke owners answer my question on this thread: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/what-bik...able-me-4.html
Thanks

Re: KTM 200 Duke

The akrapovic is not available as of now(I was informed that its due to homologation issue), I so wanted one badly. The x-ring should be available now as the 390 comes factory fitted with x-ring chain. The power parts sprockets are not available. Rest of the parts should be available though.


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Re: KTM 200 Duke

Thanks for the reply mate..
My next bike would be a Duke.. Not now, but preety soon.. Thats why all these questions..

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I understand buddy, I am still planning on what all I am going to plonk on the 390 and even I am full of questions on availability or if some part would fit or not or may be what would be the impact on performance etc.



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