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**Nithesh** · 07-06-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post

And guys, I need feedback on this part....

Smooth acceleration, let the rpm rise till 5k, and upshift. Downshift to reduce speed. Is this way of running-in correct??

Are you quoting this from ur Manual? IF not don't try it. Your engine will suffer in the long run. It will then take more time for ur engine to get used to higher rpms(above 5k) if you keep riding it below 5k.
For 250R's it was only recommended to revv gradually and avoid sudden acceleration/braking until first service or 1000kms(to be on safe side)

IF there is no mention of How to run-in in ur manual, do not try any run-in method. Ride normally like you would but avoid sudden acc/deceleration

**neevarp16** · 07-06-2012, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

Are you quoting this from ur Manual? IF not don't try it. Your engine will suffer in the long run. It will then take more time for ur engine to get used to higher rpms(above 5k) if you keep riding it below 5k.
For 250R's it was only recommended to revv gradually and avoid sudden acceleration/braking until first service or 1000kms(to be on safe side)

IF there is no mention of How to run-in in ur manual, do not try any run-in method. Ride normally like you would but avoid sudden acc/deceleration

Just a para in manual regarding run-in. It goes like,
"Help assure future reliability and to getting better performance by paying attention to how you ride for first 500 kms. During this period, avoid full throttle starts and sudden acceleration"

So, that means I can very well take her still further up the rev range "smoothly"??
And also, what is the best rev range to shift up, considering the 150r's engine?? I seriously don't have any idea, asked this as your experience may have some answer!!

**mulli84** · 07-06-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post

Just a para in manual regarding run-in. It goes like,
"Help assure future reliability and to getting better performance by paying attention to how you ride for first 500 kms. During this period, avoid full throttle starts and sudden acceleration"

So, that means I can very well take her still further up the rev range "smoothly"??
And also, what is the best rev range to shift up, considering the 150r's engine?? I seriously don't have any idea, asked this as your experience may have some answer!!

Around 5k, I found the shift is ok. But I tested it only in 3rd gear. Yesterday,while driving due to some stupid car, I was raged a lil bit and overtook the car.Took the bike to 6k and above,but gradually. For the first time, I heard the awesome grunt of the engine.

**neevarp16** · 07-06-2012, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by mulli84 View Post

For the first time, I heard the awesome grunt of the engine.

Now, that's really tempting!!

**TeeJayy** · 07-06-2012, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post

And also, what is the best rev range to shift up,

If you are looking for maximum performance, you should make sure that the RPM lies in the max power band.

For e.g. my R15V2 produces max torque @ 17bhp at 8500k RPM. I upshift at such RPM range that after the shift the RPM remains around 8k - 9k RPM

**neevarp16** · 07-06-2012, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by TeeJayy View Post

If you are looking for maximum performance, you should make sure that the RPM lies in the max power band.

I know what yu said about very well., but the conversation here was about breaking-in an engine, and my baby is just a day old!!

and me taking her above 8.5k for a shift

... I would never ever do it, if it would be even for a new choice!!

**Nithesh** · 07-06-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post

Just a para in manual regarding run-in. It goes like,
"Help assure future reliability and to getting better performance by paying attention to how you ride for first 500 kms. During this period, avoid full throttle starts and sudden acceleration"

So, that means I can very well take her still further up the rev range "smoothly"??
And also, what is the best rev range to shift up, considering the 150r's engine?? I seriously don't have any idea, asked this as your experience may have some answer!!

You would be surprised if i told you that the bike can be revved all the way to the top of the rpm wherever it cuts off but "GRADUALLY". "Do not Redline" it though. So do not limit ur bike to 5k because post first service when you start to take it to higher rpms, it will tend to be a slouch when you try to revv past 5k and you will notice that it will take more time for the engine to get used to higher rpms to attain higher speeds.

There is no optimum shift rpm for the bike but the only suggestion is to NOT lug the bike(i.e., riding at 3k rpm or below in higher gears) which will damage ur engine in the long run. To identify if you are lugging the engine, you will hear a faint knocking sound whenever ur in a higher gear and moving in low rpms(below 3-4k)
So avoid it and just ride it like you would normally but do not accelerate/decelerate in a hurry. Just vary it gradually.

**neevarp16** · 07-06-2012, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

You would be surprised if i told you that the bike can be revved all the way to the top of the rpm wherever it cuts off but "GRADUALLY". "Do not Redline" it though. So do not limit ur bike to 5k because post first service when you start to take it to higher rpms, it will tend to be a slouch when you try to revv past 5k and you will notice that it will take more time for the engine to get used to higher rpms to attain higher speeds.

There is no optimum shift rpm for the bike but the only suggestion is to NOT lug the bike(i.e., riding at 3k rpm or below in higher gears) which will damage ur engine in the long run. To identify if you are lugging the engine, you will hear a faint knocking sound whenever ur in a higher gear and moving in low rpms(below 3-4k)

Thanks for the note bro!

Will sure take care of it while riding, and about lugging, have read it at a lot of posts and am conscious on avoiding it.!

**mulli84** · 07-06-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by neevarp16 View Post

Thanks for the note bro!

Will sure take care of it while riding, and about lugging, have read it at a lot of posts and am conscious on avoiding it.!

Keep the bike in 4 to 5k mostly. Occasionally do some 6k. An engine should be trained to work at all speeds. Or else when u need the power it wont be there. Also you should never ride in a particular speed all times. Vary the speeds a lot. After 1000km, I will push the engine harder.

**Nithesh** · 07-06-2012, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by mulli84 View Post

Keep the bike in 4 to 5k mostly..

You do not want him or anyone esle to do that on a DOHC high revving bike.
DOHC works best when revved harder. The engine is built to be revved harder. Your motoman's technique of limiting the bike to a certain rpm does not help here.
This is exactly the reason why your manual has no mention of how to run-in the engine. Your bike makes peak power at higher rpms compared to SOHC and given that ur bike comes to life only past 7k rpm, maintaining 4-5k is not just difficult, but unnecessary aswell.

**mulli84** · 07-06-2012, 10:06 PM

My First Service bill:

Chain lube - 140
Engine Oil - 503.80(shud be mineral oil I think)
Miscellaneous - 45
Teflon Coat - 450
Taxes - 141
Labor is 713.
Grand Total paid = 1217.

I was in a hurry as I was to collect my salary today after the service. SO I just paid the bill and left.

**mulli84** · 07-06-2012, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

You do not want him or anyone esle to do that on a DOHC high revving bike.
DOHC works best when revved harder. The engine is built to be revved harder. Your motoman's technique of limiting the bike to a certain rpm does not help here.
This is exactly the reason why your manual has no mention of how to run-in the engine. Your bike makes peak power at higher rpms compared to SOHC and given that ur bike comes to life only past 7k rpm, maintaining 4-5k is not just difficult, but unnecessary aswell.

Yea I like to rev harder too. But its my opinion and I will be maintaining this only for the first 1000km. After this Ill change.

**neevarp16** · 07-06-2012, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

You do not want him or anyone esle to do that on a DOHC high revving bike.

My style of riding is shifting at ~5k and am taking her till 7k rpm, when i feel there is no need of shifting up, only at top 3 gears. So, think it'll help her break-in normally. Planning to change the oil once odo reaches 100kms. 60 now.

EDIT: My bad, I still s*ck with maths!

**nishit** · 07-06-2012, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by mulli84 View Post

My First Service bill:

Chain lube - 140
Engine Oil - 503.80(shud be mineral oil I think)
Miscellaneous - 45
Teflon Coat - 450
Taxes - 141
Labor is 713.
Grand Total paid = 1217.

I was in a hurry as I was to collect my salary today after the service. SO I just paid the bill and left.

I serviced in didar motors..no miscellaneous

, chain lub free,labour free, teflon coat 350rs and rest was same!!!.

**mulli84** · 07-06-2012, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by nishit View Post

I serviced in didar motors..no miscellaneous

, chain lub free,labour free, teflon coat 350rs and rest was same!!!.

The service centre is new and has ample space for servicing.Thats one plus. And I had a chance to see a CB1000R waiting for delivery. Wow its biggg.

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